SloopJohn 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 single handedly? he played well at right back in the second half...first half he was dismantled by Milan Hamman changed the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Nah, if you look at his contribution in Europe he's worth a CL to them on his tod. Two finals ffs! It almost defies belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 single handedly? he played well at right back in the second half...first half he was dismantled by Milan Hamman changed the game He scored the first, made the second, and made the third. He was tremendous and that wouldn't even begin to describe his exploits en route to the final. The Olympiakos game he should've been drug tested he was that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I'm not arguing with that, but he was playing right wing back in the second half... he was playing center mid with Alonso in the first half, and they went 3-0 down, and he was culpable for at least two of the goals.. for everything fantastic Gerrard has done in his career, he's also had some absolute horror moments, Euro 2004 vs. France springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 single handedly? he played well at right back in the second half...first half he was dismantled by Milan Hamman changed the game He scored the first, made the second, and made the third. He was tremendous and that wouldn't even begin to describe his exploits en route to the final. The Olympiakos game he should've been drug tested he was that good. That and the respective qualities of the two teams. Milan were almost embarrassingly better. The first half showed the actual natural gulf in class between them (that's genuinely how much better one team was to the other), the second half showed what sheer guts and determination can do in order for a woefully inferior team to stem that gap. It needs someone absolutely superhuman driving it though and thats exactly what he was. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gerard seems to me to be in decline. If Dalglish asked him to play deep against us it's a massive error imo, he seems to score against us for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gerard seems to me to be in decline. If Dalglish asked him to play deep against us it's a massive error imo, he seems to score against us for fun It was a hugely low key performance but I still thought he was the most likely to do something when he picked the ball up and looked for the pass through the middle. Bellamy was anonymous after the opening 15 (happily). At the end of the day it's one of the reasons I've no time for CT's 'end product' rant about Jonas. Yes ideally he'd be sticking the ball on the attackers head with every cross, chalk on his boots at the time, but how many goals realistically get scored like that anyway? Not many. Far more effective is stuff coming straight through the middle. It can go out wide as an option and to spread the play, but for all we're wanking over Ben Arfa, we're doing that principally because he cuts inside with such devastating effect. If all he was doing was knocking balls across from the flank we'd be wondering what all the fuss was about. If Gerrard didnt want to play RM under Benitez (or ever) I can understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gerard seems to me to be in decline. If Dalglish asked him to play deep against us it's a massive error imo, he seems to score against us for fun It was a hugely low key performance but I still thought he was the most likely to do something when he picked the ball up and looked for the pass through the middle. Bellamy was anonymous after the opening 15 (happily). At the end of the day it's one of the reasons I've no time for CT's 'end product' rant about Jonas. Yes ideally he'd be sticking the ball on the attackers head with every cross, chalk on his boots at the time, but how many goals realistically get scored like that anyway? Not many. Far more effective is stuff coming straight through the middle. It can go out wide as an option and to spread the play, but for all we're wanking over Ben Arfa, we're doing that principally because he cuts inside with such devastating effect. If all he was doing was knocking balls across from the flank we'd be wondering what all the fuss was about. If Gerrard didnt want to play RM under Benitez (or ever) I can understand why. I thought Bellamy had the beating of Jonas every time they attacked down our left but that faded as the half progressed.....not sure whether that was anything to do with Bellamy or more to do with us controlling the match more as the half wore on. At the moment it doesn't look like we'll play with wingers as such so he seems determined to shoe horn Jonas in at LB......not sure what makes him better than Santon in this position. As the match wore on I thought we'd see Gerrard rampaging up the middle and arriving late in the box to plunder a goal. At 2-1 they would have been right back in it. As it happened (happily) he sat deep and i don't recall him looking threatening on our goal all match.....he's their talisman but looked flat...and the rest of them lacked any kind of urgency or passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4880 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Have we seen Jonas at Lb twice now? Norwich and Liverpool? and then as the third midfielder (very effectively) against west brom? can see that being how it pans out as hes a more attacking option as left back to play at home but will definitely cover more ground than guthrie away from home in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gerard seems to me to be in decline. If Dalglish asked him to play deep against us it's a massive error imo, he seems to score against us for fun It was a hugely low key performance but I still thought he was the most likely to do something when he picked the ball up and looked for the pass through the middle. Bellamy was anonymous after the opening 15 (happily). At the end of the day it's one of the reasons I've no time for CT's 'end product' rant about Jonas. Yes ideally he'd be sticking the ball on the attackers head with every cross, chalk on his boots at the time, but how many goals realistically get scored like that anyway? Not many. Far more effective is stuff coming straight through the middle. It can go out wide as an option and to spread the play, but for all we're wanking over Ben Arfa, we're doing that principally because he cuts inside with such devastating effect. If all he was doing was knocking balls across from the flank we'd be wondering what all the fuss was about. If Gerrard didnt want to play RM under Benitez (or ever) I can understand why. I thought Bellamy had the beating of Jonas every time they attacked down our left but that faded as the half progressed.....not sure whether that was anything to do with Bellamy or more to do with us controlling the match more as the half wore on. At the moment it doesn't look like we'll play with wingers as such so he seems determined to shoe horn Jonas in at LB......not sure what makes him better than Santon in this position. As the match wore on I thought we'd see Gerrard rampaging up the middle and arriving late in the box to plunder a goal. At 2-1 they would have been right back in it. As it happened (happily) he sat deep and i don't recall him looking threatening on our goal all match.....he's their talisman but looked flat...and the rest of them lacked any kind of urgency or passion Aye, absolutely. Very reminiscent of how they looked last time they were up in fact (Pardew's first/Hodgson's last), save for the fact they'd lavished tens of millions on the team in the meantime and had plenty of new faces. I still give the credit to our lot first and foremost mind because I think after the opening 15 we created and took our chances, while doing it in a very controlling way. They've seen Dalglish moan, whinge and feel sorry for himself too much for me. Plus make them look a dick over Suarez's racism. I think that comes across at the end of the day...if he wants his players responding with guts on the pitch then he cant have the image of his slapped-arse-interview-absconding face running through their minds all the time. He blatantly feels sorry for himself and so thats how they will feel too. They'll still win the FA Cup mind, but that'll be down to their heritage and demands of the club/media rather than Dalglish for me. It's just what Liverpool do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14086 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I thought Bellamy didn't look fit at all. There was times he wasn't reaching for balls he could have trapped or chasing through balls he could have caught. He's either unfit or seriously unhappy and is being lazy because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Correct, and when you have 360 degree vision at the match you could really see it many, many times when we were on the attack. We were rigid and disciplined. How people can question Pardew's tactical awareness beggars belief. We were saying yesterday, he's been good literally everywhere he's been apart from 4 shit months at West Ham, he really set the foundations at Reading for them to become a decent Premiership club in later years. i can't believe he hasn't won everyone over now - even those norweigen knob jockeys must recognise the job he's done. look at the league position and some of the victories - beating man u, liverpool, hammering the unwashed etc. i'll hold me hands up. i was gutted when hughton was sacked and fuming when pardew was appointed. but you have to give him massive credit for what he's done this season. defensively, we're as solid as i can remember us being. the positional awareness of players i'd previously written off has improved massively - that is down to coaching. and you can't dispute his man management - he's handled ben arfa perfectly and has kept the team spirit going in the camp. i thought that would go after hughton was sacked and when the senior pros were flogged in the sumemr but if anything it's improved. plus he seems to handle the media perfectly; he's got a bit of confidence - even arrogance - about him, which i like and he talks honestly and tells it how he sees it, instead of talking in cliches. plus he's done it all on a small budget by premiership standards. manager of the year tbh agree with every single word of that; top quality post mate quite a turnaround after what he said only a few weeks ago. What he says here is exactly the same as I've said for years, what a pity he doesn't actually read anything I say before giving me flak for "spouting the same old shite" http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/31911-official-mike-ashley-euro-express-thread/page__st__2720__p__1057398#entry1057398 I made a post on Newcastle Online about 4 years ago saying Pardew was a good manager mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46173 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Aye you've made one saying Sounness was a top boss too if we're doing countbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4880 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) wasn't leazes apparent insanity meant to be confined to one thread? it "nurse, hes out of thread again!" Edited April 4, 2012 by Semimental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Have we seen Jonas at Lb twice now? Norwich and Liverpool? and then as the third midfielder (very effectively) against west brom? can see that being how it pans out as hes a more attacking option as left back to play at home but will definitely cover more ground than guthrie away from home in midfield Aye, I like Santon but he doesn't stay in his position enough at the moment to play in a 4-3-3 I've also heard a rumour that he doesn't like being here. Jonas also seems more effective in the attack when he arrives late from the left back position than when he plays on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46173 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 "nurse, hes out of thread again!" :lol nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Anyone found a bigger version of this? Love this shot, couple of good ones from the match actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Anyone found a bigger version of this? Love this shot, couple of good ones from the match actually. Yeah, here: Posted Image Edited April 4, 2012 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4880 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Very clever. It was this (didn't realise I couldn't hotlink from Twitter images) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6793 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Have we seen Jonas at Lb twice now? Norwich and Liverpool? and then as the third midfielder (very effectively) against west brom? can see that being how it pans out as hes a more attacking option as left back to play at home but will definitely cover more ground than guthrie away from home in midfield Oddily enough whenever Jonas has played left back we have kept a clean sheet - despite his ropey performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Very clever. It was this (didn't realise I couldn't hotlink from Twitter images) It's asking for a cock to be photoshopped into Danny Simpson's hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Very clever. It was this (didn't realise I couldn't hotlink from Twitter images) It's asking for a cock to be photoshopped into Danny Simpson's hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 A wack-a-mole popping out of his mouth wouldn't come amiss either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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