Brock Manson 0 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Looks like Arsenal have agreed a fee for Giroud. £12m apparently. Another one of our targets (at one point anyway) not coming to the club... There must be a striker lined up as it was definitely a problem in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The French Grant Holt according to some nimrod on the ITV commentary team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The French Grant Holt according to some nimrod on the ITV commentary team. The lack of knowledge about the foreign leagues is embarrassing isn't it? Shearer saying "We'd never heard of Ben Arfa" had me physically wincing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Wigan turn down Chelski bid for Victor Moses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fuck me, 3 good months gets you a long way these days. Surprised Llorente hasn't been linked with more clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 he didn't say that did he? jesus wept After the everton goal iirc This is why a lot of fans Think theyd be better pundits and they're not wrong, people watch Spanish, Italian, French, Dutch etc etc football cause they love it, I don't buy for a second that the guys on MotD know owt about foreign players who arent in the champions league every season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Fuck me, 3 good months gets you a long way these days. Surprised Llorente hasn't been linked with more clubs 29 goals in 53 games. Must've been an unbelievable 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 29 goals in 53 games. Must've been an unbelievable 3 months. Think he was referring to Moses with the 3 months thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 After the everton goal iirc This is why a lot of fans Think theyd be better pundits and they're not wrong, people watch Spanish, Italian, French, Dutch etc etc football cause they love it, I don't buy for a second that the guys on MotD know owt about foreign players who arent in the champions league every season I don't see how knowledge of foreign players makes anyone a better pundit. You just give a view on the game as is - adding "that's how he played for x" is meaningless to me. That doesn't mean I think Shearer is good or anything but I find the FIFA 2012 type "knowledge" a bit Boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Think he was referring to Moses with the 3 months thing Ain't it funny how people read things differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I don't see how knowledge of foreign players makes anyone a better pundit. You just give a view on the game as is - adding "that's how he played for x" is meaningless to me. That doesn't mean I think Shearer is good or anything but I find the FIFA 2012 type "knowledge" a bit Boring. Greater knowledge of the game outside the country. Pundits aren't revealing any tactical/coaching knowledge the majority of watchers aren't all aware of and they're certainly not there for their charisma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I don't see how knowledge of foreign players makes anyone a better pundit. You just give a view on the game as is - adding "that's how he played for x" is meaningless to me. That doesn't mean I think Shearer is good or anything but I find the FIFA 2012 type "knowledge" a bit Boring. The same way knowing lots about a variety of films makes you better at judging whether a movie is good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I don't see how knowledge of foreign players makes anyone a better pundit. You just give a view on the game as is - adding "that's how he played for x" is meaningless to me. That doesn't mean I think Shearer is good or anything but I find the FIFA 2012 type "knowledge" a bit Boring. Surly knowing and having seeing them play though you can tell if they are having a poor game or are just generally shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The same way knowing lots about a variety of films makes you better at judging whether a movie is good or not. Don't agree. I rarely watch Rom-coms, westerns or war films but that doesn't make my opinion on say Prometheus any less valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Surly knowing and having seeing them play though you can tell if they are having a poor game or are just generally shit? The past is the past - I concluded after 2 or 3 games that Obertan is shit - I don't care what he did anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Don't agree. I rarely watch Rom-coms, westerns or war films but that doesn't make my opinion on say Prometheus any less valid. Do you profess to be an expert voice on film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Do you profess to be an expert voice on film? No but it depends how broad the subject is. If I was invited for example to be a reviewer of cult/sci-fi tv shows I could hold my own without having watched vast swathes of other genres. I think you can comment on English football games (especially having played at that level in most pundits case) without knowing who the top players in other leagues are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And what About euro championship games? Europa or CL games? World cup games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 No but it depends how broad the subject is. If I was invited for example to be a reviewer of cult/sci-fi tv shows I could hold my own without having watched vast swathes of other genres. I think you can comment on English football games (especially having played at that level in most pundits case) without knowing who the top players in other leagues are. However if there are others out there who have your knowledge, plus a whole load more, surely they'd be a better choice to cover the topic? It also provides perspective; if you were to look at the Scottish Premier League in isolation, you might be under the impression that Hooper is a great striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 And what About euro championship games? Europa or CL games? World cup games? Well I was mainly responding to criticism of Shearer re Ben Arfa but I think up to a point you can give an opinion based on an initial view of someone which is reasonable. I don't think anyone has demonstrated the wide ranging knowledge you imply is needed but that doesn't mean all punditry is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Seedorf tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Seedorf can do no wrong. I like Martinez (ITV) too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 TRANSFER GOSSIP AC Milan are considering a move for Liverpool's 29-year-old Spanish goalkeeper Pepe Reina. Full story: Daily Mail Barcelona want a new defender and have Arsenal's Thomas Vermaelen, 26, Manchester City's Vincent Kompany, 26, and Chelsea's David Luiz, 25, on their hit-list if they are unable to sign their No.1 target, Athletic Bilbao's Javi Martinez, 23. Full story: Daily Mirror Manchester City midfielder Nigel De Jong, 27, who has one year left on his contract, says he is unsure about his future despite signalling his desire to stay at the Premier League champions. Full story: the Sun AC Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani has ruled out a move for Manchester City, Italy and former Inter Milan striker Mario Balotelli, 21. AC Milan could make a move for Pepe Reina Full story: talkSPORT Sunderland are winning the race to sign striker Louis Saha, 33, who is a free agent after leaving Tottenham, ahead of interest from the Middle East. Full story: Daily Mirror West Ham have upped their bid to land Grant Holt, 31, to £5.5m after seeing a £3m offer rejected by Norwich. Full story: the Sun Newcastle are ready to seal a deal for FC Twente striker Luuk de Jong, 21, by paying £9m but have failed to sign France right-back Mathieu Debuchy, 26, from Lille. Full story: Daily Mail Clint Hill, 33, signs a one-year deal at QPR - snubbing a switch to Leeds. Full story: the Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Grant Holt is every bit the Allardyce signing. I'd hate to be a hammers season ticket holder and see the shite they'll be serving up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Looks like Saha to SAFC. 33 years old! I'd Love it if they ended up with him and Fletcher and we start the season with Ba, Cisse and De Jong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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