TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) Canny funny that they've begrudingly paid Grayson off and it's been of no benefit whatsoever. They could have spent that money on loaning a striker Edited February 19, 2018 by TheGingerQuiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 There's a thread on RTG at the moment trying to determine when things went wrong - and it's framed as if it could only either have been with Moyes or Grayson. A few of them seem astute enough to look further back, with Di Fanti being the true source it seems (rubbish recruitment genuinely does seem to have been their achilles heel). Moyes is proving with West ham that he has enough about him to keep a club up if given the resources. Grayson wasn't given a chance in hell really, same for Coleman (not that either are very good). What gets me though is the crazed belief some of them have that they were going to really kick on under Allardyce of all people. As if he wasn't desperately looking for a way out when England came calling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, Rayvin said: There's a thread on RTG at the moment trying to determine when things went wrong - and it's framed as if it could only either have been with Moyes or Grayson. A few of them seem astute enough to look further back, with Di Fanti being the true source it seems (rubbish recruitment genuinely does seem to have been their achilles heel). Moyes is proving with West ham that he has enough about him to keep a club up if given the resources. Grayson wasn't given a chance in hell really, same for Coleman (not that either are very good). What gets me though is the crazed belief some of them have that they were going to really kick on under Allardyce of all people. As if he wasn't desperately looking for a way out when England came calling... To be honest, their idea of "kicking on" seems significantly different to ours. A season in the top flight without miraculously surviving by the skin of their teeth would be "kicking on" for them and you'd fancy Allardyce would have managed that race to mediocrity. Even on their meagre budget. Staggers me there hasn't been a mass protest against the owner. The sum of their discontent seems to be a few angry swears at whoever is current sap in the dugout and empty seats. There've been threads meekly suggesting something; a banner, or a march or whatever, and they've been met with an insistence that those protests wouldn't do anything and they instead need to get behind the team now more than ever. Some even saying they shouldn't stoop to our level. As if meekly turning up (or staying away) is somehow more respectable than an organised demonstration of displeasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think as a city, Sunderland is a place that is devoid of hope generally. No surprise that they accept their lot in football as they accept their lot in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 They don't protest because we did. It's funny because it's true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32715 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: Tbh I saw a good post on there the other day that summed it up well. Managers aside, they took a team which was relegated pretty comprehensively from the PL last year, sold two of its best players, and loaned out all the other decent ones. No fucking mystery that they ended up at the foot of the Championship on that evidence. You have to wonder how many of the current crop of players will stay when they fall into League 1 as well. Oviedo must see himself as above that. Cattermole possibly, shit as he is. O'Shea? How many will actually stick around for League 1... Think Rodwell won't fuck off and leave them in the shite. Canny kid, him. Good pro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1221 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Their only hope of getting rid of the shower that they have at the moment is a further relegation clause in the their contracts which might get them down to a level that bottom half of the championship teams might be able to afford. But I serious doubt they factored the possibility of a second relegation into any contracts. The better players (ie the ones who are already out on loan) will go for a comparative pittance and they'll be left with the likes of McNair, Love, Matthews (nope I don't know who he is either), O'Shea if he doesn't retire and the young kids. I can't see them having much money to even bring in some experienced lower league players to help their plight. I must admit, I'm enjoying this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6986 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 If they get relegated they could potentially be playing Accrington Stanley next season. They have a similar ground capacity to Blyth Spartans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1221 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Hows Carlisle doing this season? Any chance of a derby for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Carlisle are midtable in L2, so no. Shrewsbury will be a league above them though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: If they get relegated they could potentially be playing Accrington Stanley next season. They have a similar ground capacity to Blyth Spartans Who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 'Catts for England' isn't that long ago.There is no such thing as a crisis on Wearshitside if they are above us. Yes,you can have a football discussion with a makem, but once him and his makem mates get together the bullshit starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 23 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said: 'Catts for England' isn't that long ago.There is no such thing as a crisis on Wearshitside if they are above us. Yes,you can have a football discussion with a makem, but once him and his makem mates get together the bullshit starts. 1 hour ago, essembeeofsunderland said: 'Catts for England' isn't that long ago.There is no such thing as a crisis on Wearshitside if they are above us. Yes,you can have a football discussion with a makem, but once him and his makem mates get together the bullshit starts. @Ant essembot is on the fritz again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Bloody laptop !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3207 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 50 million quid will now be enough to buy sunderland. Isn't Steve McClown in the market for buying a football club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Win the Euros tonight, buy the mackems, sell off the squad, knock down the ground and the training facilities to put up some student flats. It'd be a kindness. Then they can start up AFC Sunderland or whatever, with all their favourite bits of Sunderland AFC, but none of the bad. Just like Rangers have managed. And you'd still have £100m to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 It's be interesting to poll them and see if they'd rather have not had the 6 in a row and still be in the Premiership or keep the 6 in a row and be where they are now? I'd genuinely expect them to prefer the 6 in a row for the memories of finally getting one over on us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1221 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I don't think there's any doubt which one they'd go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Things looking absolutely grim for them at halftime. Burton two up at Barnsley and Bolton beating them 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 they really are going down aren’t they this is fucking hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32715 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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