Besty 4 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So we just don't want Everton to win the whole thing really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So we just don't want Everton to win the whole thing really. What if Chelsea wins the CL and FA cup, and Everton are the runners up. Eh eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It doesnt matter if Chelsea win the Champions League, it doesnt effect us at all. You have to be in the top 4 to qualify for the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 What happens if we come 8th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Jesus people love to overcomplicate things. It doesnt matter if Chelsea win the Champions League, it doesnt effect us at all. You have to be in the top 4 to qualify for the Champions League. They would qualify for the CL if they won it for the record, 4th place would miss out. Changed after the Liverpool palava. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It doesnt matter if Chelsea win the Champions League, it doesnt effect us at all. You have to be in the top 4 to qualify for the Champions League. Not if Chelsea win it and finish outside of the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Are we mathematically safe from relegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 The longer this thread get the less likely we'll get into Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 He says adding to its length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Oh fuck it. Let's have this discussion with one match to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 And for every game before then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Dave 0 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7485 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'll go on record and say there is no chance that Chelsea will win the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Europe is overrated anyway. A mackem told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It doesnt matter if Chelsea win the Champions League, it doesnt effect us at all. You have to be in the top 4 to qualify for the Champions League. Not if Chelsea win it and finish outside of the top 4. Really? I'm sure that even if you win it and don't qualify via the league you dont get in, as they'd have to replace a team from somewhere in the earlier stages and it caused to much of a caffuffle doing that last time with Liverpool. Also they don't let the winner of the World Cup qualify for the next tournament, they still have to go through the qualifying stages, so I'm not sure why there should be an exception for the Champions League? So I'm just gonna sit here in me ignorance and believe I'm right until Blatter or Platini get back to is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I can see your point, you're still wrong though The winners will always qualify at the expense of the fourth placed team. This was clarified after the Liverpool situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Just read this on a yahoo answers thingymijjigy and my head hurts trying to make sense of it I still don't know if I'm wrong or right In any English Premier League season to date, fifth place in the English Premier League has not yielded qualification for the UEFA Champions League, and the same is true in the 2010/2011 English Premier League season. I suspect that you are recalling the occasion in 2005 when Liverpool won the UEFA Champions League and finished in fifth place in the 2004 / 2005 English Premier League - outside of the English Premier League qualification places. This left UEFA in the awkward situation whereby the holders were unable to defend their title. The English Premier League were not willing to swap Liverpool with the lowest placed UEFA Champions League qualifier, as in that season this team was Everton - Liverpool's local rivals! In the end, Liverpool were given special dispensation to enter the UEFA Champions League by UEFA but: (a) They had to enter at the first qualification round - much earlier than English teams normally do and ( They were not entitled to FA protection, meaning they could play English teams at any stage of the competition - under normal circumstances representatives from a country could only play each other from the quarter finals onwards Also, UEFA quickly drafted in a rule whereby (should this occur in the future) the lowest UEFA Champions League qualifier from a country would have to be replaced by the holders of the competition should they not qualify for the UEFA Champions League by virtue of their league position. For the 2010 / 2011 English Premier League season: UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE The top three teams in the English Premier League will automatically qualify for the Group Stage of the UEFA Champions League The team who finishes fourth in the English Premier League will enter the final qualification round for the Group Stage of the UEFA Champions League: > If they win that tie, they go into the Group Stage of the UEFA Champions League > If they lose that tie, they go into the UEFA Europa League UEFA EUROPA LEAGUE As well as the above, England gets three Europa League places, which at the start of the season are provisioned as follows: (a) One place to the 5th placed team in English Premier League ( One place to the League Cup winners © One place to the FA Cup winners (or runners-up if winners qualify for UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League through their league position) Whilst this is the theoretical allocation, in a lot of years one or both of the following occur: > The League Cup is won by a UEFA Champions League Qualifier > The FA Cup is won by a UEFA Champions League Qualifier, and the runner-up is also a UEFA Champions League Qualifier When either of these happen, the UEFA Europa League place then goes to the next highest placed finisher in the English Premier League rather than the provisioned recipient. For this reason, the lowest English Premier League position that qualifies for the Europa League varies a great deal and is dependent upon who wins the League Cup and who reaches the final of the FA Cup. In the 2010 / 2011 season (correct as at the time of writing): (a) The team who finishes in 5th place in the English Premier League is still to be determined ( Birmingham City have won the League Cup, and therefore have earned that UEFA Europa League place © Either Bolton Wanderers or Stoke City will almost certainly earn the UEFA Europa League place assigned to the FA Cup. This is because: > They are due to meet in an FA Cup semi-final, meaning one will reach the FA Cup Final and > The two teams in the other FA Cup semi-final - Manchester City and Manchester United - are extremely likely to qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League by virtue of their English Premier League position As per the above, Liverpool will: > Need to finish in fourth place or higher in the English Premier League to qualify for the UEFA Champions League, and > Becuase of the above, need to finish in fifth place to qualify for the UEFA Europa League Based on the English Premier League table at the time of writing, neither of the above are likely to occur, thus meaning that Liverpool will not qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League by virtue of their English Premier league position in the 2010 / 2011 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 FFS I'm not reading that. HF needs to turn it into a graph or pie chart or summink for the mentally challenged amongst us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Surely Deaders could bullet point it for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 FFS I'm not reading that. HF needs to turn it into a graph or pie chart or summink for the mentally challenged amongst us. I've not read the thread, but I think it would need to be a Venn diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Which outlansdish criteria do I need to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Which outlansdish criteria do I need to add? Haha, go on... Chelsea winning the Champions League and NUFC finishing 4th (Europa League) 5th would not apply for Europa if Chelsea finished in 6th, won the Champions League and Everton won the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Barcelona or Real Madrid will win the European Cup. NUFC will finish 6th. I haven't the foggiest who will win the FA Cup, if its Everton then we lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Haha, go on... Chelsea winning the Champions League and NUFC finishing 4th (Europa League) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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