BigWalrus 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Aye, I'm not suggesting that his degree means he should be a better player, I was just supporting what was said above about him being educated / intelligent. Some of the things he does on the pitch make him look incredibly stupid. However, I wonder if a lot of it is just down to game time, as he went to Man Utd as a youngester and rarely played. He may have benefitted from playing more regularly at a younger age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Onuoha has A levels and probbly would have ended up with decent degree, but tought it would be a good idea to join Sunderland then QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Onuoha has A levels and probbly would have ended up with decent degree, but tought it would be a good idea to join Sunderland then QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I'm willing to bet anybody on this board would give up any qualifications to play in the premier league for any team that would have them. Or the championship. Or the... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Fucking Hell sniffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4095 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Picking out a pass or decision making in football has got more to do with instinct than intelligence to be honest. All about awareness and vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Depends how you define intelligence. To me, a large part of intelligence is about self-awareness. You are aware of how quick you are, how far you can stretch, how well timed a tackle is, how hard you have to hit a shot, how heavy to weight a pass. This is all picked up by repetition and by learning. Nobody can do these things when they're born, they have to learn them and develop the strength and ability to be able to do it consistently. There's nothing instinctive or natural about playing football. Awareness and vision develops as a result of learning what your team mates are capable of and learning what sort of pass suits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Nobody can do these things when they're born I'd bet you Thiago could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'd bet you Thiago could. Well I bet he learned it in the womb, doing keepups with the slack on the umbilical cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4676 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Superb find this fella. Seems to be getting compared a lot to Jonas but for me he is so much more than that. Must be one if the fittest players at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMoUsE 0 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Aye fair play, offers the same defensively but better going forward. Great value for 500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Didier drogba would fit that mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 He's already proved more than value for money. His graft is excellent but he's also genuine goal threat (which is where there's a difference to Jonas, although tbf to Jonas, Gouff plays more advanced). We should be looking fill out the squad of more players like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21768 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 pacey workhorse. every premier league team needs em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30169 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Lovenkrands+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmondTUTU 0 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 He's more than a lovenkrands plus. 750,000 dollars too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 He's already proved more than value for money. His graft is excellent but he's also genuine goal threat (which is where there's a difference to Jonas, although tbf to Jonas, Gouff plays more advanced). We should be looking fill out the squad of more players like him. His scoring record isn't great. Grafts his arse off, which is good to have in the team in the absence of Jonas though. He does offer more to the team as well in terms of meaningful attacking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 His scoring record isn't great. Grafts his arse off, which is good to have in the team in the absence of Jonas though. He does offer more to the team as well in terms of meaningful attacking play. Scores more than Jonas though which was the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Nowt like Jonas defensively. No idea where that one came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMoUsE 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 He does the same job defensively as jonas but in a different way. Jonas plays so deep it invites their fullback higher. Gouff drops deep when necessary but generally starts higher and busts a gut to get back, meaning the opposing fullback starts alot deeper and is less of a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 5 goals in 25 games for Gouffran? How many assists? How many goals did Ba get playing out wide for us? 10 goals in 180 games for Jonas? How many assists? Prefer Gouffran as a player and he seems to be more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 He's a more creative and productive version of Jonas, just as powder puff in the tackle as him, but a much better option out there. I'm sorry, but I don't subscribe to the Jonas is a good defender stuff either. He works hard granted, but he's weak as piss in the tackle. Which is why Gouffran should start ahead of him, he offers no more than Jonas defensively but at least he creates stuff. Jonas, nice guy, grafter, great squad player, but not a starter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldstott 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 He works hard granted, but he's weak as piss in the tackle. The tackle that Gouffran made that led to the goal on Sunday was a joke. No central midfielder should be losing that challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 5 goals in 25 games for Gouffran? How many assists? How many goals did Ba get playing out wide for us? 10 goals in 180 games for Jonas? How many assists? Prefer Gouffran as a player and he seems to be more effective. Moneyball at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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