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[strawb 4635]

28 minutes ago, Renton said:

Cattermole"s a pundit here. Seems pretty clear he's still a smoggy at heart. Uh oh. Another one off the Xmas card list. Nar Cats for me marra. 

Not even a smoggie, that little cunt was born in Stockton

[Renton 23586]

4 minutes ago, strawb said:

Not even a smoggie, that little cunt was born in Stockton

 

That's a smoggie isn't it? Don't tell me you lot are as bad as the Mackems saying somebody from Gateshead isn't a Geordie? 

[Monkeys Fist 45063]

I’m looking forward to hearing how they manage to blame this on Saudi Arabia. 

[NJS 4557]

35 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

That's a smoggie isn't it? Don't tell me you lot are as bad as the Mackems saying somebody from Gateshead isn't a Geordie? 

Stockton is historically in Durham and Boro in Yorkshire as the Tees was the border so Mackem logic dictates Stockton is MLF territory. 

[NJS 4557]

31 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I’m looking forward to hearing how they manage to blame this on Saudi Arabia. 

Ref was biased so I see a simple keep them in their place bribe narrative. 

[strawb 4635]

39 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

That's a smoggie isn't it? Don't tell me you lot are as bad as the Mackems saying somebody from Gateshead isn't a Geordie? 

I don’t know the historical geography but Stockton and the orks born there are definitely not smoggies 

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

Once again, it has been a very difficult week for Sunderland. Each one of those 4 goals would have hurt them. On another note, how did their match go?

[Renton 23586]

21 minutes ago, NJS said:

Stockton is historically in Durham and Boro in Yorkshire as the Tees was the border so Mackem logic dictates Stockton is MLF territory. 

 

Boro manager a mag. MLF manager a smoggie. Am fewmin marra. 

[Renton 23586]

The ultimate post match eh? post?  Cute little grin. 

 

 

[Howay 12496]

 

[Chaser 1365]

5 hours ago, strawb said:

I don’t know the historical geography but Stockton and the orks born there are definitely not smoggies 

 

 

The term smoggy covers most of Teesside as it's from all of the shite that used to be spewed from the likes the steel works at Redcar and  ICI Wilton in Boro and ICI Billingham (which is in Stockton on Tees). 

[strawb 4635]

I was born and brought up in Middlesbrough, my dad worked at ICI…

 

I know where the term comes from so you can fuck off dropping your memes. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4244]

Just now, strawb said:

I was born and brought up in Middlesbrough, my dad worked at ICI…

 

I know where the term comes from so you can fuck off dropping your memes. 

That explains a lot.

[The Fish 11313]

Feel for those Bilbao MLFs, coming all that way, four nowt

[Dougle 3677]

4 hours ago, Howay said:

 

 

Well it’s a slow night in the Dougle kennel, and as such I had mild curiosity as to when the boro had indeed beat us 5-0.

1931.

 

 

I wonder if the thick spunk bucket who is going to gleefully present ‘his’ stat to his hated mag work marras  will present this one too?

I’m guessing the thick cunt wont even know.

 

 

 

Anyhow back to painting the stairs.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Dougle

[strawb 4635]

48 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

That explains a lot.

Are you a plastic jock? 

[Renton 23586]

21 minutes ago, Dougle said:

 

Well it’s a slow night in the Dougal kennel, and as such I had mild curiosity as to when the boro had indeed beat us 5-0.

 

1931.

 

 

I wonder if the thick spunk bucket who is going to gleefully present ‘his’ stat to his hated mag work marras  will present this one too?

 

I’m guessing the thick cunt wont even know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyhow back to painting the stairs.

 

The sad thing is its in the title mate, he knows full well.  They honestly believe the 9-1 upsets us more than a century later. 

[Renton 23586]

1 hour ago, Chaser said:

 

 

The term smoggy covers most of Teesside as it's from all of the shite that used to be spewed from the likes the steel works at Redcar and  ICI Wilton in Boro and ICI Billingham (which is in Stockton on Tees). 

 

Yarm is Elysium. 

[Dougle 3677]

33 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

The sad thing is its in the title mate, he knows full well.  They honestly believe the 9-1 upsets us more than a century later. 

 

Pun intended?

 

And sorry, didnt read the thread title.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Dougle

[Kitman 2318]

They aren't in the promotion spots in the championship after 10 games, averaging less than 2 points a game, then they get pumped 4-0 at home by a team in the lower reaches of the division  

 

This all adds up to a team that could beat the French champions PSG, easily 

Sure, sure 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14650]

Think it’s only right that Dortmund are replaced with Boro in our Champions League group. Only then can we get a clear answer to who the best team in Europe is

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

5 hours ago, Kitman said:

They aren't in the promotion spots in the championship after 10 games, averaging less than 2 points a game, then they get pumped 4-0 at home by a team in the lower reaches of the division  

 

This all adds up to a team that could beat the French champions PSG, easily 

Sure, sure 

That is a very misleading correlation to make and I think this goes to show that you don't understand football.

 

This could be down to a couple of factors:

1)Magedia which genuinely has you brainwashed 

2)Sportswashing which means the Saudis have got to you.

 

It is a well known fact, unless you support Newcastle aka Saudi United (Only Newcastle fans don't know this), that the Championship is far better than the Premier League (apart from a few teams, somewhere around 20) and that as soon as you get promoted,  you become worse than when you were in the Championship which is why the lesser teams of the Premier League end up beating you.

[Chaser 1365]

14 hours ago, Renton said:

 

Yarm is Elysium. 

I wouldnt quite go that far, but it's a decent little high street with plenty pubs and mostly occupied units which can't be said for most high streets. 

[Alex 36667]

It was a wasteland until it got that levelling up funding  

[SouthAussieMag 34]

On 07/10/2023 at 22:40, Renton said:

 

This is a great first post. Not a lot I can add, I fully agree. The term only entered the lexicon in 2015, and I can't remember it used until the Qatar World Cup was in the final preparation stages. 

Like the term woke, I just think it's a meaningless lazy coverall for people people who don't want Saudi investment and influence in the PL or just don't like Nufc.

But for the reasons you describe, it just doesn't make sense in this case and the motivations I think are purely to use Nufc as a status symbol and an advertising board for various other Saudi interests, both national and the general PIf portfolio. Who knows, maybe eventually we could even turn a direct profit. 

I do have some sympathy for people who oppose Saudi BTW, the ones who can articulate why it is not good for the English game in general. Fair enough, I mainly agree tbh. But what I won't countenance is people who purely use it as a weapon to attack our club and fans. Those people can get fucked. 

I think a lot of people get caught up in viewing things through their own cultural lense and biases. You have to remember, to middle eastern countries such as Saudi, they view the practices we see as despicable as just and par for the course. The concept of sports washing would imply that they feel guilty or ashamed of their practices and were trying to cover it up through smoke and mirrors involving sport. In reality they seem to view the west's approach to criminals and dissidents as  strange and unusual. I'm not defending the policies of the House of Saud here at all, far from it, but I find when dealing with international cultural understanding and politics it's easy to assess the situation through the lense of your own culture and sensibilities.

 

The Muslim religion has existed since the 7th century and the Arabic and Berber culture even longer, and is very explicit about how to govern the population and how morals and ethics should be adhered to. Unlike Christianity which has been seen as malleable and open to interpretation with major reforms coming through the protestant reformation and later the Vatican 2 reforms, Islam is seen as absolute and unchanging by its scholars.

 

Again I am not defending this and also at the same time I'm also not going to judge. It is what it is and many studies and surveys have shown that an overwhelming majority of Muslims like it as it is (Pew have done multiple exhaustive worldwide surveys with gigantic sample sizes https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/). As an English man (yes I see myself as such, we still live in the empire here, and I was raised by an English mother), I'm cautious about forcing beliefs on to other cultures as it's just perpetuating a colonial mindset and it really hasn't worked out well on our last three forays with the US into Muslim countries over the past 3 decades. If anything it's made them more fundamental and murderey. 

 

What I'm getting at here is that the sportswashing label is ridiculous on the face of it. These middle eastern theocracies, caliphates and absolute monarchies don't care about what the west thinks of their behaviours. They do care about prestige and the accumulation of wealth, deeds and status, especially when competing with rival states.

 

As you said people are going to judge us based on how our owners govern and project their power. If you dig slightly under the surface of any of the other owners of other teams you're going to find a sleazy underbelly. US billionaires, Chinese concerns, South East Asian oligarchs, Russians etc etc. Until the Prem adopts a model like the Bundesliga that puts the power into the hands of the fans (lol good luck), it's going to continue to be dominated by unscrupulous types who are inflating their own egos with spare change from their unbelievable fortunes.

 

When it comes down to it people don't like change. They like the established order of top 6 teams and sometimes an outsider like Leicester busting through. When someone like us comes through to upset the apple cart and oust some of the top 6, they will use what they can to delegitimise us. This happens to be easy with a very obviously nefarious power as the owner. However, glass houses and all that.

 

Sorry I've been on the vodka again tonight and I've written another essay.