wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 So you're saying that because we cannot leave this planet, it is impossible to gauge the distance of objects that are not on this planet? That doesn't stand up to the most basic of scrutiny. I don't understand how you can so fervently believe something that is so flimsy? It makes no sense and for one as you who rates common sense above all else, I'd have thought that incongruous There lies the problem. Your common sense tells you they know the distances to planets based on trigonometry and triangulation and such, yet where planets are concerned, they don't know the size, they cannot measure the distance like they can measure distances on Earth. You are reading their calculations and going by them, so you immediately accept what they say but it's all guesswork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 There lies the problem. Your common sense tells you they know the distances to planets based on trigonometry and triangulation and such, yet where planets are concerned, they don't know the size, they cannot measure the distance like they can measure distances on Earth. You are reading their calculations and going by them, so you immediately accept what they say but it's all guesswork. What has the size of the planet got to do with triangulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 What has the size of the planet got to do with triangulation? Nothing, On Earth but in space, triangulation doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Nothing, On Earth but in space, triangulation doesn't work. Why not? What has the size of any object, anywhere got to do with triangulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Why not? What has the size of any object, anywhere got to do with triangulation? I've never said the size of any object had to do with triangulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I've never said the size of any object had to do with triangulation. Why are you lying? There lies the problem. Your common sense tells you they know the distances to planets based on trigonometry and triangulation and such, yet where planets are concerned, they don't know the size, they cannot measure the distance like they can measure distances on Earth. Now, what has size got to do with triangulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 In space triangulation does not work, now that should be common sense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 neither does screaming Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 In space triangulation does not work, now that should be common sense to you. Answer the question about size please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 neither does screaming This post was brought to you because of the excitement about Aliens: Colonial Marines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Answer the question about size please. I don't need to answer the question about size. I explained about the size and distance of something with the ball and you judging that distance. I didn't mention triangulation for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I don't need to answer the question about size. I explained about the size and distance of something with the ball and you judging that distance. I didn't mention triangulation for it. Do you understand how distance from two points can be measured using the triangulation method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Do you understand how distance from two points can be measured using the triangulation method? Of course I do , on Earth. It means jack shit where the planets and star distances are concerned on a so called spinning Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Of course I do , on Earth. It means jack shit where the planets and star distances are concerned on a so called spinning Earth. What has distance got to do with the basic premise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 What has distance got to do with the basic premise? The distance has a lot to do with what I'm talking about when it concerns planets and stars and the distances we are told they are in space.My argument is, they are simply best guessing and have no clue because there is no way the distance can be measured for ANY planet or moon for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 That's not an argument, that's a statement. An argument needs more depth to it. the concept of triangulation needs not take into account distance. . ._. . .________. . ._____________________________________________________________. exactly the same formula is used to ascertain the distances for each of these triangles and if I could draw a triangle between two points on Earth and the Moon, the same formula would be exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 That's not an argument, that's a statement. An argument needs more depth to it. the concept of triangulation needs not take into account distance. . ._. . .________. . ._____________________________________________________________. exactly the same formula is used to ascertain the distances for each of these triangles and if I could draw a triangle between two points on Earth and the Moon, the same formula would be exactly the same. The operative word you used is "IF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The operative word you used is "IF" No it's not. Shit, do I need to explain how to form an argument to you as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 No it's not. Shit, do I need to explain how to form an argument to you as well? You need to try and understand that you are going round in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 You need to try and understand that you are going round in circles. Am I, or is that just what you "believe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Am I, or is that just what you "believe" Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Both. I just enjoy pointing out how little you know, especially when you contradict yourself as quickly and as brazenly as you have done today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I just enjoy pointing out how little you know, especially when you contradict yourself as quickly and as brazenly as you have done today. I enjoy laughing at you when you try and point out stuff that's basically wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10526 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I enjoy laughing at you when you try and point out stuff that's basically wrong. See, the problem is, if you're the only person facing the world laughing, it's safe to say that your laughter is maniacal, rather than the laughter of a man "in the know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 See, the problem is, if you're the only person facing the world laughing, it's safe to say that your laughter is maniacal, rather than the laughter of a man "in the know". It's more of a giggle really Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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