The Fish 10430 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 True, never used it myself but certainly heard it being used. And apparently your young'uns heard it a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 And apparently your young'uns heard it a lot? I dunno, I didn't stalk them day and night when they were playing out, but they used it/said it as young'uns and young'uns tend to pick things up and then use them regularly, they must have heard it to use it. Your point is ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I dunno, I didn't stalk them day and night when they were playing out, but they used it/said it as young'uns and young'uns tend to pick things up and then use them regularly, they must have heard it to use it. Your point is ??? I was jokingly inferring your kids were "Scotchys", obviously Don't take things so seriously man. End of the day, I'm amazed that the origin of a fucking slang term has rumbled on for 2 days, when anecdotal evidence is (so far) the only tool either side is using to further their own argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31592 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If it's any help we used to say 'Dicksplash'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) I was jokingly inferring your kids were "Scotchys", obviously Don't take things so seriously man. End of the day, I'm amazed that the origin of a fucking slang term has rumbled on for 2 days, when anecdotal evidence is (so far) the only tool either side is using to further their own argument. Inference went wooosh sadly That said, it's hardly anecdotal when several folks outside the "sphere of Scotchie" (or Scotchy) have heard the word, despite one side of the arguments total denial. Edited October 12, 2012 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15115 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You should hear what we used to say about those High West Jesmond oiks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Inference went wooosh sadly That said, it's hardly anecdotal when several folks outside the "sphere of Scotchie" (or Scotchy) have heard the word, despite one side of the arguments total denial. Um, that is anecdotal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You should hear what we used to say about those High West Jesmond oiks. I can imagine what you used to say about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42647 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I now understand how Stevie fell out with his mate over Leon Best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Um, that is anecdotal Would stand up in court (under oath obviously) Edited October 12, 2012 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Would stand up in court (under oath obviously) That's irrelevant. My point is that both sides are using anecdotal evidence as the base for their argument. You'd have to collate hundreds of respondents to a carefully constructed survey to accurately place the origin of this term, if you insists on using nothing more than anecdotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21302 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Did anyone call kids that were into metal 'heavy sweaties' when they were younger? I thought it was a nationwide term of abuse but my mates down here had never heard of it. Then a mate from Pontland told me he wasn't familiar with it either. Anyone I recall from my school days was 'chos'. As in mint. I think that might have been a Washington thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That's irrelevant. My point is that both sides are using anecdotal evidence as the base for their argument. You'd have to collate hundreds of respondents to a carefully constructed survey to accurately place the origin of this term, if you insists on using nothing more than anecdotes. You have wrong end of the stick Fishy. The argument is not about the origin, (I wouldn't have a clue where it came from, I did put forward a tongue in cheek theory mind) the point is/was about a statement made along the lines that "no-one outside of the west end and definitely down the coast" had ever said/heard of said word, several persons outside of the west end have stated that is not the case, me amongst them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The wife is awake now and as a cullercoats lass she confirms that she would never use "scotchy", although when pressed for her understanding of what it meant she knew it was a charver. What sample size do we need to make this the official coastal "scotchy" awareness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6822 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I now understand how Stevie fell out with his mate over Leon Best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Growing up in Felling (23 Woodlands Terrace then 2 Heatherwell Green if you're particularly interested), we struggled to look down on anyone other than those from the Old Fold, which was actually called The Nest & Heather Grove was its main drag. I think those from the Old Fold used to look down on those from Saltmeadows; those from Saltmeadows had nowhere else to look..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I used to work on Saltmeadows. Was a canny bakery just down the road like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15115 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Did anyone call kids that were into metal 'heavy sweaties' when they were younger? I thought it was a nationwide term of abuse but my mates down here had never heard of it. Then a mate from Pontland told me he wasn't familiar with it either. Can't say we did. They just tended to get "peace, man" at regular intervals (because peace is a bad thing, obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7090 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Do you understand what the word "seem" means? ......... There's absolutely no need to be a patronising wank in this thread, I'll try not to lower myself to that level. Brilliant. Maybe next time eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4256 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Anyone else get the daily spam emails from the club/club shop? They're launching a "St James's Park" range of tat - shameless fat cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Returning for a moment to the knowledge/use of Scotchie/Scotchy at the coast. A straw poll of my coastal FB chums has an early score of 5-1 in favour of "knowing/heard of/used the word" the one "nay" in the poll is from my daughter in law......................................................................................................................................................................................................she's from the west end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I could ask 100 of my mates my age (hang, lets call that people I know) and I guarantee 100 would know it. As to whether it was ever used at the coast, Id say it was bound to have been as any local term generally spreads around the area. Oddly they seem to hit a shit wall when they get to Mackemland and a few terms they use I've never heard of. For example "panackelty" or however the fuck you spell it. Id never heard of it until I heard a mackem say it. Common south of the tyne Im told like Jarrow/Hebburn down to Shields etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I could ask 100 of my mates my age (hang, lets call that people I know) and I guarantee 100 would know it. As to whether it was ever used at the coast, Id say it was bound to have been as any local term generally spreads around the area. Oddly they seem to hit a shit wall when they get to Mackemland and a few terms they use I've never heard of. For example "panackelty" or however the fuck you spell it. Id never heard of it until I heard a mackem say it. Common south of the tyne Im told like Jarrow/Hebburn down to Shields etc. Never heard panackelty. Is it a fish dish?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1205 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Isn't it some sort of ham thing? I'm fairly sure Scotchy isn't used at all in Wallsend/North Shields area. I'll do a check with the lads tonight when I'm out although I think it's going to be mainly early twenties I'm out with so I don't know if that will impact it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Isn't it some sort of ham thing? I'm fairly sure Scotchy isn't used at all in Wallsend/North Shields area. I'll do a check with the lads tonight when I'm out although I think it's going to be mainly early twenties I'm out with so I don't know if that will impact it. Doubt it's used many places these days, been superceded by charva I reckon. Be interesting if your mates know it, my lads are mid/late 20's and they knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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