ChezGiven 0 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Going well in Europe, top half of the league and 3 points off the CL places. If we're shite then so is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 You'll never see NUFC win a game 5-0 with this side, but the positive is as discussed, we have a good shape and are very hard to break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4826 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It's pretty much as it was last year. We could have gone 6th yesterday but for one sloppy goal conceded. On the pitch I see us as being as tough to beat as we were then and still winning more than we lose by tight margians, sometimes against the run of play. Been worse off with injuries this year too. CT's view seems to have gone from Pardew being capable of a Champions league (and title) push last season to a complete shambles of a man this season. Weird. Your missing the point tbh, our problems this year are self inflicted mainly due to the personnel / shape we are playing. Bordeaux was a shining example of what a difference we are when we have a threat down both wings. The forwards have better service, they use the space better creating more space for the likes of Cabaye to use which in turn makes out whole play look slicker. Tbh I'm going to stop rattling on about it. Amazes me how some dont see it. We have the personnel to but out a slick attacking team that should be able to create chances galore for the Cisses, leaving lots of opportunities for HBA and Cabaye to run riot and control things. We haven't done it this year and that's purely down to Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 You'll never see NUFC win a game 5-0 with this side, but the positive is as discussed, we have a good shape and are very hard to break down. it's the manager rather than the players though innit. we could go out and a hammer a team like southampton or reading 5-0 they went out and expressed themselves - we've got the players to turn teams over. but the manager is quite cautious and doesn't seem to want them to play with much freedom. i suppose that's in turn makes us compact and hard to beat. oen thing about pardew is he could treat some opponents with less respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35574 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 A lot of it is he doesn't want to piss Ba off in case he leaves in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Your missing the point tbh, our problems this year are self inflicted mainly due to the personnel / shape we are playing. Bordeaux was a shining example of what a difference we are when we have a threat down both wings. The forwards have better service, they use the space better creating more space for the likes of Cabaye to use which in turn makes out whole play look slicker. Tbh I'm going to stop rattling on about it. Amazes me how some dont see it. We have the personnel to but out a slick attacking team that should be able to create chances galore for the Cisses, leaving lots of opportunities for HBA and Cabaye to run riot and control things. We haven't done it this year and that's purely down to Pardew. It's only slick in your mind. In practice it leaves gaps and a LOT of running for a team to do in the fast pace of the Premier League. I never saw the Bordeaux game, but Ben Arfa didn't even play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17649 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 CT you're confusing a purple patch from Cisse (one of the best scoring runs in the top divison for 30 years, it was freakinsh, literally everythinghe hit went in whether it was a glaring chance or he conjured something unbeleiveable out of nothing) last spring with the whole of last season. Forget it mate, it wasnt all like that. Brighton,Fulham,Spur...regardless of personnel available they were all fuckin abysmal. A lot of ohers were merely "iffy"...v Bolton with 4th still a real possibility we were fuckin shocking too. Bordeaux?...look at squidwards last run out in the premier league and then look at the room he gets in Europe. Ben Arfa gets no room in league games but he's our best player because once or twice a game he'll dance past a defender or two and either create or score a goal himself. We're a slightly above average side. And we were last season too. If Ashley opens his wallet and brings in the players we need in January we'll have a good season iyam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Who said we resembled Barcelona like? Me. Barcelona wished they were us and could do Man U 3 nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I agree with that PL. I'd add that some of the criticism of Pardew whilst unfair, is probably highlighting some real weaknesses. I think people know that Pardew wants us to be hard to beat first as winning, not playing with style, is his priority. Last season he said that he focused on getting us organised first before allowing us to play more expansively. However, this season, its not about gelling the 'group' together for the first time and forging relationships, partnerships and understanding. Its about consolidating the team ethics, commitment, organisation and the psychology of being the "5th" best team in the league (heavy on the quote marks). This changes how we approach each game, despite him insisting 'we are Newcastle, therefore we should try to win every game'. That might be true but as a statement it hides the complexity and specific nature of preparation for each game. In all of this, he has come up a wee bit short as the team performances have reflected. I could understand some of the criticism leveled at him last season but found it ridiculously naive and narrow-minded. Having seen what he achieved last season, i think he was won the right to be given the benefit of the doubt in his methods. He deserved it last season, now he has earned it. We'll see where we are at the end of January. A lot of my own analysis of him as a manager will depend on his persuasiveness with the owner to get him the defensive cover we so badly need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35574 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 That's about the size of it like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 CT you're confusing a purple patch from Cisse (one of the best scoring runs in the top divison for 30 years, it was freakinsh, literally everythinghe hit went in whether it was a glaring chance or he conjured something unbeleiveable out of nothing) last spring with the whole of last season. Forget it mate, it wasnt all like that. Brighton,Fulham,Spur...regardless of personnel available they were all fuckin abysmal. A lot of ohers were merely "iffy"...v Bolton with 4th still a real possibility we were fuckin shocking too. Bordeaux?...look at squidwards last run out in the premier league and then look at the room he gets in Europe. Ben Arfa gets no room in league games but he's our best player because once or twice a game he'll dance past a defender or two and either create or score a goal himself. We're a slightly above average side. And we were last season too. If Ashley opens his wallet and brings in the players we need in January we'll have a good season iyam. Fair, and spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I agree with that PL. I'd add that some of the criticism of Pardew whilst unfair, is probably highlighting some real weaknesses. I think people know that Pardew wants us to be hard to beat first as winning, not playing with style, is his priority. Last season he said that he focused on getting us organised first before allowing us to play more expansively. However, this season, its not about gelling the 'group' together for the first time and forging relationships, partnerships and understanding. Its about consolidating the team ethics, commitment, organisation and the psychology of being the "5th" best team in the league (heavy on the quote marks). This changes how we approach each game, despite him insisting 'we are Newcastle, therefore we should try to win every game'. That might be true but as a statement it hides the complexity and specific nature of preparation for each game. In all of this, he has come up a wee bit short as the team performances have reflected. I could understand some of the criticism leveled at him last season but found it ridiculously naive and narrow-minded. Having seen what he achieved last season, i think he was won the right to be given the benefit of the doubt in his methods. He deserved it last season, now he has earned it. We'll see where we are at the end of January. A lot of my own analysis of him as a manager will depend on his persuasiveness with the owner to get him the defensive cover we so badly need. Spot on, and fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 CT you're confusing a purple patch from Cisse (one of the best scoring runs in the top divison for 30 years, it was freakinsh, literally everythinghe hit went in whether it was a glaring chance or he conjured something unbeleiveable out of nothing) last spring with the whole of last season. Forget it mate, it wasnt all like that. Brighton,Fulham,Spur...regardless of personnel available they were all fuckin abysmal. A lot of ohers were merely "iffy"...v Bolton with 4th still a real possibility we were fuckin shocking too. Bordeaux?...look at squidwards last run out in the premier league and then look at the room he gets in Europe. Ben Arfa gets no room in league games but he's our best player because once or twice a game he'll dance past a defender or two and either create or score a goal himself. We're a slightly above average side. And we were last season too. If Ashley opens his wallet and brings in the players we need in January we'll have a good season iyam. Aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 He takes a feast or famine approach to most things in life though, doesn't he? Fucking hell Alex, has nobody bit yet? Including the Beansmeister General himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 To say Liverpool had a load of possesion and a load of shots, did they REALLY cause a MASSIVE threat and make Krul graft? Typical Rodgers team IMO. All hot air. I'd say it's typical Liverpool for the past 3 or 4 years actually - solid midfield but absolutely nothing in the final 3rd. Worryingly I reckon the yanks will address that though come January. If they'd spent £6m on Dempsey in August I reckon they'd be well up the table by now... They bossed the possesion but a combination of our solid defence and their awful attack meant the threat was worthless most of the game. Incidently they reckon that the challenge Colo made on Suarez in the first half wasn't a penalty but the 'handball' was? Was it just me who missed that?!?! Funniest moment had to be the sprinkler. Probably first time in a month some of those skanky trogs have had a shower tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 After YNWA you didnt hear the Bin Dipperts until they scored, they were a fukcing shambles. Our lass was whinging the referee kicked the game off too early because they hadn't finished YNWA... and aye, she was serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20725 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Our lass was whinging the referee kicked the game off too early because they hadn't finished YNWA... and aye, she was serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Only saw MOD highlights. Hatem has lost his shooting boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Only saw MOD highlights. Hatem has lost his shooting boots. Thought he was off key with his dribbling tbh - lost out of few times on the flank (particularly first half) in a position that left us exposed. That said he absolutely made our goal in a moment of magic. Left Enrique with his arse hanging out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Thought he was off key with his dribbling tbh - lost out of few times on the flank (particularly first half) in a position that left us exposed. That said he absolutely made our goal in a moment of magic. Left Enrique with his arse hanging out... Yeah highlight of the game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yeah highlight of the game for me. The goal or Enrique being 'raped'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The goal or Enrique being 'raped'?? Forgot Saylor did one of his trademark sliding blocks to stop an almost certain goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 At least Gerrard's on the decline now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20725 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 At least Gerrard's on the decline now. He looked old and knackered yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 He looked old and knackered yesterday. I noted that as a highlight of the last home game. They kept saying he would be adding "many, many more" to his appearance record - I fucking hope so in his current state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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