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What I wanted to do though was make this thread about ex-NUFC players, some that were a little bit before my time but that the older members of the forum could give their input as I'm a sucker for any form of NUFC history. Especially when it comes to of our players.

 

So I'll start off with Irving Nattrass. My dad absolutely raves about him but he's a player I know very little about.

 

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I thought there still might be some as say when somebody like Tony Green is mentioned a few post about how he was the best they've ever seen.

 

If there isn't enough response I'll change eras then. :glare:

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I used to get to the very odd game as a young'un during the seventys but not enough where I can remember much about the players. Spent halt the time trying to get into a position where you could actually see the pitch! :lol:

 

Willie McFaul was my hero at that time anyway and I always wanted to be a goally.

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I knows lad in his mid 50s who says Nattrass is the best defender he's ever seen in a black and white shirt. However, even though I am, almost unbeleiveably, even older than Howmanheyman, I never saw him play either. KCG may be your man though...

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Stoichkov - Legend

 

 

(Couple of blokes in my old club would rave about Green, mind. Also remember an old timer going on about Bobby Mitchell and to be honest I could listen to stuff like that all day long, especially when you're sitting around having a few pints.)

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I used to get to the very odd game as a young'un during the seventys but not enough where I can remember much about the players. Spent halt the time trying to get a good spot in the queue for 'Keegan's hotdogs' where you could actually smell the onions! :lol:

 

Willie McFaul was my hero at that time anyway and I always wanted to be a goally.

 

You wanted to be a keeper??!!

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(Couple of blokes in my old club would rave about Green, mind. Also remember an old timer going on about Bobby Mitchell and to be honest I could listen to stuff like that all day long, especially when you're sitting around having a few pints.)

 

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When my Grandad was alive (he passed away 5 years ago) I used to love listening to him telling me stories similar to that. The one player he would always go on about was Len White. He said of all the centre forward he'd seen in his time as a Newcastle supporter White was the best of the lot.

 

He would also never stop talking about Ronnie Simpson and how Given couldn't hold a candle to him. Wasn't Simpson the Celtic goalkeeper when they won the European Cup too?

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FORMER football favourite Irving Nattrass has admitted defeat after being forced to shut up shop for good.

 

Knowing he wouldn’t be able to play football forever, Irving, 60, launched the first in his Factory Shop chain in 1978 while still on the books at Newcastle United.

 

Offering customers big name brands at low prices, business was soon booming and over the next two decades the family-run firm spread to high streets across the region, in Hexham, Kingston Park, Battle Hill, Barnard Castle, Chester-le-Street and at Royal Quays.

 

But, as for many, the current economic climate hit hard, proving to be one opposition Irving couldn’t beat and with trade slowing three weeks ago he closed the last of his stores.

 

Dejected at the loss of the business he’d spent years growing, Irving, who made more than 300 appearances for Newcastle and a further 220 for Middlesbrough, said: “I’ve been in business for the past 30 years and this is the worst and toughest I have ever known it, and that is saying something. It is just so competitive.

 

“Going back to 2000 we had seven stores, and over the years we’d been able to slow some of them down and then expand them again. Then two years ago we were told the recession had ended when in fact it was just getting started.

 

“When we started out we were a niche market, but now with the large supermarkets selling clothes and stores like Primark it is really competitive.

 

 

“The last shop in the chain was in Whitley Bay and that was shut down three weeks ago. It is the final one to go and it’s very disappointing for us to have to end the family business.”

 

Back in his footballing days, Irving was known to be so versatile he could play across the back four and centre midfield but felt he was best as a sweeper.

 

Having missed out on one Wembley Stadium final, in the 1974 FA Cup against Liverpool, he went onto play in the 1976 League Cup final against Manchester City.

 

The same year, stars like Irving and teammates Malcolm Macdonald faced a stern attitude from the Government over pay restrictions said to be causing unrest among some players. It was felt the stars on the pitch should make sacrifices like everyone else.

 

Retiring in 1986, with hindsight Irving now says he should have stayed in football, adding: “I set the first shop up while still playing with a view to it being something I could fall back on when I left the game.

 

“In hindsight I should have gone back to the game or TV. Five years after I left things got better but that is hindsight and you have to live by the decision you make.”

 

Irving, who ran the shop in Whitley Bay with his wife Vicki, is now deciding what do to next having seen his once successful business relegated from the high street.

 

He said: “Vicki has already got a new job as a manager of shop in Whitley Bay and is doing really well. I have my van so could do some driving jobs, but it is difficult for a 60-year-old looking for work and with Christmas coming.

 

“I feel the North has really borne the brunt of the economic climate and we are very sad and disappointed by what has happened.”

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You wanted to be a keeper??!!

 

Yup! :)

 

Played in goal for the juniors and remember this save as clear as if it happened yesterday. A thunderbolt of a shot came from the corner of the box and was heading straight for the top right corner when I dived mid air at full stretch, caught the ball, rolled comando style and sprung up. (I can still hear the crowd going mad) ;)

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I knows lad in his mid 50s who says Nattrass is the best defender he's ever seen in a black and white shirt. However, even though I am, almost unbeleiveably, even older than Howmanheyman, I never saw him play either. KCG may be your man though...

 

I just missed him I only started going to games in 1980.

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Alright then I'll go for a change.

 

Kenny Wharton.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAG5qHfwY38

I started going in 1985 when I was 7, and in the 80's probably saw 70 games maybe more. Kenny Wharton for me is looked back on positively by toon fans of that era, however, I can say in my opinion, he was fucking shite. He was hesitant, slow, awkward, and the fact he was a geordie from West Denton and had a deep love for the club overlooks how poor he was. He could play left back or midfield, but his best pal growing up Kevin Richardson was a million times better than him, he won 3 titles Richardson, used to play for Monty Boys Clue. He wouldn't have got a game or even in the squad at Liverpool, Everton, Forest, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal, Sheff Wed, Villa..nen of them. His legendary ball sit hides a multitude of sins, as does his versatility. I accept older people than me are far up his arse, but for me he was shite.

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Was at that game where he sat n the ball. My late Granda and Uncle were over from Northern Ireland so was fitting Michael O'Neill got a hat-trick that day.

His first was one of the best goals I'd seen at SJP at that point. 25 yard left foot volley in the top corner at the leazes end, he was only 18 at the time, everyone thought he'd be a world beater.

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I'll link Leazes in to this thread so he can read it, a thread made for Leazes this. I can't give an opinion on Irving Natrass as I wasn't born when he was played.

Can you get some responses off him too?

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