henda11 0 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Just seen the trailer for it, and it isn't really something that interests me. But knowing that this film is coming out it has made me wonder a little. They decide not release pictures of his body etc because it could piss of all these terrorists and his followers etc, but they allow this film to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 They're constantly pissed off. Don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29730 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 How exactly could they ban the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I've watched it. It was oddly anti-climactic. Decent enough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 The new defence from Bigelow is that she isn't saying they would not have found bin laden without torture. Â They didn't you silly bint. That's the problem with your "torture works" advert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Have you seen it? I fail to see how it's an advert for terrorism at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Have you seen it? I fail to see how it's an advert for terrorism at all. Â Torture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6875 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Do we really believe he's dead like? Pro US propaganda for the thick American masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Do we really believe he's dead like? Pro US propaganda for the thick American masses  It's Bigelow's forte.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Torture  Who is this fukin woman anyway? Another illuminati plant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1208 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think her films have went right downhill since Strange Days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013  Torture  Sorry that's what I meant. It's not an advert for torture at all imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Sorry that's what I meant. It's not an advert for torture at all imo. Â I think the torturers are the good guys doing whatever it takes to get the bad guys. Â At the end of the film you are supposed to cheer because they got Bin Laden, irrespective of what went before, including torture. Â Is any action taken to discipline the torturers? Do they end up on war crimes charges? Or the people that authorised torture? Is there an epilogue where the victims of torture sue the US government and get compensation. Or are those involved in torture the heroes of the day and the victims an irrelevance? Â The fact that nothing whatsoever that led to Bin Ladens capture was gained from torture is (at best) immaterial to the film. Some would say the film suggests torture DID reveal what they were missing....falsely. Either way, it's seen as just another avenue that was taken when all options were explored, irrespective of criminality. There is no condemnation of that. It's all deemed acceptable. Â A CIA advert for war crimes, with close working relationships between the producers and the highest levels of intelligence, who reveled secrets with a higher level off classification than anything Bradley Manning revealed. He sits in a cell for years awaiting a trial followed by life imprisonment or death...they get Oscar nominations. Â I'll watch it soon. Got it in my film directory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I read all that and you haven't even seen it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I read all that and you haven't even seen it?!  But I've read enough about the film to know I am right  Perhaps I'll watch it and be surprised at what a damning indictment of torture it is. How wrong all the writers I respect most were. With those involved in prisoner abuse or turning a blind eye to it made to look particularly evil. I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Well I'd definitely want to see it before being so certain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Having seen it, can you say where the film will confound my pre-conceived notions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It mightn't given you've already made your mind up. Â At no point did it strike me as an advert for torture. It depicts torture, that's all. I don't really think it's my job to tell you why it isn't, it's your job to watch it and make your own mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32005 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Are there any SO-CALLED namby Pambys in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It mightn't given you've already made your mind up. Â At no point did it strike me as an advert for torture. It depicts torture, that's all. I don't really think it's my job to tell you why it isn't, it's your job to watch it and make your own mind up. Â If a film depicts the hero drinking a Pepsi, without commenting on the Pepsi either way...it's an advert for Pepsi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43116 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Watch the film. Â I saw this amazing advert for shooting gas tanks in shark's mouths as an effective means of shark disposal recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21504 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4510 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Just watched it. Really good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41476 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 he dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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