rogerbarton 24 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas splits the fans? Only come across about three nutcase loons who don't love the bloke and the work he puts in for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas splits the fans? Only come across about three nutcase loons who don't love the bloke and the work he puts in for the team. Again, no one mentioned love or work rate, just creativity on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas splits the fans? Only come across about three nutcase loons who don't love the bloke and the work he puts in for the team. Again, no one mentioned love or work rate, just creativity on the wing. Do you ever consider his importance in the context of the team though or merely in the sense that he's not Stanley Matthews? We're not a good enough team to play unbridled free flowing football (not meant pejoratively, just specifically mean we wouldn't be as high as we are if we did). A massive part of our game is about work ethic. Need to get away from the idea he's some sort of cart horse too just because he doesnt put it on the strikers head from the touchline. Hardly any goals are scored that way in truth. What's worse, this acceptance that his crosses are less than world beating has somehow become shorthand for him not being able to play any sort of forward pass at all, which is just patent nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 I have said many times there are some games when his defensive duties have been much needed, particularly when Rtaylor was covering left back. As I keep saying it's his attacking ability which is poor. Let's move the argument on. We are now doing better playing 433, particularly IMO when Guthrie, Tiote and Cabaye are the midfield three. Let's say injuries have all cleared up and we go 433 against Stoke. Would people rather have Jonas in the midfield three or Guthrie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Id rather have Jonas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Jonas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER (Also Jonas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 Football manager no nowts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22149 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I also appreciate Jonas as much as the next supporter, but his legs are going and compared to ben arfa he offers the square root of fuck all going forward. For the time being he is a solid performer, but looking into the horizon we would do well to look for a winger with a bit more... venom offensively. He is still reasonably young and thus worth money...just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/93805/kazenga-lualua?cc=5739 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra For every right prediction you have been wrong more than double that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGATRON1000 0 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra This is the start of the slippery slope to Leazes-dom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22149 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra aye, you're always right aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46030 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT will have also made the opposing prediction to all of the above in a different thread. Usually the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation or when I said we'd do well our first season back or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew or when I said Ashley would make the club a success or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra aye, you're always right aren't you? Always is a tad strong..........I prefer usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 CT, you're definitely in the minority regarding your views about jonas. Most of us love him - he's been one of our best players this season and is new vice captain on merit. I'd have him in the middle of midfield ahead of Guthrie too, but only just. As I was when I welcomed Hughton in the Job -you also complained bitterly about it or when I said we'd come straight back up following relegation -you also said we wouldnt or when I said we'd do well our first season back -you also said we wouldnt or when I agreed with the decision to replace Hughton with Pardew -you also complained bitterly about it or when I said Ashley would make the club a success -you also said he wouldnt or when I told NUSC to buy a pub etc etc et fucking cetra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The minority said we'd come straight back up following relegation, are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 The minority said we'd come straight back up following relegation, are you sure about that? It was slash your wrists time. Most had us doing a Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10964 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The minority said we'd come straight back up following relegation, are you sure about that? It was slash your wrists time. Most had us doing a Leeds. I think that's overstating it somehwhat CT, I think the majority said we'd not be promoted, but we'd be mid-table. Also, this statement was made when we were expecting to lose Coloccini, Jonas among others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The minority said we'd come straight back up following relegation, are you sure about that? Quite funny really, i guessed that the summer of 2009 was 90 pages ago and these are the first 2 threads I clicked on. http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/24583-well-need-at-least-86-points-next-season/ http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/24612-realistic-finishing-position-next-season/ And then just randomly thought I'd bump this thread where Luke seems to claim to have shagged and dumped Ashley's daughter. http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/24034-this-girl-im-seeing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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