rikko 20 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Here's your Nuclear reactor fuel rod assembly. As you can see, it's so dangerous, it can be handled without protective equipment and with the hands. One minute they are highly radioactive and the next they are emitting doses so low, it can be picked up and messed with. The beauty about official stories is, they can tell us anything because we haven't a clue and will just accept anything told to us, no matter how silly or illogical it sounds. These so called rods, after use, produce Plutonium as a by product for some reason and mixed with uranium , it apparently makes "WEAPONS GRADE" Uranium, which is extremely volatile we are told one minute, yet once assembled into a bomb, it's as docile as a new born puppy and you could probably run your tongue up and down it if you want. Yet slam it together and your city is toast. These so called Nuclear power plants do produce electricity , I believe that... but not by Nuclear but by the wastage of electricity which is then transferred through steam to generators , so in-fact it all looks and appears legitimate. Already answered most of those questions so I don't see the need to repeat myself. The fuel rods you have look like those used in a light water reactor, either a PWR or a BWR. The fuel used in them is pretty similar so I can't tell you which it is. There is lots of protective equipment in the photo. There is the integrity of the fuel cladding, the ventilation system, the lack of a moderator (this slows the neutrons) etc etc PPE (personal protective equipment) is the last resort for protecting people. When you go into an active area you basically wear the same outfit as the man behind the deli counter at morrisons and that's only there to stop you getting contaminated. If you go in an area with no contamination then you don't need any protective gear as in the picture above. You seem to be confusing spent nuclear fuel with weapons material. The stuff used in weapons has no spent fuel with it so is not highly active as I said earlier. In summary: New unused fuel: Essentially Not Active Used Fuel: Highly Active Weapons material: Contains no used fuel so is not active. Weapons grade uranium is for all intense purposes pure Uranium 235 it contains no Plutonium. Weapons grade Plutonium is for all intense purposes pure Pu239 it contains no uranium. You use one or the other. Not both. The scientific meaning of the word volatile means turns to a gas easily. Uranium and Plutonium, weapons grade or otherwise, is not volatile. It is fissile or fissionable depending on the specific isotope. If nuclear energy doesn't generate electricity what does? Wasted electric? To generate the amount of steam made in the nuclear reactors in the uk by electricity would take more electricity then the UK generates. Also how do the submarines work? Since there is no wasted electricity that can get to you if you are at the bottom of the ocean. In answer to the other question I am a Nuclear Engineer. I've designed facilities at Sellafield, refuelled reactors, written the safety justification for numerous parts of nuclear process plants and operated test systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10832 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Already answered most of those questions so I don't see the need to repeat myself. The fuel rods you have look like those used in a light water reactor, either a PWR or a BWR. The fuel used in them is pretty similar so I can't tell you which it is. There is lots of protective equipment in the photo. There is the integrity of the fuel cladding, the ventilation system, the lack of a moderator (this slows the neutrons) etc etc PPE (personal protective equipment) is the last resort for protecting people. When you go into an active area you basically wear the same outfit as the man behind the deli counter at morrisons and that's only there to stop you getting contaminated. If you go in an area with no contamination then you don't need any protective gear as in the picture above. You seem to be confusing spent nuclear fuel with weapons material. The stuff used in weapons has no spent fuel with it so is not highly active as I said earlier. In summary: New unused fuel: Essentially Not Active Used Fuel: Highly Active Weapons material: Contains no used fuel so is not active. Weapons grade uranium is for all intense purposes pure Uranium 235 it contains no Plutonium. Weapons grade Plutonium is for all intense purposes pure Pu239 it contains no uranium. You use one or the other. Not both. The scientific meaning of the word volatile means turns to a gas easily. Uranium and Plutonium, weapons grade or otherwise, is not volatile. It is fissile or fissionable depending on the specific isotope. If nuclear energy doesn't generate electricity what does? Wasted electric? To generate the amount of steam made in the nuclear reactors in the uk by electricity would take more electricity then the UK generates. Also how do the submarines work? Since there is no wasted electricity that can get to you if you are at the bottom of the ocean. In answer to the other question I am a Nuclear Engineer. I've designed facilities at Sellafield, refuelled reactors, written the safety justification for numerous parts of nuclear process plants and operated test systems. Yeah, that's as may be, but wolfy knows 100% that's nonsense. He also knows 100% that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to radio networks either, or Renton when it comes to medication. He knows all this without a scrap of evidence or even a reliable hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Already answered most of those questions so I don't see the need to repeat myself. The fuel rods you have look like those used in a light water reactor, either a PWR or a BWR. The fuel used in them is pretty similar so I can't tell you which it is. There is lots of protective equipment in the photo. There is the integrity of the fuel cladding, the ventilation system, the lack of a moderator (this slows the neutrons) etc etc PPE (personal protective equipment) is the last resort for protecting people. When you go into an active area you basically wear the same outfit as the man behind the deli counter at morrisons and that's only there to stop you getting contaminated. If you go in an area with no contamination then you don't need any protective gear as in the picture above. You seem to be confusing spent nuclear fuel with weapons material. The stuff used in weapons has no spent fuel with it so is not highly active as I said earlier. In summary: New unused fuel: Essentially Not Active Used Fuel: Highly Active Weapons material: Contains no used fuel so is not active. Weapons grade uranium is for all intense purposes pure Uranium 235 it contains no Plutonium. Weapons grade Plutonium is for all intense purposes pure Pu239 it contains no uranium. You use one or the other. Not both. The scientific meaning of the word volatile means turns to a gas easily. Uranium and Plutonium, weapons grade or otherwise, is not volatile. It is fissile or fissionable depending on the specific isotope. If nuclear energy doesn't generate electricity what does? Wasted electric? To generate the amount of steam made in the nuclear reactors in the uk by electricity would take more electricity then the UK generates. Also how do the submarines work? Since there is no wasted electricity that can get to you if you are at the bottom of the ocean. In answer to the other question I am a Nuclear Engineer. I've designed facilities at Sellafield, refuelled reactors, written the safety justification for numerous parts of nuclear process plants and operated test systems. I only have your word for that Rikko. I'm not saying you don't work in Nuclear something or other as there are thousands of people working in Nuclear plants and such but I would guess that very few of them know exactly what's happening inside those so called reactors. I don' t doubt that people see rods being loaded into them and whatever but I don;t believe most even know what the hell it really is. It could be elements used to heat the water up in those big so called reactors and passed off as Nuclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah, that's as may be, but wolfy knows 100% that's nonsense. He also knows 100% that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to radio networks either, or Renton when it comes to medication. He knows all this without a scrap of evidence or even a reliable hypothesis. I have no qualms about you knowing stuff about your radio network, I'm just saying that you've been told it all comes from satellites and naturally you believe that because , well why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikko 20 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 In other words, you have no reason to believe what you do. You just think that what others, each a specialist in their field, say is the truth is too complicated to be true? Yet you have no idea how any of it actually works and are unable to provide any credible solution as to how technology we have and use everyday actually works. So you prefer to believe in numerous massive conspiracy theories which are without doubt more complicated and reject the universally accepted solutions because in your words "well why not". Would you say that is a fair summary of your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44690 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 He has a penis where his nose should be. That is my summary of his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 In other words, you have no reason to believe what you do. You just think that what others, each a specialist in their field, say is the truth is too complicated to be true? Yet you have no idea how any of it actually works and are unable to provide any credible solution as to how technology we have and use everyday actually works. So you prefer to believe in numerous massive conspiracy theories which are without doubt more complicated and reject the universally accepted solutions because in your words "well why not". Would you say that is a fair summary of your position? Sort of, except I simply think that Nuclear power in how they say it works is absolute bullshit. Not because it's complicated, it's because it's made complicated so the average Joe doesn't question it.In fact those who profess to be Nuclear physicists are merely working from written bullshit and those that actually work in the industry haven't a clue what they're actually dealing with, except what they're told they're dealing with. It's all full on secret squirrel for obvious reasons. That's my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 He has a penis where his nose should be. That is my summary of his position. I admit that, yet I find it works better than having one in the centre of my forehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10832 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I have no qualms about you knowing stuff about your radio network, I'm just saying that you've been told it all comes from satellites and naturally you believe that because , well why not. No, I haven't, nor have I ever said that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikko 20 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Sort of, except I simply think that Nuclear power in how they say it works is absolute bullshit. Not because it's complicated, it's because it's made complicated so the average Joe doesn't question it. In fact those who profess to be Nuclear physicists are merely working from written bullshit and those that actually work in the industry haven't a clue what they're actually dealing with, except what they're told they're dealing with. It's all full on secret squirrel for obvious reasons. That's my take on it. So you think nuclear power and weapons are simple, but those pesky scientists deliberately make it complicated to intimidate the general public. Rather then it just actually being complicated. Care to explain why they do this? What's their motive? Extorting money from the government? Or is it the government in on it and using it to extort tax money from the general public? What do they spend this extra money on? Is the fact its bullshit why the USA, UK, France and the other so called nuclear powers are desperate to prevent Iran getting it? Because Iran is in fact the saviour of us all and will expose the truth (whilst brutally opressing everyone who lives there). Also why hasn't the likes of North Korea exposed it as bollocks as they have successfully developed nuclear bombs? Are they in on it too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 So you think nuclear power and weapons are simple, but those pesky scientists deliberately make it complicated to intimidate the general public. Rather then it just actually being complicated. Care to explain why they do this? What's their motive? Extorting money from the government? Or is it the government in on it and using it to extort tax money from the general public? What do they spend this extra money on? Is the fact its bullshit why the USA, UK, France and the other so called nuclear powers are desperate to prevent Iran getting it? Because Iran is in fact the saviour of us all and will expose the truth (whilst brutally opressing everyone who lives there). Also why hasn't the likes of North Korea exposed it as bollocks as they have successfully developed nuclear bombs? Are they in on it too? I don't think the guise of Nuclear power is simple. I say Nuclear power IN how they portray it is an absolute pile of shit to be blunt. Do I really need to explain the extortion from the public to orchestrate this scam as it pretty evident in terms of taxes considering the cost to implement the making of it and the cost of the so called decommisioning it. One minute it's so toxic to handle and the next it's fine if you wear a frigging Morrisons type overall. It's a massive piss take and most people accept it because that's how we are geared. Where did you do your university studies in Nuclear science if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 No, I haven't, nor have I ever said that was the case. Can you elaborate on this as I don;t know exactly what you are getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10832 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Can you elaborate on this as I don;t know exactly what you are getting at. Jesus Christ. Ok, You said "I have no qualms about you knowing stuff about your radio network, I'm just saying that you've been told it all comes from satellites and naturally you believe that because , well why not." I have never said that I've been told that "it all comes from satellites." and I've never said that the radio network I manage all comes from satellites myself either. Do you understand now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Jesus Christ. Ok, You said "I have no qualms about you knowing stuff about your radio network, I'm just saying that you've been told it all comes from satellites and naturally you believe that because , well why not." I have never said that I've been told that "it all comes from satellites." and I've never said that the radio network I manage all comes from satellites myself either. Do you understand now? Yes!So you got your job to monitor vehicles in your area because you knew about satellites and how it monitors vehicles in your area right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Still trying to work out if those who believe all these conspiracy theories are thick people trying to look clever or reasonably intelligent people trying to look interesting. The superiority complex is definitely the most annoying part, very similar to the religious nutters who claim everyone who doesn't believe their strange cult will go to hell and they gain genuine (psychotic) enjoyment from this belief. Edited August 28, 2012 by Gejon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Still trying to work out if those who believe all these conspiracy theories are thick people trying to look clever or reasonably intelligent people trying to look interesting. The superiority complex is definitely the most frustrating thing of all, very similar to the religious nutters who claim everyone who doesn't believe their strange cult will go to hell and gain genuine enjoyment from this belief. Until us mere mortals of planet Earth and run by the top boys, actually get a horses mouth answer , we will always be left in the dark as to the real reasons, yet we will continue to be schooled by their thought until such time as the masses, (those who swallow anything official) wake up and smell the coffee. Basically, if you can be hypnotised at a stage event in your local pub. club, arena, then you are basically never gonna open your mind to anything other than what you are programmed to think. Any person that thinks different to this and isn't easily swayed, is simple termed a nut case. For what reason? Simple! they question the official stories told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10832 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yes! So you got your job to monitor vehicles in your area because you knew about satellites and how it monitors vehicles in your area right? Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Until us mere mortals of planet Earth and run by the top boys, actually get a horses mouth answer , we will always be left in the dark as to the real reasons, yet we will continue to be schooled by their thought until such time as the masses, (those who swallow anything official) wake up and smell the coffee. Basically, if you can be hypnotised at a stage event in your local pub. club, arena, then you are basically never gonna open your mind to anything other than what you are programmed to think. Any person that thinks different to this and isn't easily swayed, is simple termed a nut case. For what reason? Simple! they question the official stories told. They question the official stories told to look intelligent, or they believe they do and aren't just a silly sheep that is happy to go along with that silly logic nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I don't exactly know what goes on in Nuclear power stations as in what is really happening inside those big so called reactors but I do not believe it's a load of uranium pellets just magically fissioning and glowing, creating the steam for turbines. I understand how people accept it for what they are told because , how can we prove otherwise? Someone purporting to be a 'Nuclear physicist' can study the equations and the set up of graphs and drawings, plus models of atoms and do all the complicated maths to fit it all, yet in reality, they don't actually physically know what it all means. It's like God. We are all told about God and most are brought up to believe in him and we have bibles telling us about what he did, yet people go along with it all because , well , that's what they were taught to do. When you question someone who appears to know all about Nuclear power, they concoct every scenario up to counteract anything said against it and it's always super head busting complications of mathematics to throw anyone off bothering to ask again. Take a look at your super dense so called Uranium. One minute it's as mild as hell and causes no problems, then it fissions for a few years and then it's so highly toxic , the radiation melts your frigging wellies lol They say that weapons grade Uranium is made from the decayed Uranium inside Nuclear power stations. Now this stuff when smacked together, wipes out cities allegedly. Also, this super dense Uranium can be COATED onto artillery shells making them super armour piercing tough. A dense metal like gold, lead, silver and such is soft , easily melted, yet uranium even though it looks exactly like lead (guffaw guffaw) is super hard yet is as dense as hell. hmmmmmm. Magical planet Earth, the Earth that can produce magic to suit the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7019 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 So have we figured out which WUM Fish has spent 78 pages arguing with yet? KSA? Alex? Pud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21526 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 You're just repeating yourself now. If you're too thick to understand the principles of nuclear physics, even though they have been clearly explained to you by someone in the field, then that's your problem, no one else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10832 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) So have we figured out which WUM Fish has spent 78 pages arguing with yet? KSA? Alex? Pud? I'm hardly arguing with him any more, just occasionally laughing at him. Renton's the worst offender. Edited August 29, 2012 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21526 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I admit I like the odd conspiracy debate but this is getting boring now. It's like arguing with a turnip. Wolfy's word count must be very high; if he's a Wum he's a sad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 So have we figured out which WUM Fish has spent 78 pages arguing with yet? KSA? Alex? Pud? I'm just me , no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 You're just repeating yourself now. If you're too thick to understand the principles of nuclear physics, even though they have been clearly explained to you by someone in the field, then that's your problem, no one else's. Explaining the magic of Nuclear power is fine, it's no different to explaining the magic of men on the moon or a little R2D2 skidding about on Mars, knocking out a few Will, I. am tracks lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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