Inochi 0 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I would imagine that, if it's true (and it's been doing the rounds as a rumour for a while), then it'll Richards instead of Williamson or Taylor playing alongside Colo. Yeah, it seems that way. I can't even remember the last time he played at centre half. We'll be signing him on the basis that he's strong. That's it. We're completely ignoring the fact that Colo is on the decline, and we'd then have no long term replacement or backup. If anyone was to leave, it had to be Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yeah, it seems that way. I can't even remember the last time he played at centre half. We'll be signing him on the basis that he's strong. That's it. We're completely ignoring the fact that Colo is on the decline, and we'd then have no long term replacement or backup. If anyone was to leave, it had to be Taylor. I agree on all counts. I thought Williamson* and Yangwa-Mbiwa looked good when they played together. Obvious point to make but centre-back play is all about forming a partnership / understanding. If Richards were to come in and then Colo were to get injured then you'd have no one comfortable playing more as a sweeper / reading the game. *Not suggesting he should be the long-term answer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'm guessing the lad from Forest is probably being seen as the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Richards is canny, but he suffers from the same ailments Mbiwa does. Occasionally rash, often positionally unaware, etc. The kind of issues that are cured only by playing consistently alongside a more experienced quality partner. They've both been pushed to fullback because they're not quite ready for centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Id hazard that at 26 if Richards isn't ready for centre half its unlikely he ever will be. At fullback he's just as bad, he's not got a look in at national level since Croatia beat England at Wembley putting them out of Euro 2008.Richards is still looking for Luka Modric now, he spent the whole night completely the wrong side of his man. Avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Id hazard that at 26 if Richards isn't ready for centre half its unlikely he ever will be. At fullback he's just as bad, he's not got a look in at national level since Croatia beat England at Wembley putting them out of Euro 2008.Richards is still looking for Luka Modric now, he spent the whole night completely the wrong side of his man. Avoid. I'd agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'd say a CB's best years are generally between 28-32 and the reason for that is that is because that's when their mature head overlaps with being at their peak physically. They reach their physical peak earlier though. I think Colo needs a physical partner over a footballing one, and Richards is preferable in that sense to anyone we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 5 hours ago by Jim Robertson French media are reporting that Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa’s nightmare stay at Newcastle could now finally be over, at least in the short-term. It is reported that Mapou has agreed the details of am initial season long loan deal with Marseille, including wages, with it now awaiting Newcastle United giving the go ahead to the deal. The 25 year old still has four years left on his United contract and has been given next to no chance at centre-back by Alan Pardew. Foot Mercato report that the Newcastle player has concluded all arrangements with Marseille and despite apparently carrying an ankle injury at the moment, he will link up with the French club as soon as United give it the green light. Marseille had a desperate start to the season and conceded five goals in their opening two matches to lowly Bastia and Montpellier, picking up only one point in the process. They steadied the ship with a single goal win against Guingamp last weekend, for who Sylvain Marveaux played the full ninety minutes. Newcastle are obviously desperate to get Mapou out of the club but whether a loan deal would lead to Mike Ashley allowing another incoming transfer(s) is open to question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 They've both been pushed to fullback because they're not quite ready for centre half. They'll never become ready by playing fullback, completely different positions. You've got to persist and if it then doesn't work you move on. We've botched the approach with MBiwa, but he has also done himself no favours. From the little that we've seen I think he's one of those players who looks technically good and confident when he's not under pressure or having to make a split second decision, however the moment that changes it quickly falls to bits. The last player who sticks in the memory like that was David Rozenhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11269 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Surely Richards has to be an upgrade on Williamson and Taylor. At least it would mean a different corner routine personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatty 24 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Bossing his first start for Roma. Good old Pards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Aye - Mapou was never the problem. He seems to get a lot of stick mind - a lot of people don't rate him which is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 They don't rate him because they didn't see him in his proper position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 And it's easier to blame the French lad rather than the fist pumping arsehole from Whitley Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Of course lets not forget the lad himself said he found the premiership too physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 '"Perhaps because in England they see things in a different way, everything there is based on physicality'' i.e Pardew didn't think he was tall enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 '"Perhaps because in England they see things in a different way, everything there is based on physicality'' i.e Pardew didn't think he was tall enough. And the rest of that quote.... "However, here it's more about ball possession and I believe that the Serie A is more similar to the Ligue 1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Right. He's gone to play some football basically - because Rudi Garcia isn't a complete idiot when it comes to management. If he was 6'4 he would have started every game under Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatty 24 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 CT Utter mong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 He was shite, he didn't like it here. Don't blame everything on Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33197 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Should've played him as centre half and accept that he'd drop the odd bollock, much easier for an attacker who's new to the league to hit the ground running than a defender in the same circumstances, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 He's shite - which is why he's ended up at Roma - who challenged for the Scudetto last year and qualified for the champions league - winning their first ten matches under a manager who knows that Yanga-Mbiwa is a good player because he watched him captain a Montpellier team to the ligue 1 title aged 23 - vs PSGs Arab money and the traditional big French clubs. He's also a fully capped French international. Or Alan Pardew is shite. Err... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 If Pardew gets all the blame when a player comes from a different league and does shit, does he get all the praise when they do well? Debuchy, Cabaye, Cisse, Sissoko, Haidara, etc. Does that mean Pardew is an absolute genius when it comes to developing foreign talent? My feeling is that a lot of it depends on the player, and blaming Pardew for a Ligue 1 player not living up to the hype in the Premier League is a bit ridiculous. He played at CB and he was terrible (Everton game comes to mind). Loaning him out was stupid, but Pardew is not the lone reason he wasn't a good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 in your opinion. In mine, he was already equal to Williamson at least, but never got the run he needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 biCTor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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