LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 The first solar panel, built in the 50s, is still operating at around 70% efficiency. LTB, lots of LAs have leased the roof space to private firms. Ah interesting, cheers . Jonny Ball would know how the cunts work . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'm not quite sure what people are after, but this is the device which is most critical in terms of grid connection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_inverter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 If you really believe that, there is no hope for the future. Right, so if more people turn to greener energy, like Solar & wind, then the prices of conventional energy will have to come down to compete with these renewable sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Ive just read what Rikko has put and IMO thats the problem. People are not thinking outside of the box, they are not thinking long term. i) It would have added value to the house and ii) The long term gain outweighs the short term, i.e my point above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21603 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Ive just read what Rikko has put and IMO thats the problem. People are not thinking outside of the box, they are not thinking long term. i) It would have added value to the house and ii) The long term gain outweighs the short term, i.e my point above. On the contrary, I think Rikko factored all that on before making a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Right, so if more people turn to greener energy, like Solar & wind, then the prices of conventional energy will have to come down to compete with these renewable sources? This greener energy won't save you a penny , infact go back and find a bill (if you have one) from about 5 years ago and compare it with your bills now (yes take into account inflation) and you will get a good idea as to what to expect in the next 10 years when green re-newable type energy takes hold. These companies are there to make money and lots of it and we pay no matter what they hike up because it's all in the name of saving the planet and it's an expensive business saving the planet, so dig deep. That's what we are dealing with. I think solar panels are a big scam that makes people pay out a small fortune because they see their bills rising like mad and they have a belief that everything will be cosy later on in life, yet in my opinion there will be no real gain at all. The only gain will be the energy companies, plus those companies that make the actual panels and fix them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35076 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I reckon conspiracy theorists like wolfy here are actually agents working on behalf of the Illuminati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Im sure it was on here somebody posted on how the region (in china?) where the majoriry of these panels have been made has ended up as a toxic hotspot . And what is a hotspot not ? A good spot, that's what . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I reckon conspiracy theorists like wolfy here are actually agents working on behalf of the Illuminati. I think you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35076 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I think you are. That's what we want you to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 That's what we want you to think. Oh no, the "WE" hahahaha.Alex of the damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikko 20 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I looked at it as an investment, the risks wereto high to justify the outlay. I moved out of that house 2 years later and would have taken a huge loss on the solar panels including any increase they would've given in value on the property. The problem with solar and wind is they are still too expensive for normal households up front. The payback time is too long. I care more about having a good holiday this year then having slightly reduced energy bills for the next few years. Unless you are certain you will stay where you live now for the next 10-20 years or an strong eco hippy it's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I have a bit of difficulty with how households manage to channel excess energy back to the grid. Does anyone know what wiring system is installed into homes that send the excess energy back to the grid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 You home has a cable feeding it that consists of a Live, neutral and Earth, so how is the excess energy channelled back to the grid from this set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Radiated heat can pass trough a vacuum . Hah! Thanks for finally admitting that. /Wolfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Hah! Thanks for finally admitting that. /Wolfy I said it could before, you just didn't acknowledge it.Although it does travel through a vacuum, it has no effect until it hits something such as Earth's atmosphere where it then agitates the molecules creating light and heat. Edited November 8, 2012 by wolfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I said it could before, you just didn't acknowledge it.Although it does travel through a vacuum, it has no effect until it hits something such as Earth's atmosphere where it then agitates the molecules creating light and heat. Yet heat won't radiat from satellites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35076 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 There's something more than a bit tragic about these barmpot theories / attention-seeking threads like. That's the thing with the internet though, if it was down the pub you'd just pat him on the head, say aye and go back to ignoring the sad sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Yet heat won't radiat from satellites? We can't test that out as there (as you know my thoughts) are no satellites in space.It would radiate away far too slowly because there is no fan system or anything that can dissipate it meaning the system would be rendered useless in very short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 There's something more than a bit tragic about these barmpot theories / attention-seeking threads like. That's the thing with the internet though, if it was down the pub you'd just pat him on the head, say aye and go back to ignoring the sad sack. They're only barmpot theories to you because you haven't a clue what you're talking about, except to stand behind those that can actually put something forward.I've seen people like you when I was at school...you're the one that stands at the back of a baying mob and points his finger shouting "YEAH" to anything the mob says, hahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 On the contrary, I think Rikko factored all that on before making a decision. Ah apologie,s thats my ignorance again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 You home has a cable feeding it that consists of a Live, neutral and Earth, so how is the excess energy channelled back to the grid from this set up? I've answered that. Does everyone on this forum have me on ignore? HELLO HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THERE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35076 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 They're only barmpot theories to you because you haven't a clue what you're talking about, except to stand behind those that can actually put something forward. I've seen people like you when I was at school...you're the one that stands at the back of a baying mob and points his finger shouting "YEAH" to anything the mob says, hahahaha. Rattled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I've answered that. Does everyone on this forum have me on ignore? HELLO HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THERE? Yes I read the article you posted up but it doesn't exactly say how the excess energy is channelled back to the grid as far as I can see. As I said earlier, a home is connected by an armoured cable carrying 3 wires, Live ,Neutral, Earth. For excess electric to be channelled back to the grid, it could only go via one of these wires, but how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21603 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Alex is worse than a bully, he hides behind bullies. The cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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