wolfy 12 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:20, Monkeys Fist said: Silly me. Because they sent the Apollo missions up tied to big fucking whizz bang, of course. They didn't send anything into space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:11, wolfy said: The thing that disproves space travel for me is the fact that rockets cannot work in the vacuum of space. How do you know space is a vacuum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:20, Monkeys Fist said: Silly me. Because they sent the Apollo missions up tied to big fucking whizz bang, of course. Same principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43713 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43713 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:22, jonasjuice said: Same principles. Bigger sandbox, somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22523 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I find it a bit ironic that all the board's members are between Parky (interplanetary travel a piece of piss) and wolfy (space travel fundamentally impossible) in the conspiracy stakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:22, BigWalrus said: How do you know space is a vacuum? I don't! If it isn't though, then N.A.S.A and the rest have based all their pretend space missions on space being a vacuum, so one way or the other they are lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:25, Renton said: I find it a bit ironic that all the board's members are between Parky (interplanetary travel a piece of piss) and wolfy (space travel fundamentally impossible) in the conspiracy stakes. Everybody has their own thoughts. It would be a boring world if everyone thought the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:19, jonasjuice said: Have you ever tried lighting a firework in a dyson ya phucking Gabby gullible?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 So let's assume space is a vacuum (it is). Why can't a rocket work in a vacuum? It's a pressurised, sealed environment and that pressure wants to escape. When the pressure escapes, the rocket moves. It doesn't make any difference whether it's in a vacuum or not, other than there's less gravitational pull as you get further from the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43713 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:25, Renton said: I find it a bit ironic that all the board's members are between Parky (interplanetary travel a piece of piss) and wolfy (space travel fundamentally impossible) in the conspiracy stakes. From the sublime to the ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:30, BigWalrus said: So let's assume space is a vacuum (it is). Why can't a rocket work in a vacuum? It's a pressurised, sealed environment and that pressure wants to escape. When the pressure escapes, the rocket moves. It doesn't make any difference whether it's in a vacuum or not, other than there's less gravitational pull as you get further from the earth. So what is the rocket pushing against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I found this thread http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1791934/pg12 It's almost a carbon copy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:31, wolfy said: So what is the rocket pushing against? What is pushing against the rocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:22, BigWalrus said: How do you know space is a vacuum? It isn't really a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:30, Monkeys Fist said: From the sublime to the ridiculous. What do you fukin know about it?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:32, BigWalrus said: What is pushing against the rocket? No!What is the rocket fuel pushing against to make it move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:32, BigWalrus said: What is pushing against the rocket? The fuel and rocket mass plus inertia is how it works in space. If someting hits space it carries on moving at the same speed it hit the space threshold at. Infact it speeds up over time....Einstein had trouble with this so I forgive Wolfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4934 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Its still quite bizarre that in 42 years we've never been back. Of course some will say cost or we've been there done it etc. but I just dont buy that. According to what we are told, the expensive bit is getting something into space. Therefore there is no reason why one of the many shuttles that have been launched couldnt have popped over. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43713 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:33, Park Life said: What do you fukin know about it?!!! Just Gabby Gullible here, you tell me what know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:32, Park Life said: It isn't really a vacuum. Well, I know it's not pure vacuum, but for the purposes of this thread it might as well be (has a nice parallel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43713 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:35, Christmas Tree said: Its still quite bizarre that in 42 years we've never been back. Of course some will say cost or we've been there done it etc. but I just dont buy that. According to what we are told, the expensive bit is getting something into space. Therefore there is no reason why one of the many shuttles that have been launched couldnt have popped over. Bizarre. You obviously haven't seen Apollo 18 Do keep up Tubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:35, Christmas Tree said: Its still quite bizarre that in 42 years we've never been back. Of course some will say cost or we've been there done it etc. but I just dont buy that. According to what we are told, the expensive bit is getting something into space. Therefore there is no reason why one of the many shuttles that have been launched couldnt have popped over. Bizarre. Shuttles were costing 500m$ per launch. Booster, tiles and other bits needed replacing every time (took 6 months at least). Shit design cause the airforce designed the heavy wings the clowns + Govt contracts are always 100x more expensive...etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:35, wolfy said: No! What is the rocket fuel pushing against to make it move? It pushes against the rocket's body itself, and the easiest path is straight out of the bottom of the rocket. As you're in a vacuum, there's nothing to push back the other way, and you accelerate freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 On 14/08/2012 at 22:37, BigWalrus said: Well, I know it's not pure vacuum, but for the purposes of this thread it might as well be (has a nice parallel) Remember when they were planning a tether to the ISS. Really you couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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