Red bull(shit) stratos record.

[wolfy 12]

The footage on youtube seems comprehensive and fairly clear given the circumstances. Because i havent got the time to discuss camera technologies and capturing the light emitted from an object moving at 700mph from 20 odd miles away i wont be proving anything to you. Common sense and basic understanding of the topic should means its not required though.

Common sense and basic knowledge of fakery means it's not required for me to believe in bullshit.

[wolfy 12]

Bump, just in case this got forgotten on the last page.

Crystal clear footage from start to finish would go a long way to proving that an event was actually true, yet I never see it with stuff like this.

[Meenzer 15561]

I explained before , I used to believe what was on the telly and in the papers and any amazing thing humans achieved, I swallowed , hook line and sinker. Mainly because I had an attitude of, shrug the shoulders and say, hmmm that takes some doing or whatever.

 

It's amazing what can happen when you actually see things that make you question them.

 

Just out of interest, what was it that changed your mind?

[wolfy 12]

Just out of interest, what was it that changed your mind?

9/11.

[trophyshy 7083]

Redbull, deceiving the world.

 

Why would they spend all that money and go to so much effort to fake this in the knowledge that being found out would ruin their cash cow?

[The Fish 10876]

Only where bullshit is concerned.

You don't see that your very 1st sentence proves your closed mindedness?

 

I could say you are closed minded as you stick rigidly to any official story that gets put out.

Don't make things up, it'll give you a headache trying to remember them all and it'll wind you up. I don't buy the majority of the stuff I hear in the news or read in the paper.

 

So lets c.arify a couple of things so that you can see where you're approaching this all wrong.

You assume everything space-related, from a non-geocentric universe through the Felix Baoumgartner's incredible feat of human endeavour, is faked.

I haven't made my my mind up until I've read a bit about it.

 

that's the difference and that you don't/can't/won't see it forever puts you in the "Howl at the Moon" camp along with religious zealots and doom-mongers.

[wolfy 12]

Redbull, deceiving the world.

 

Why would they spend all that money and go to so much effort to fake this in the knowledge that being found out would ruin their cash cow?

Try looking at the wider agenda.

Yes I know it's hard and I won't go into it because to be honest, I don't fancy typing like fuck trying to answer everyone who will come in and say, 'oh Wolfy's a nut' a bell end blah blah blah.

 

It does get a bit tedious answering to people like that and I'd prefer people to at least either put some input in or not to bother to be honest.

 

All I can say is, if you keep vigilant and just afford yourself the time to actually question things, you will see an agenda soon enough as to why this jump was done.

[trophyshy 7083]

A meaningless response tbh, may as well have just gone;

 

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[wolfy 12]

You don't see that your very 1st sentence proves your closed mindedness?

 

 

Don't make things up, it'll give you a headache trying to remember them all and it'll wind you up. I don't buy the majority of the stuff I hear in the news or read in the paper.

 

So lets c.arify a couple of things so that you can see where you're approaching this all wrong.

You assume everything space-related, from a non-geocentric universe through the Felix Baoumgartner's incredible feat of human endeavour, is faked.

I haven't made my my mind up until I've read a bit about it.

 

that's the difference and that you don't/can't/won't see it forever puts you in the "Howl at the Moon" camp along with religious zealots and doom-mongers.

I don't give a fuck what people think of me in terms of, 'he's a nut job', it does get a bit tedious when all that is typed is simply posters coming into a topic to say....'stupid cunt' nutter, thicko, uneducated, looney.

Now I try not to answer to things like that as a rule as it just ends up tit for tat, yet depending on what mood I'm in, I can have a bit of fun with it.

 

The point is though, you all know my stance on space and this is just another bullshit piece of footage that will either go down in history as a fantastic achievement or it will be outed as fake.

 

Chances are it will follow on from the rest of the bull and Felix will be a hero blah blah blah.

As long as I know it's crap then that's all that counts to me.

[wolfy 12]

A meaningless response tbh, may as well have just gone;

 

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Well accept it for what it is.

[The Fish 10876]

Try looking at the wider agenda.

Yes I know it's hard and I won't go into it because to be honest, I don't fancy typing like fuck trying to answer everyone who will come in and say, 'oh Wolfy's a nut' a bell end blah blah blah.

 

It does get a bit tedious answering to people like that and I'd prefer people to at least either put some input in or not to bother to be honest.

 

All I can say is, if you keep vigilant and just afford yourself the time to actually question things, you will see an agenda soon enough as to why this jump was done.

 

Fuck off with that shit wolfy man, there'a huge thread of people humouring you and trying to walk you through the science behind various topics and you're the immovable barricade to logic and reason.

 

Renton literally questions and challenges products to breaking point for a living and you repeatedly insist he accepts whatever he's told.

I've told you that it's impossible for a radio relay system to provide the kind of coverage you currently receive from the constellation satellite network, and yet you state I simply believe what I'm told.

Rikko, who works with nuclear material on submarines, took time to break down what he does in layman's terms, and you've told him his career is built on a lie.

 

The common factor in this, is not a sheep mentality on our behalf, it's a "I'm so quirky and interesting that I'll blindly ignore the nose on my face" mentality on your behalf.

[trophyshy 7083]

If you describe the wider agenda to us then perhaps we can understand your cragfast world view. Stop pissing about with the smokescreen and show us the wizard.

[ewerk 30678]

Seven pages, people.

[Andrew 4774]

Seven pages, people.

 

^this

 

let it go folks and maybe he'll be quiet

[CleeToonFan 1]

What does Renton do for the record?

[The Fish 10876]

8 Pages now to be honest.

 

And I'm not being funny ewerk, but nobody is wound up, nobody is saying anything too offensive, Wolfy's just one of those distracting forum "contributors". You see that it's a wolfy thread, if you don't enjoy them, stay out?

 

I'd wager that the majority of the people giving him the attention are doing so, not out of a righteous need to right a wrong, but more likely it's rare to come across this particular combination of intransigence and stupidity

[trophyshy 7083]

I want him to drop his big cable.

[ewerk 30678]

8 Pages now to be honest.

 

And I'm not being funny ewerk, but nobody is wound up, nobody is saying anything too offensive, Wolfy's just one of those distracting forum "contributors". You see that it's a wolfy thread, if you don't enjoy them, stay out?

 

I'd wager that the majority of the people giving him the attention are doing so, not out of a righteous need to right a wrong, but more likely it's rare to come across this particular combination of intransigence and stupidity

 

I just can't see how anyone enjoys or even bothers interacting with such an obvious WUM. It just feeds his need for attention.

 

And I generally do avoid his threads, as I said, I'm baffled as to why people give him the time of day. More than likely boredom at work I'd guess.

[wolfy 12]

Fuck off with that shit wolfy man, there'a huge thread of people humouring you and trying to walk you through the science behind various topics and you're the immovable barricade to logic and reason.

 

Renton literally questions and challenges products to breaking point for a living and you repeatedly insist he accepts whatever he's told.

I've told you that it's impossible for a radio relay system to provide the kind of coverage you currently receive from the constellation satellite network, and yet you state I simply believe what I'm told.

Rikko, who works with nuclear material on submarines, took time to break down what he does in layman's terms, and you've told him his career is built on a lie.

 

The common factor in this, is not a sheep mentality on our behalf, it's a "I'm so quirky and interesting that I'll blindly ignore the nose on my face" mentality on your behalf.

I'm only interesting to anyone that thinks I'm interesting, I certainly don;t even think it, I just simply have questions and thoughts on events that's all, where my views differ from the main.

 

People can expend as much time as they want humouring me, yet by doing so, they get no further forward do they.

My view isn't that you or Rikko or anyone else knows nothing. My view is that it's very very possible that what you are told, isn't entirely the truth.

 

All I was saying was, nuclear bombs cannot work and nuclear power is not what we are led to believe and I stated my reasons for this, I din't just blindly say, 'oh I don't believe it because I just don;t' I gave reasons as to why, whether they are correct , mildly correct or downright wrong.

I'll never know for sure until something comes out, but I question it because it appears on one hand too fanciful and unworkable as far as I'm concerned.

 

I know satellites in orbit are absolute shite and every other man made craft said to be there and you know the reason for that as well, so that puts your communications as Earth based transmitters and relays and any other equipment capable of producing the required signal...all on Earth.

 

The sheep mentality in itself isn't a bad thing, it just means that people go about life concentrating on what they do and any spare time can be listening to music, playing cards, jogging, e.t.c .e.t.c and stay oblivious to how the world runs around them in terms of what they see on the Hypnotic box in most corners of living rooms, bedrooms, dining rooms, kitchens and wherever they are placed.

[wolfy 12]

If you describe the wider agenda to us then perhaps we can understand your cragfast world view. Stop pissing about with the smokescreen and show us the wizard.

Nah, I'll let you figure it out by taking time to watch how things pan out over the next few months and you might be able to piece a few things toegether.

 

Watch out for the new red bull stratos drinks coming to a pub/store near you. It might be a bit more expensive but remember, this is not just red bull, this will be red bull STRATOS.

Just follow it on from there.

[Howmanheyman 33282]

[trophyshy 7083]

So your big conspiracy here is a new drink?

[The Fish 10876]

I'm only interesting to anyone that thinks I'm interesting, I certainly don;t even think it, I just simply have questions and thoughts on events that's all, where my views differ from the main.

 

People can expend as much time as they want humouring me, yet by doing so, they get no further forward do they.

My view isn't that you or Rikko or anyone else knows nothing. My view is that it's very very possible that what you are told, isn't entirely the truth.

 

All I was saying was, nuclear bombs cannot work and nuclear power is not what we are led to believe and I stated my reasons for this, I din't just blindly say, 'oh I don't believe it because I just don;t' I gave reasons as to why, whether they are correct , mildly correct or downright wrong.

I'll never know for sure until something comes out, but I question it because it appears on one hand too fanciful and unworkable as far as I'm concerned.

 

I know satellites in orbit are absolute shite and every other man made craft said to be there and you know the reason for that as well, so that puts your communications as Earth based transmitters and relays and any other equipment capable of producing the required signal...all on Earth.

 

The sheep mentality in itself isn't a bad thing, it just means that people go about life concentrating on what they do and any spare time can be listening to music, playing cards, jogging, e.t.c .e.t.c and stay oblivious to how the world runs around them in terms of what they see on the Hypnotic box in most corners of living rooms, bedrooms, dining rooms, kitchens and wherever they are placed.

So you just flat out didn't understand what I just typed?

 

We're each more educated in our field than you are in our field, yet you're saying you (with no insight into our fields) know more about our fields than we do, because... that's just the way it is.

 

You state nuclear power doesn't work, therefore Rikko stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back that up, is dismissed by you.

You state satellites can't work, therefore me stating it does and having reams upon reams of evidence to back it up, is dismissed by you as well.

Ditto Renton.

 

So three people with no agenda, and who disagree on a plethora of subjects and who share bugger all else in common) are all wrong and you without a scrap of evidence (beyond your "I'm right because I know it" stance) to back it up, are right?

 

Yet we've got the closed mind?

[wolfy 12]

So your big conspiracy here is a new drink?

Nope, I'm just saying that's how it will start off.

[trophyshy 7083]

Nope, I'm just saying that's how it will start off.

And what's the second phase of this operation? T-shirts?