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i'm not sure why i'm bothering here, but what exactly are you basing this assumption on?

Tories like being in power. This is pretty basic stuff. Why on earth would they vote themselves out to change the leader when they can get the same result without a general election.

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Putting aside the scaremongering there's nothing in there that frightens me :)

CT, putting aside everything else, that last one from the economist. How can that bit about the single market not frighten you? Norway pay 90% of what we do per head for access to a market in which they have no say concerning it's running. That's what we're hoping for as a best case scenario for brexit. And it's fucking terrible. If they make an example of us, which they will have to do, it'll be even worse.

 

They will hurt us. German cars are not as important to Germany as the EU. It is not going to let the EU die, and so it will, absolutely, rightly, and justifiably, kick the fuck out of us. If they don't, if they make leaving look easy, the whole thing will collapse along with 28 other economies. Why would they risk that, they're nowhere near as stupid as we apparently are.

 

Mental stuff, this.

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Putting aside the scaremongering there's nothing in there that frightens me :)

Of course there isn't, because you don't give a shit about anyone else. This will be the first time I have ever gone to the polls genuinely scared about the outcome. A leave result will have a massive negative effect on so many people and their jobs (including my own) while the only positive is that a lot of cunts can go to sleep a bit happier that there won't be quite so many of those filthy immigrants coming in.

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Tories like being in power. This is pretty basic stuff. Why on earth would they vote themselves out to change the leader when they can get the same result without a general election.

 

you think the whole party are now going to just fall in line under a new eurosceptic leadership?

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CT, putting aside everything else, that last one from the economist. How can that bit about the single market not frighten you? Norway pay 90% of what we do per head for access to a market in which they have no say concerning it's running. That's what we're hoping for as a best case scenario for brexit. And it's fucking terrible. If they make an example of us, which they will have to do, it'll be even worse.

 

They will hurt us. German cars are not as important to Germany as the EU. It is not going to let the EU die, and so it will, absolutely, rightly, and justifiably, kick the fuck out of us. If they don't, if they make leaving look easy, the whole thing will collapse along with 28 other economies. Why would they risk that, they're nowhere near as stupid as we apparently are.

 

Mental stuff, this.

 

it will not be as straightforward as the brexiteers would have us believe. you're absolutely right that they'll make sure it;s as difficult as possible for us because they're desperate to keep the whole EU together and they won;t want other countries looking at us and thinking we got an easy pass out of the whole thing.

 

winter is coming, basically.

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So has CT has went from being undecided to pro-leave thus defying the best PM in his lifetime? Must have took some serious and sobering evidence for that swing to take effect.

 

Wow. Heady times.

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Got that link for me yet CT? Or is it just something you heard on facebook (the only place I could find it using Google).

Sorry mate. I'll dig it out for you when I get back in......... From the pub :lol:

 

Ignore my drunk posts.

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:lol: it was obvious he was going to vote leave from the start. Amazing anyone can dismiss the stuff from that Economist quote as scaremongering. And it's not just the most respected financial media organisations in the world warning of the dangers. We're talking about several respected financial think tanks, the IMF, the Bank of fucking England, ALL spelling out the potential shit storm ahead of us.

 

But fuck all that as long as no more darkies move to Boldon.

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And the international community are watching this in the same way we're watching the Trump farce unfold in the U.S. Check that Washington Post oped I posted a few pages back.

 

Troubling times

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:lol: it was obvious he was going to vote leave from the start. Amazing anyone can dismiss the stuff from that Economist quote as scaremongering. And it's not just the most respected financial media organisations in the world warning of the dangers. We're talking about several respected financial think tanks, the IMF, the Bank of fucking England, ALL spelling out the potential shit storm ahead of us.

 

But fuck all that as long as no more darkies move to Boldon.

Your wrong about the Bank of England. They're predicting the mildest recession in 60 years apparently. Seems odd thing to say, but facebook says so.

 

I've noticed its typical of Brexiters to cherry pick facts or just make them up completely. Literally none of their claims are properly referenced. But even when their lies are exposed as factually untrue (e.g. 350 million), they just repeat them until it's somehow a truth.

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The BOE haven't made any projections for a post-Brexit world. Their forecasting is all based on the status quo. I know this cos it's part of my job to review the MPC minutes and read their quarterly inflation report. They have said that Brexit poses domestic and global risks though, but that's as far as they've gone.

 

In other words, CT is wrong again.

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Got that link for me yet CT? Or is it just something you heard on facebook (the only place I could find it using Google).

Ok, can't find the original article but this covers it. It was the treasures own "worst case scenario" not the Bank of England.

 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/23/eu-facts-would-a-vote-to-leave-the-eu-really-plunge-britain-into/

 

Don't forget to read the full article rather than your usual skim ;)

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Your wrong about the Bank of England. They're predicting the mildest recession in 60 years apparently. Seems odd thing to say, but facebook says so.

 

I've noticed its typical of Brexiters to cherry pick facts or just make them up completely. Literally none of their claims are properly referenced. But even when their lies are exposed as factually untrue (e.g. 350 million), they just repeat them until it's somehow a truth.

Carney is on record saying Brexit is likely to lead to a recession. This from last month:

 

"Brexit, to my mind, would have a material impact on growth and inflation. It would be likely to have a negative impact in the short term."

 

The brexiters hate the fact he got involved

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