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Hey, I'm literate, what can I say ???

I used to pull your written English to pieces on a daily basis. Even if you were literate though, would you rather be literate and a wank, or illiterate and a good lad?

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I used to pull your written English to pieces on a daily basis. Even if you were literate though, would you rather be literate and a wank, or illiterate and a good lad?

 

You can hardly write it, let alone pull it to pieces man :D

 

You got the placing of literate/illiterate in the wrong to descripe you/me tbh

 

Put me on ignore if I wind you up so much, will detrimentaly effect your education, but hey ho !

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You can hardly write it, let alone pull it to pieces man :D

 

You got the placing of literate/illiterate in the wrong to descripe you/me tbh

 

Put me on ignore if I wind you up so much, will detrimentaly effect your education, but hey ho !

I have done many times though. It's not even just your comprehension, it's actual spelling you have major problems with too, which is amazing seeing as though Toontastic has an inbuilt spell-checker. I don't want to put anyone on ignore, it's good to have balance and to see the views of absolute cunts, as well as the views of reasonable people too. Edited by McFaul
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I have done many times though. It's not even just your comprehension, it's actual spelling you have major problems with too, which is amazing seeing as though Toontastic has an inbuilt spell-checker. I don't want to put anyone on ignore, it's good to have balance and to see the views of absolute cunts, as well as the views of reasonable people too.

 

All hail Uber-Scotchie

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Had an outstanding one at Ochilview Park when I was a kid and I think the memory has stayed with me. :sweat:

 

There's loads of independent butchers up north, they live and die by their pies.

 

Football pies are not to be trusted in the main (bigger clubs anyway as they'll buy from "manufacturers"), smaller clubs will likely buy/promote one of aforementioned local butchers.

 

McSween's is "the" Edinburgh butchers, (their Haggis pies are immense) bet Hearts/Hibs don't buy from him, will be Hall's stuff (at best).

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Which area is Newcastle Business Park in? It certainly isn't Elswick or Benwell yet Scotswood Road is 20 feet away from it. You're backtracking on a few things. You clearly made a mistake by saying the term Scotchy comes from people living on Scotswood Road. Why did you say this? Are you humble enough to admit the obvious that you didn't realise anyone had lived on Scotswood Road since the 1960's? ON Scotswood Road means, on Scotswood Road, curious to understand why you said this, without admitting your mistake rather than trying to cover it up.

 

 

 

 

Where exactly are my defined parameters of beyond. You'll have to explain why "beyond" to you means exclusively the West End too, which is what you did. Three or four times I said other people in Newcastle, then you started on with the nigger and black anaolgy, when clearly it is other people from Newcastle who use the term "Scotchy", more than people actually from Scotswood and as three or four have mentioned the word is largely not used outside of Newcastle and even in the East End which is what I thought. The only person who vaguely agrees with you is Toonpack, his opinions are null and void before he's even written anything, and he's an arsehole who would say Vanessa Feltz is thin if I said she was fat. People should concentrate on things they know like finance and fiscal policies, rather than discussing things they don't, contradicting people who do and ending up looking foolish.

Who is backtracking here? :lol: You're an arrogant lad at times Stevie but to be telling me, 8 years your elder, what words i used as a young lad takes the piss.

 

You're trying to win an argument on some technicality that Scotswood road doesnt go through the 3 areas of Elswick, Benwell and Scotswood which is just absurd. If you cant answer the question about what area Scotswood road is in, just say so. The business park is near enough to be said to be in Elswick, its 200m from Elswick park. Good enough for me.

 

For your information Stevie i was posting from my phone yesterday whilst waiting for a car pick up. Saying on, along, near are all the same things geographically. Are you suggesting i dont know what the road looks like? That i've never driven along it? My best mate lived next to it for 20 years so i dont need a geography lesson.

 

I said the name Scotchy comes from people living on the Scotswood road as for me that refers to not just Scotswood, i wanted to include Benwell and Elswick. Linguistically on or near are the same for me. Your idiotic pedantry is just because you claimed the word was used by people in west end, which it wasnt.

 

For the 3rd time recently i've posted something thats gone over your head. 'Parameters of beyond' have you heard yourself man? :lol:

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Gene and I haven't always seen eye to eye, but what he said is basically fact imo.

He didnt actually say anything, just that he hadnt heard the word until he was 27 years old. Not surprising when you spend your youth quoting Proust, reading Ginsberg, smoking a pipe and acting like a fucking knob jockey.

 

As for this Stevie

People should concentrate on things they know like finance and fiscal policies, rather than discussing things they don't, contradicting people who do and ending up looking foolish.

As i lived in the North East for 25 years, hung out in Elswick for a large part of my youth and am telling you it was a word we used as kids, what possible justification you have for writing that is beyond me. I'd be embarrassed to try and claim someone doesnt 'know what they are talking about' when the subject area is 'slang words used when we were kids' and someone is telling you their own experience. Its an odd way to present yourself, lets put it that way.

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Who is backtracking here? :lol: You're an arrogant lad at times Stevie but to be telling me, 8 years your elder, what words i used as a young lad takes the piss.

 

You're trying to win an argument on some technicality that Scotswood road doesnt go through the 3 areas of Elswick, Benwell and Scotswood which is just absurd. If you cant answer the question about what area Scotswood road is in, just say so. The business park is near enough to be said to be in Elswick, its 200m from Elswick park. Good enough for me.

 

For your information Stevie i was posting from my phone yesterday whilst waiting for a car pick up. Saying on, along, near are all the same things geographically. Are you suggesting i dont know what the road looks like? That i've never driven along it? My best mate lived next to it for 20 years so i dont need a geography lesson.

 

I said the name Scotchy comes from people living on the Scotswood road as for me that refers to not just Scotswood, i wanted to include Benwell and Elswick. Linguistically on or near are the same for me. Your idiotic pedantry is just because you claimed the word was used by people in west end, which it wasnt.

 

For the 3rd time recently i've posted something thats gone over your head. 'Parameters of beyond' have you heard yourself man? :lol:

I'm an arrogant lad at times :lol: That's like John Holmes saying Dion Dublin has a big cock. Your mate may have lived near Scotswood Road but you can't answer the question behind the reasons why you said "it comes from people who lived ON Scotswood Road". Age is irrelevant, as Gemmill keeps telling me regarding Leazesgate. How can you definitively say it wasn't used by people in the West End. I went to school in the heart of the West End, I'd say two thirds of the people there weren't from the West End, and "Scotchy" was and is a word used regularly to this day. You STILL haven't explained why.

 

In fact, isnt scotchie the name for people who live on scotswood road?

ON Scotswood Road, doesn't mean half a mile away up in Benwell, unless there are tramps camping out on the grass verge of the BMW sales garage.

 

 

Absolute shite, imo its a phrase that comes from the coast. Certainly was us using it when we were kids and not the scotchies from the west end.

This is the most laughable one though, and you still haven't given a reason as to WHY you think it came from the coast. You'd think if people from the East End of the toon or Wallsend had barely heard of it, it's hardly going to be common down the coast. Why do you think it's "a phrase that come from the coast"?

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I'm an arrogant lad at times :lol: That's like John Holmes saying Dion Dublin has a big cock. Your mate may have lived near Scotswood Road but you can't answer the question behind the reasons why you said "it comes from people who lived ON Scotswood Road". Age is irrelevant, as Gemmill keeps telling me regarding Leazesgate. How can you definitively say it wasn't used by people in the West End. I went to school in the heart of the West End, I'd say two thirds of the people there weren't from the West End, and "Scotchy" was and is a word used regularly to this day. You STILL haven't explained why.

 

More lies

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I lived in Hebburn, but knew of the word Scotchy mainly because I served the dregs of society in Bliss Nightclub on a Friday and Saturday night, and I used to hear their woeful patter at the end of the night once the music was off.

 

One time this bloke was giving a three sheets to the wind oration on macroeconomic policy in the former Soviet republic when he was rudely interrupted by one of the bouncers with the words "Here man ya pua scotchy cunt. Away back to Blyth before I give you a bunch of 5s."

 

Which may have been the very moment the word found its way out to the coast.

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I lived in Hebburn, but knew of the word Scotchy mainly because I served the dregs of society in Bliss Nightclub on a Friday and Saturday night, and I used to hear their woeful patter at the end of the night once the music was off.

 

One time this bloke was giving a three sheets to the wind oration on macroeconomic policy in the former Soviet republic when he was rudely interrupted by one of the bouncers with the words "Here man ya pua scotchy cunt. Away back to Blyth before I give you a bunch of 5s."

 

Which may have been the very moment the word found its way out to the coast.

 

Blyth is not "the coast" ;)

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This is the most laughable one though, and you still haven't given a reason as to WHY you think it came from the coast. You'd think if people from the East End of the toon or Wallsend had barely heard of it, it's hardly going to be common down the coast. Why do you think it's "a phrase that come from the coast"?

You said it was "a phrase only people from the West End and beyond seem to know. I've said it to people from the coast and Wallsend and they think you're on about jocks." Shite :lol:

 

I'm not disputing its origin as neither i nor you knows. I admitted it was to wind you up in response to your claim no one from the coast knows the phrase. The logic was 'who the fuck knows where it comes from and as its derogatory it could be a word used by people outside of that specific area'. I'll help you with your case (see below) but that will make a mockery of your pedantry.

 

I was the first person in this thread to connect the word to Scotswood, you were the one claiming you knew where the word came from and who used it. You made grand claims about a word, pretended you knew the intricacies of how its used across the region and thats the statement i said was shite. You're trying to claim some geographical nonsense when on, along or near all means the same and the distance you were talking about is measured in metres.

 

However, lets be clear about a few things. People used to say they lived in Benwell or Elswick as they didnt want to admit they lived on Scotswood road.

Annie Percy, aged 88, saw it all from her home in Atkinson Road, one of the terraced streets that ran down the hill from Benwell. "There was never any pride in saying you were from Scotswood Road. People used to say that they belonged in Benwell or Elswick, as the roads ended up there. Nobody let on that they were from the bottom of the hill."

Which tells you that people who lived on Scotswood road were considered bamps. The word we can safely say refers to Scotswood or Scotswood road, thats clearly where its derived from. So given the nature of the slums on the road, the word comes from people who used to live on the Scotswood road, which makes sense.

 

The reason why you want to make an argument about this is highlighted in bold above.

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You said it was "a phrase only people from the West End and beyond seem to know. I've said it to people from the coast and Wallsend and they think you're on about jocks." Shite

This was the start of your downfall in this thread. Do you understand what the word "seem" means? Seem in this instance, was used to describe my feelings on where this word is used. I don't use it as a definitive sentence. My understanding of it is mirrored by several people from the coast, Wallsend and the East End who have never heard of it. So my understanding of it quite clearly is not shite.

 

I'm not disputing its origin as neither i nor you knows. I admitted it was to wind you up in response to your claim no one from the coast knows the phrase. The logic was 'who the fuck knows where it comes from and as its derogatory it could be a word used by people outside of that specific area'. I'll help you with your case (see below) but that will make a mockery of your pedantry.

 

There's absolutely no need to be a patronising wank in this thread, I'll try not to lower myself to that level.

 

As for your wind up, quite clearly it wasn't a wind up, but it's something that you can use as a defence mechanism, over clear and present factual deficiencies.

 

I was the first person in this thread to connect the word to Scotswood, you were the one claiming you knew where the word came from and who used it. You made grand claims about a word, pretended you knew the intricacies of how its used across the region and thats the statement i said was shite. You're trying to claim some geographical nonsense when on, along or near all means the same and the distance you were talking about is measured in metres.

 

However, lets be clear about a few things. People used to say they lived in Benwell or Elswick as they didnt want to admit they lived on Scotswood road.

 

Which tells you that people who lived on Scotswood road were considered bamps. The word we can safely say refers to Scotswood or Scotswood road, thats clearly where its derived from. So given the nature of the slums on the road, the word comes from people who used to live on the Scotswood road, which makes sense.

 

The reason why you want to make an argument about this is highlighted in bold above.

The rest of this is just irrelevant bollocks and moving away from the major points. You still haven't answered my questions neither. Why is that?

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I lived in Hebburn, but knew of the word Scotchy mainly because I served the dregs of society in Bliss Nightclub on a Friday and Saturday night, and I used to hear their woeful patter at the end of the night once the music was off.

 

One time this bloke was giving a three sheets to the wind oration on macroeconomic policy in the former Soviet republic when he was rudely interrupted by one of the bouncers with the words "Here man ya pua scotchy cunt. Away back to Blyth before I give you a bunch of 5s."

 

Which may have been the very moment the word found its way out to the coast.

 

:lol:

 

Proper mintaz

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