NewcastleStats 0 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I recently wrote an article of worst 5 signings - financially. I was particularly surprised at overall cost in some cases (Owen's overall and Xisco's per game were staggering!) and it got me thinking. Who did i miss? Who do you think has been our worst ever signings? You can read the full article here: http://newcastlestats.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/newcastle-uniteds-five-financially-worst-signings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Fascinating & depressing. Economically, we were like a Greek Viv Nicholson under Shepherd. However I still believe Francisco Jimenez Tejada may yet come good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Isn't Xisco on £200k per month?! He must to super shite to not even get on the bench occasionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 To think Xisco had made £12mil in wages 'playing' for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_don 0 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 If we count Smith as a striker when he signed, then his scoring record would put him in there surely? At least Owen and Boumsong had periods where they looked good. Smith managed to be competent when him and Butt went round hoofing people about in the first few months of the Championship season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewcastleStats 0 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 If we count Smith as a striker when he signed, then his scoring record would put him in there surely? At least Owen and Boumsong had periods where they looked good. Smith managed to be competent when him and Butt went round hoofing people about in the first few months of the Championship season. Smith was very close to inclusion for me, the only justification was that he gave his all for NUFC and i felt those included perhaps warranted inclusion more purely on the grounds of being absolutely hopeless. Smith was vital post-Leyton Orient for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_don 0 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Smith was very close to inclusion for me, the only justification was that he gave his all for NUFC and i felt those included perhaps warranted inclusion more purely on the grounds of being absolutely hopeless. Smith was vital post-Leyton Orient for us. Fair point. I guess the lack of professionalism of the Spanish contingent makes them impossible to leave out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Is Xisco hopeless though? I don't think he ever had a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleeToonFan 1 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 But there MUST be a reason successive managers either offload him or whack him in the reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Owen was no where near as bad as you people make him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And surely some of Xisco's wage would have been convered when he was loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I doubt Deportivo would have covered that much of Xisco's wages. We have Wise and his cronies to thank for being lumbered with what successive managers have all agreed is a totally useless player for the prem. I can't wait for him to go, I expect his wages are worth another "purple". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 And surely some of Xisco's wage would have been convered when he was loaned out. Hardly any of the 50k a week would of been to be honest. They were in the second tier last season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 You can just about forgive Depor for Luque and Xisco as they gave us Colo. Didnt we get insurance on Owen meaning those financial figures are wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Didnt we get insurance on Owen meaning those financial figures are wrong? £10m apparently. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2007/jun/26/newsstory.sport8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Agree that not a lot of the wages would be covered in the scheme of things. Were the rumours not that he was on 40k? Perhaps a quarter of that. Anyway, suppose it's splitting hairs as he's been an unmitigated disaster in terms of value even if they picked up his entire wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Agree that not a lot of the wages would be covered in the scheme of things. Were the rumours not that he was on 40k? Perhaps a quarter of that. Anyway, suppose it's splitting hairs as he's been an unmitigated disaster in terms of value even if they picked up his entire wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I remember when Ferguson went back to the blue dippers, Anal wrote in the paper that pound for pound he was the worst signing in the clubs history, he wouldn't even be in the top 10 imo. Luque and Xisco, are up there with the worst signings in world footballing history for any club imo. The Marco Boogers of their era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Our worst ever signing without a doubt in terms of money wasted for no real team benefit was Michael Owen. He might have scored goals but he cost a fortune to buy and his wages were astronomical. The real waste of money without any real contribution has got to be Xisco. Not because of himself but because he was brought in and frozen out and has been picking up his wages ever since. There's your two modern day wastes of money. Add Marcelino and Luque to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Our worst ever signing without a doubt in terms of money wasted for no real team benefit was Michael Owen. He might have scored goals but he cost a fortune to buy and his wages were astronomical. The real waste of money without any real contribution has got to be Xisco. Not because of himself but because he was brought in and frozen out and has been picking up his wages ever since. There's your two modern day wastes of money. Add Marcelino and Luque to that. Owen scored almost a goal every 2 games, which is a good record. He wasn't fit often enough, but we at least got something from him occasionally, what have we got from Xisco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Owen scored almost a goal every 2 games, which is a good record. He wasn't fit often enough, but we at least got something from him occasionally, what have we got from Xisco? What benefit did we get from Owen? Yes he scored a few goals but the club didn't benefit. Meaning we didn't gain anything from his goals.He cost 17 million and 100 grand a week. He cost us the most Financially,which is what the topic asks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The thing was with Owen, we had a player who had the ability to keep us up and at that point when we needed him most he wasnt interested. you could see in games, he'd just stopped trying. I really liked big dunc when he was here but similarly injuries made him a bad buy. Xisco on the other hand has done nowt. Marcelino was actually a decent defender when he played, but there was the problem. What was it again, sore finger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Owen was the opposite to what Peter Beardsley was. Ok Owen scored a few goals for us but that's about it. Peter Beardsley was tremendous for us, obviously and to be fair he oozed class , on the pitch and gave a tremendous amount of joy to the fans, obviously. To be fair, he obviously wanted to play for this club so badly and was obviously proud to pull on that tremendous black and white shirt for the tremendous fans to be fair. If Beardsley was to comment on Owen, I would think he would say Owen was our biggest money waste to be fair. He might say he WAS a tremendous player in his time, obviously...but to be fair I think he would obviously speak the truth about it all, as he loves this club with tremendous love and passion, which is very clear for us all to see to be fair. Edited October 22, 2012 by wolfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What benefit did we get from Owen? Yes he scored a few goals but the club didn't benefit. Meaning we didn't gain anything from his goals. He cost 17 million and 100 grand a week. He cost us the most Financially,which is what the topic asks. He delivered something though, he delivered 40 goals, and beat Sunderland on his own. Luque was on 60k a week, with a £12m fee and gave us absolutely fuck all, as for Xisco 1 goal 5 appearances in 5 years. Incomparable. Even using some gimpy equasion you could prove Owen was better value than either of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 He delivered something though, he delivered 40 goals, and beat Sunderland on his own. Luque was on 60k a week, with a £12m fee and gave us absolutely fuck all, as for Xisco 1 goal 5 appearances in 5 years. Incomparable. Even using some gimpy equasion you could prove Owen was better value than either of these. Yeah, you're probably right. I just can't stand that little bastard Owen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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