Dogs.

[Gemmill 44805]

Look, I think we have the wool pulled over our eyes constantly by the govt, and the more the Internet age exposes it, the more you realise they've been playing us for mugs for years, and still haven't quite got wise to the fact that those as are over.

 

But this isn't just the govt, you're asking us to believe that the entire science community is in on this one as well. And no one is breaking ranks.

 

Just shut up.

 

[The Fish 10849]

1. I have never said the suns heat cannot radiate through a vacuum...
   
2. I said the components of a so called satellite would heat up and could not dissipate as their is no air to cool them.
   
3. The sun (possibly) radiates ray as in infra red.
   
4. Now we are told by the scientists that the vacuum of space is neither hot nor cold and is basically nothing and they have so called cooling back packs in Astronots suits to keep them cool with their BODYHEAT..
   
5. What does a satellite have???????
   

1. you realise that radiating is so similar to dissipation it's not worth arguing the differences, right? The Sun Radiates heat and that heat dissipates throughout the solar system (and the universe)
   
2. the satellites would radiate (or dissipate) heat in much the same way
   
3. What you feel as heat or see as light is merely energy, the Sun radiates all kinds of energy, as does fire, as do you. However Infra Red isn't a form of heat.
   
4. The Astronauts have cooling packs because when they're in the full glare of the Sun, they're incredibly hot and when they're in the shadows, they're incredibly cool, so I'd wager they have ways of keeping themselves cool, too.
   
5. A Satellite will have methods of maintaining within it's optimum temperature range (that's quite a range etc.)
   

Any more Questions?

[Meenzer 15518]

Just shut up.

 

That's what THEY want us to do

[Ciatmol 0]

What evidence?

 

The only evidence we have is the word of N.A.S.A and the likes.

I've seen people put pictures up of a so called ISS and some of them are laughable to be honest.

 

Anything we receive on Earth transmission wise can easily be done on Earth.

 

I'm going to ask you a question and I want you to think about it very carefully. The answer to this question will shape the rest of our conversation throughout this thread.

 

Have you ever met, had a conversation with or woken up in the vicinity of either Walter Freeman or James W Watts?

 

It's very important that I know the answer to this so that I know how to proceed.

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

Has CT got a special needs brother?

[ChezGiven 0]

How do i speak to my mate in New Zealand if its not by satellite then?

 

I

[Gemmill 44805]

How do you know he's in New Zealand?

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

No.

 

There there. Everything is fine now.

[ChezGiven 0]

By a relay of transmitters , it's not difficult.

Explain how it works then if its not difficult?

[The Fish 10849]

I think you are missing something.

The vacuum of space is neither hot, nor cold because it alone is empty space mainly.

 

Once you put something into that space, for example, a so called satellite, it would not only heat up by it's components but also by the sun reflecting onto it which at 24,000 miles out would basically render it toast.

 

Hang on, either heat can pass through a vacuum or it can't; which one is it?

[Meenzer 15518]

This subject is only controversial if you're a cont.

[Ciatmol 0]

 

There there. Everything is fine now.

 

 

Thank you sir for your insight. I haven't been here long but I can tell we're going to get along!

 

As for you Mr Wolf I hope you accept my previous post in the light hearted manner in which it was meant and although I will follow your wonderful thread I fear I can no longer contribute anything meaningful to it. It is clear that reason and sound judgement have no place in this conversation.

 

I wish you well and I hope that the Bogey man was not overly offended by your light dismissal of his existence (He can be very mean when his existence is called into question).

 

[ChezGiven 0]

I don't think I need to explain how transmitters work mate, just look at cell towers and that should give you a clear insight.

When you move out of range of one, another picks it up, now someone wanting to talk to you has to put a country dialling code in so these transmitters can relay that call to you or you to your friend.

So what route does this signal take from the UK to New Zealand?

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

 

So what route does this signal take from the UK to New Zealand?

Turn right at the second so-called star, Straight on til morning.

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

Pfft, undersea cables?

Have ever seen one ?

[ChezGiven 0]

Turn right at the second so-called star, Straight on til morning.

If its going transmitter tower to transmitter tower around the curvature of the earth, then it needs to go across the middle east, into India and then somehow all the way to Indonesia, over to Australia and then to NZ. The logistics of this, the sheer enormity of the signalling problems it can cause, the upkeep required on towers in places like Syria, Iran etc, i'm surprised someone hasnt invented some sort of satellite system to get around all these issues.

[ChezGiven 0]

Look up undersea cables mate and you will see how it's all done.

It simply links countries to countries then data transmitted across it and undersea again and so on and so on all around the world.

There's a cable from the UK to New Zealand :lol:

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

Did I say there was ?

 

I said cables run from various oceans to various countries and then to transmitters in those countries in a relay and then over another sea into another country, like an up and under leap frog of cable then tower..

How many magic gnomes would it take to maintain that man?

[Park Life 71]

Russia has subs designated to cut the undersea Atlantic cable between the UK and USA in case of war.

 

"The world's internet network has been damaged by an anchor landing on a key cable where it hits Kenya – the East African Marine System. The undersea cables are a remarkably historic but efficient way of supporting the information age, and their network is everywhere. This map from telecom data specialists Telegeography shows the full extent of that network. Zoom in, out and around the map or click on the navigation on the right to explore it.."

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/datablog/interactive/2012/feb/28/undersea-internet-cable-map-interactive

 

[The Fish 10849]

1. It can pass through a vacuum as in suns rays hitting our atmosphere but the sun doesn't cool down does it.
   
2. It's different to components in a machine as they need AIR to cool them down as in a fan to dissipate energy and space has no air so the components would simply burn out.
   

1. Again, this isn't answering my question.
   
2. No, they don't. What properties do air molecules have that allow things to cool? What properties does the heat you insist is created by components have, that the heat created by the Sun does not?
   

Isn't Branson selling trips into space? that'll get embarrassing...

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

It'll be fucking hot/cold/inert.

[Bonamental 0]

This thread is wonderful. I applaud you on your wummery.

[Monkeys Fist 42379]

I'm off to watch the match on Undersea Cable Telly.

[Park Life 71]

The Branson thing isn't into space at all. "Edge of space".