Red bull(shit) stratos record.

[wolfy 12]

So you just flat out didn't understand what I just typed?

 

We're each more educated in our field than you are in our field, yet you're saying you (with no insight into our fields) know more about our fields than we do, because... that's just the way it is.

 

You state nuclear power doesn't work, therefore Rikko stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back that up, is dismissed by you.

You state satellites can't work, therefore me stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back it up, is dismissed by you as well.

Ditto Renton.

 

So three people with no agenda, and who disagree on a plethora of subjects and who share bugger all else in common) are all wrong and you without a scrap of evidence (beyond your "I'm right because I know it" stance) to back it up, are right?

 

Yet we've got the closed mind?

Nope.

 

You do not put satellites into space, correct?

You are told your tracking is done via satellites, so why should you believe anything other. After all, it's your job and you watch a screen and you can see that you are tracking vehicles or whatever.

 

Rikko, could know the ins and outs of an atom, fissioning, critical mass, melt downs, boiling water reactors and how they work, gas cooled reactors and how they work and so on and so on by reading up on them. He's just following the writings of whoever made all this up.

That doesn't mean he's seen what goes on in a reactor. He might walk around a nuclear plant all day long looking at dials and pressure gauges but he does not know what is inside that reactor and how it really works.

What he does know, is, he's read up on it and it all makes sense, just as it makes sense for a driver to believe his Navman is using satellites. Why think otherwise when it's telling you to turn left or take the first exit.

 

It's all real and it's all placed into the mind of the person who is trained for whatever job they are being part of.

Renton might look at cells and see them dividing or looking at blood and seeing certain things in it. He knows that because he sees that with his own eyes.

Edited October 15, 2012 by wolfy

[wolfy 12]

And what's the second phase of this operation? T-shirts?

Wait and see and do your own jigsaw.

[Gemmill 44995]

And what's the second phase of this operation? T-shirts?

 

Minis with pretend Red Bull Stratos cans will dominate the highways. But by then it'll be too late.

[The Fish 10876]

Nope.

 

You do not put satellites into space, correct?

You are told your tracking is done via satellites, so why should you believe anything other. After all, it's your job and you watch a screen and you can see that you are tracking vehicles or whatever.

 

Rikko, could know the ins and outs of an atom, fissioning, critical mass, melt downs, boiling water reactors and how they work, gas cooled reactors and how they work and so on and so on by reading up on them. He's just following the writings of whoever made all this up.

That doesn't mean he's seen what goes on in a reactor. He might walk around a nuclear plant all day long looking at dials and pressure gauges but he does not know what is inside that reactor and how it really works.

What he does know, is, he's read up on it and it all makes sense, just as it makes sense for a driver to believe his Navman is using satellites. Why think otherwise when it's telling you to turn left or take the first exit.

 

It's all real and it's all placed into the mind of the person who is trained for whatever job they are being part of.

Renton might look at cells and see them dividing or looking at blood and seeing certain things in it. He knows that because he sees that with his own eyes.

 

Are you that blind to your closed-mindedness? You're saying that rather than accept evidence, logical progression of theory to practise, You're right and there's a impossibly large and complicated conspiracy?

 

Either centuries of science is a lie and you (an unremarkable man with no insight beyond wild supposition) are the only reasonable voice...

 

Or

 

You're wrong and just a stubborn fool?

[wolfy 12]

 

Are you that blind to your closed-mindedness? You're saying that rather than accept evidence, logical progression of theory to practise, You're right and there's a impossibly large and complicated conspiracy?

 

Either centuries of science is a lie and you (an unremarkable man with no insight beyond wild supposition) are the only reasonable voice...

 

Or

 

You're wrong and just a stubborn fool?

I don't know if I'm right on a lot of things but I have questions about what I was led to believe, so I question them. There's certain things which I know in my own mind that are blatant hoaxes, which most of you already know about.

[Park Life 71]

So you just flat out didn't understand what I just typed?

 

We're each more educated in our field than you are in our field, yet you're saying you (with no insight into our fields) know more about our fields than we do, because... that's just the way it is.

 

You state nuclear power doesn't work, therefore Rikko stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back that up, is dismissed by you.

You state satellites can't work, therefore me stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back it up, is dismissed by you as well.

Ditto Renton.

 

So three people with no agenda, and who disagree on a plethora of subjects and who share bugger all else in common) are all wrong and you without a scrap of evidence (beyond your "I'm right because I know it" stance) to back it up, are right?

 

Yet we've got the closed mind?

 

Lot of science is bollocks tho. Can't even cure the common cold ffs!

 

Just about every paper on the use of drugs in the management of psychiatric conditions was made up we now discover. Yeah Wolfy will know all about that for sure.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Park Life

[The Fish 10876]

I don't know if I'm right on a lot of things but I have questions about what I was led to believe, so I question them. There's certain things which I know in my own mind that are blatant hoaxes, which most of you already know about.

Nobody has a problem with you asking questions. It's that you ignore, dismiss or deride the perfectly reasonable, logical, rational answers you receive.

 

Another thing is your misuse of language. There's a difference between knowing something and believing something. Knowing something would require evidence, facts or an expertise into the subject. You've got none of these, on anything you "know 100% in your mind". You just have your closed-minded belief.

[Meenzer 15561]

You do not put satellites into space, correct?

You are told your tracking is done via satellites, so why should you believe anything other. After all, it's your job and you watch a screen and you can see that you are tracking vehicles or whatever.

 

You have no influence over the ingestion, digestion and excretion processes taking place within your body. All you see is food going in one end and a turd curling out the other. What do you think/believe/"know" happens between those two events?

[wolfy 12]

You have no influence over the ingestion, digestion and excretion processes taking place within your body. All you see is food going in one end and a turd curling out the other. What do you think/believe/"know" happens between those two events?

I don't know, I'm not a surgeon or into biology, yet I don't have a tendency to question how our bodies react to certain things in the main because it's not something that I actually put at the forefront of my mind.

 

If you tell me why it does this and that, I'll accept what you say because I am not in the process or have the inclination to question it.

 

There's many things in life I don't question until something stands out.

What I discuss on here is only the stuff that doesn't ring true to myself.

[wolfy 12]

Nobody has a problem with you asking questions. It's that you ignore, dismiss or deride the perfectly reasonable, logical, rational answers you receive.

 

Another thing is your misuse of language. There's a difference between knowing something and believing something. Knowing something would require evidence, facts or an expertise into the subject. You've got none of these, on anything you "know 100% in your mind". You just have your closed-minded belief.

I'm far from perfect, I might jump in and say I know this and that, yet the fact is, I believe in my own mind that many things are not what they seem.

[Meenzer 15561]

I don't know, I'm not a surgeon or into biology, yet I don't have a tendency to question how our bodies react to certain things in the main because it's not something that I actually put at the forefront of my mind.

 

If you tell me why it does this and that, I'll accept what you say because I am not in the process or have the inclination to question it.

 

There's many things in life I don't question until something stands out.

What I discuss on here is only the stuff that doesn't ring true to myself.

 

Hypocrite.

[wolfy 12]

Hypocrite.

How's that?

[Meenzer 15561]

How's that?

 

Because you pick and choose your battles. Real sceptics would reject you, and rightly so.

[The Fish 10876]

I'm far from perfect, I might jump in and say I know this and that, yet the fact is, I believe in my own mind that many things are not what they seem.

The issue is you call people closed minded, or sheep for blindly continuing along a path. Yet you're guilty of that.

[OmaxSteve 0]

I am here too stand beside Wolfy. I also believe that here is no way that what they showed on TV was anything close to "real" life. In fact I don't believe thatthey even made a good attempt at trying to make it look realistic. Click the link below and vist Clues Forum if you are interested in reading and discussing this, and other media faked events.

 

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1451&start=45

 

Wolfy: For those who have not yet been exposed to the lengths and depths that the media regularly goes to broadcast fake news they can watch something like Red Bull and believe that is real. Most people believe that if they see something on television (especially the "news") it must be true. The fact is nothing can be further from the truth.

 

The media has become nothing more than a propaganda arm for the Government and Banksters to brainwash the public into distraction. The end game is to keepo people from discussing the real issues that we are facing in our daily lives. There seems little point to discuss this further here as it seems the huge majority of members

accept whatever they see on TV as being the real Gospel truth and cannot be swayed. The main stream media, showed airplanes vanishing into steel and concrete buildings without even slowing down. ( a complete disregard of crash physics) then showed 110+ storey steel towers collapse into dust due to limited fires burninginside for less than two hours . Most people believe that was real because they saw it on TV , Why would you be surprised that the same people would believe that a shiny fuzzy object jumping around against a black background was actually a man hurtling from space at over 800 miles per hour with nothing but a pressurized suit.?

 

Regards to all.

 

SteveO

[wolfy 12]

Because you pick and choose your battles. Real sceptics would reject you, and rightly so.

I don't pick and choose any battles. I'm not in for any battles.

 

I don't give a rats arse who accepts of rejects me..I have my thoughts and beliefs as do others and it's up to any individual to decide their own stance on issues.

 

Politics is one of the biggest battles out there with left and right wings and what not, yet every individual believes they are correct based on what party they choose and what reforms or whatever that party put out. It causes arguments and fights in pubs and in the street because neither person will back down, yet all their beliefs are based on what each party has sold them, which as we all know , usually turns out to be a big lie in many instances.

 

So what's different here?

 

I have an issue with this red bull record because It not only looks pathetic, it would (in my opinion) never be able to be achieved.

That's my thoughts on it and you're welcome to yours.

 

I pick and choose things based on what I see that raises questions, no matter what it is, so I merely question it. If that pisses people off , tough shit. Either take part and prove why you think it's all true .

If you don't want to or can't, then I can't help that.

[wolfy 12]

The issue is you call people closed minded, or sheep for blindly continuing along a path. Yet you're guilty of that.

I'm guilty of many things, I'm probably hypocritical at times and off the mark at times, who isn't?

 

It's pointless getting into a stalemate argument based on who's a sheep and who's a hypocrite and who is closed minded because we all are at times, it just depends on the topic at hand as to who shows their hand.

[wolfy 12]

I am here too stand beside Wolfy. I also believe that here is no way that what they showed on TV was anything close to "real" life. In fact I don't believe thatthey even made a good attempt at trying to make it look realistic. Click the link below and vist Clues Forum if you are interested in reading and discussing this, and other media faked events.

 

http://www.cluesforu...t=1451&start=45

 

Wolfy: For those who have not yet been exposed to the lengths and depths that the media regularly goes to broadcast fake news they can watch something like Red Bull and believe that is real. Most people believe that if they see something on television (especially the "news") it must be true. The fact is nothing can be further from the truth.

 

The media has become nothing more than a propaganda arm for the Government and Banksters to brainwash the public into distraction. The end game is to keepo people from discussing the real issues that we are facing in our daily lives. There seems little point to discuss this further here as it seems the huge majority of members

accept whatever they see on TV as being the real Gospel truth and cannot be swayed. The main stream media, showed airplanes vanishing into steel and concrete buildings without even slowing down. ( a complete disregard of crash physics) then showed 110+ storey steel towers collapse into dust due to limited fires burninginside for less than two hours . Most people believe that was real because they saw it on TV , Why would you be surprised that the same people would believe that a shiny fuzzy object jumping around against a black background was actually a man hurtling from space at over 800 miles per hour with nothing but a pressurized suit.?

 

Regards to all.

 

SteveO

Nice input Steve.

I get called closed minded as you've probably seen, yet the fact is, I'm open to debate but people who call me closed minded can't see that it's them that are because they hang on to "official stories' and accept them at face value, as you rightly say.

[The Fish 10876]

Nice input Steve.

I get called closed minded as you've probably seen, yet the fact is, I'm open to debate but people who call me closed minded can't see that it's them that are because they hang on to "official stories' and accept them at face value, as you rightly say.

 

No. No you're not open to debate. Stop lying.

[wolfy 12]

If anyone cares to look at the footage of Felix, it's plain to see he is not wearing any pressurised suit.

[wolfy 12]

No. No you're not open to debate. Stop lying.

Of course I'm open to debate. Just not to some, who can't accept someone elses views.

[The Fish 10876]

Of course I'm open to debate. Just not to some, who can't accept someone elses views.

You're not open to debate with people exactly like you then?

[trophyshy 7083]

Right then, how many of us are going to join that forum and troll them lot?

[wolfy 12]

You're not open to debate with people exactly like you then?

I'm open to debate with anyone.

[The Fish 10876]

That forum depresses me.

 

I've breezed a couple of threads and it's a lot of eyerolly smileys and nudge nudge wink winks and little to no substance behind their claims.

 

What does this have to do with these other hoaxes, you ask? First, there is evidence that Michael was aware of and willing to take on the Illuminati. In his video They Dont Really Care About Us, he gives a raised fist to the cops and gives the finger in front of the all seeing eye.

 

 

There's also a lot of the "But that's just my opinion" caveat, which is frankly intellectual cowardice. 'Here's a grand unified theory that flies in the face of sense, reason and logic, but so that I needn't back it up further I'm going to carefully package it as just an opinion".

Edited October 15, 2012 by The Fish