Alex 34821 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, The Fish said: What was the point tally for 4th bottom though? If only there was some resource available where you could find that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Alex said: If only there was some resource available where you could find that out Found it myself, you jackanape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Found it myself, you jackanape. Congratulations, you lugubrious popinjay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1221 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Don't let him drag you down to his level Alex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30238 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Â He can't even give it away. Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 it gets better every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30238 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Unfortunately for them it shows how desperate he is to get rid. So much so that administration might be a real possibility if no one comes forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21809 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I feel a bit sorry for them. almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7070 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'll give them £50 for Stokoe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I feel a bit sorry for them. almost I'm not sure how bad it will have to get for me to even approach feeling sorry for them but it's probably a few divisions below league one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Couldn't give the cunts away, what a fucking sham they really are  Not sure anyone could write this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11306 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 They would, on the whole, happily take relegation this year if it meant we went down too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 15 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: Couldn't give the cunts away, what a fucking sham they really are  Not sure anyone could write this. I actually don't think there'll be any takers. He's going to have to pay somebody to take them off his hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Wonder if it's a sign that the external creditor might call their loan in when they go down again, forcing them into administration and jeopardising the money owed to himself by the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Had a quick look over there and there's a thread about Mags giving them sympathy (and them mostly not wanting it) in which many of them are claiming we're obsessed with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 They've got a point, I'll personally be absolutely gutted if they survive relegation. Not as gutted as they'd be if Benitez signed a new contract like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/defoe-could-be-back-to-play-against-the-mags.1419689/Â Â Â Love how that never better than average cunt has been shit at Bournemouth. They made out he was world class, best striker they'd ever seen play for them, better than Sewpa Kev etc and he's gone to Bournemouth and even before his injury been a benchwarmer. The excessive praise he got off of them for his weird relationship with that poorly kid made me sick as well. IAlmost as if they were over-compensating, to scream to the country that they're child-friendly after noncegate. Â Edited February 23, 2018 by TheGingerQuiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: They've got a point, I'll personally be absolutely gutted if they survive relegation. Not as gutted as they'd be if Benitez signed a new contract like. It's slightly ironic that it's in yet another thread about their rivals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/defoe-could-be-back-to-play-against-the-mags.1419689/   Love how that never better than average cunt has been shit at Bournemouth. They made out he was world class, best striker they'd ever seen play for them, better than Sewpa Kev etc and he's gone to Bournemouth and even before his injury been a benchwarmer. The excessive praise he got off of them for his weird relationship with that poorly kid made me sick as well. IAlmost as if they were over-compensating, to scream to the country that they're child-friendly after noncegate.  Aye Defoe done well there but they’re incapable of context. He scored so often because their game plan was basically give the ball to Defoe and let him shoot, whereas at another club he gets a more normal level of chances. It’s been similar with Grabban this season, he scored far more than a striker of his ability usually would as everything was put through him.  As I say Defoe did well and you still have to be good enough to put the chances away (shite like Joselu would squander them) but as you say they get really over the top about him because they constantly ignore context. It’s similar with Allardyce and them, they see him as an unbelievable manager despite him having them surviving by 1 point over a club that was completely imploding under McClaren. If we hadn’t have went down that season I highly doubt they’d see him as some quality manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Howay said: Aye Defoe done well there but they’re incapable of context. He scored so often because their game plan was basically give the ball to Defoe and let him shoot, whereas at another club he gets a more normal level of chances. It’s been similar with Grabban this season, he scored far more than a striker of his ability usually would as everything was put through him.  As I say Defoe did well and you still have to be good enough to put the chances away (shite like Joselu would squander them) but as you say they get really over the top about him because they constantly ignore context. It’s similar with Allardyce and them, they see him as an unbelievable manager despite him having them surviving by 1 point over a club that was completely imploding under McClaren. If we hadn’t have went down that season I highly doubt they’d see him as some quality manager. There's a good bit about how strikers like Defoe (although the example used in the book is Owen) are detrimental to the way a team plays in general in Jonanthan Wilson's* Inverting the Pyramid. The main gist of it is that as the game has evolved just scoring goals isn't enough. Based around Owen himself asking the question "Isn't scoring goals enough?" As you might expect, the answer is no. Owen, as you might expect, was typically lacking in self-effacement when he asked the question, thinking it was enough. It specifically related to criticism from Keegan when Owen was playing for him when the former was England manager. I wouldn't know enough about Grabban this season because I haven't seen him play but it's perhaps noteworthy that even with Defoe's scoring record (and with Grabban even more so I guess) Sunderland were still pretty gash. That's not to put all the blame on Defoe of course but there's a reason that sort of player has become an anachronism - they don't give enough to the team as a whole and results suffer  *From Sunderland, as it happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1221 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 When their other legends are the likes of Gary Bennett, Marco Gabbiadini and a convicted nonce, it's not really that surprising they worship Defoe. Who was a half decent international striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 True Btw, been reading Martin Hardy's Rafa's Way and there's a bit where he's talking about when it was confirmed we were down (when Sunderland beat Everton) and he was on about the local press all being there and an ex-Sunderland player saying "Well, he Mags are down, that's the main thing" or similar. Absolutely nailed on it was Gary Bennett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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