2bias 3 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just because we've signed a new central midfielder it doesn't mean Tiote is off ffs! Pleased to see a new player come in, especially as last season Gosling got a few too many games (he just doesn't seem good enough for us) for my liking. This. Very negative thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ajax fans really upset to see him go. Saying things like he's a much better footballer than Tiote. They also mention he's quite average at full-back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just because we've signed a new central midfielder it doesn't mean Tiote is off ffs! It doesn't but how can we accommodate Cabaye, Tiote and Anita? They are all deep lying CMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It doesn't but how can we accommodate Cabaye, Tiote and Anita? They are all deep lying CMs. Cabaye isn't. His best football last season came when he played much further forward ahead of Jonas and Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 There is a distinction between negativity and pragmatism 'ffs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/08/16/vurnon-anita-versatile-midfielder-who-can-dictate-the-tempo-at-newcastle-united/ Vurnon Anita: Versatile midfielder who can dictate the tempo at Newcastle United Newcastle United have secured the services of a very useful player whilst also weakening Dutch champions Ajax in the process. Magpies manager Alan Pardew will now be able to employ a variety of midfield combinations and formations after Vurnon Anita finalised his £6.7m move to St James’ Park. Anita has won just three senior caps for the Netherlands so far but has represented the Dutch at various youth levels. Anita was unlucky not to be selected by former Oranje coach Bert van Marwijk for his final 23-man squad for Euro 2012 this summer despite being selected for the initial 27-man provisional squad. He was omitted despite impressive performances for Ajax as they marched towards the Eredivisie title. Anita came through the famous Ajax academy and made his first-team debut in the 2005/06 season at the age of 16. He played a total of 152 games for Ajax, scoring on seven occasions. Predominantly a midfielder, he displayed his versatility playing at left-back and right-back as Frank de Boer’s team endured an injury-hit campaign last season. De Boer has frequently labelled Anita as an important member of his squad but eventually lost the battle to keep another key player after the departure of Jan Vertonghen to Tottenham earlier this summer. The new Newcastle number eight favours a defensive midfield role, although he has more ability and passing range than Cheick Tioté, another Newcastle midfielder signed from the Dutch league. Pardew faces a selection dilemma (whether to drop Tioté) as Anita can complement the excellent Yohan Cabaye and form an impressive partnership, whilst also taking on the role that the Ivorian midfielder delivers. Although at just 5ft 6in Anita may lack the height of his Premier League rivals, his movement and ball retention can help him win midfield battles. The 23-year-old is not just a ball-winner but also a controlling playmaker who can help Newcastle build from the back and provide consistent supply to the likes of Cabaye, Jonas Gutiérrez and Hatem Ben Arfa. This should mean Newcastle can expect to have a more balanced and fluid midfield this season depending on the tactical choices of Pardew. The acquisition of the Dutch international from the Amsterdam giants indicates that the Newcastle manager is willing to explore variations to the game plan of The Magpies after their impressive Premier League campaign last season in which they finished fifth. Pardew will more than likely explore the possibility of fielding Anita alongside Tioté and Cabaye in a five-man midfield for instance against tougher opposition or in away fixtures. Anita covered a range of positions for Ajax last season but their return to form – Ajax were 11 points behind leaders AZ after just 12 games – coincided with the footballer of Antillean descent playing in his natural defensive midfield role. Ajax began their impressive run of 14 consecutive league wins following the defeat at home to Utrecht, with Anita at left-back. Following that defeat that could have ended their hopes of retaining the championship, Anita returned to midfield duty with devastating results for Ajax’s title rivals. Anita provided defensively stability, ball retention and helped de Godenzonen move the ball quicker and play a quicker tempo. It certainly looks like the Newcastle scouting network has once again found a very useful player that can ultimately improve their team. Pardew told the club’s official website: “He is an exceptionally talented footballer with great technical ability, which is exactly what I’m looking at in a player.” Ajax manager De Boer told his club’s official website: “His departure is a loss for us. People are always talking about the past season, in which he played a big part in the series of victories that led to the championship. That is right. But even before that he was of great value.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarStripes 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It doesn't but how can we accommodate Cabaye, Tiote and Anita? They are all deep lying CMs. Wrong. Cabaye by far and away is better playing higher and having more creative freedom. This showed in the games he played there in contrast to when he sat deeper and we got nother out of him creatively. I would love to see us play a middle three of Anita, Cabaye and Tiote. Grit, tenacity and a bit of guile either side of Cabaye allowing him to pull the strings a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7182 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Pards saying in his presser he wants 1 more player. I imagine its either Debuchy, Carroll or Douglas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7182 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Simpson-Taylor-Colo-Santon ---------Anita---Tiote------- Barfa-------Cabaye-------Ba -------------Cisse----------- Cabaye was outstanding for France playing in an advanced position during the euros Edited August 16, 2012 by J69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Simpson-Taylor-Colo-Santon ---------Anita---Tiote------- Barfa-------Cabaye-------Ba -------------Cisse----------- That would be ideal. Imagine if we got Debuchy in as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7182 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) That would be ideal. Imagine if we got Debuchy in as well? Yep, with Jonas, Marveaux, Sammy, Bigi, Raylor, Shola, Amalfitano, etc. on the bench Edited August 16, 2012 by J69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Think Marveaux will play a big part in our season, especially early on if Ben Arfa isn't up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Simpson-Taylor-Colo-Santon ---------Anita---Tiote------- Barfa-------Cabaye-------Ba -------------Cisse----------- Cabaye was outstanding for France playing in an advanced position during the euros I reckon Jonas would be a starter out wide in place of Ba/Le Barf. Although with the likelihood of Ivory Coast playing in the ACN then Cabaye - Jonas - Anita is streets ahead of Cabaye - Guthrie. Very good signing this when you look at it that way as we dropped points without the African contingent last season and Cabaye sacrificing his best game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7182 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Easily the best squad of 18+ we have had since I can remember. If Curtis Good can prove himself as a decent alternative to Willo especially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charvski 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I would still find a place in the team for Jonas. The work rate he puts in is incredible and helps the team out more than he is given credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ins and outs... Alan Smith - Romain Amalfitano Danny Guthrie - Vurnon Anita Peter Lovenkrands - Gael Bigirimana Tamas Kadar - Curtis Good Fraser Forster - Leon Best - Not quite like for like, but improvements in all areas we've brought people in....assuming these are the players being replaced and no more are sold. Still not sure Good is good enough to challenge/cover our existing CBs and want more done there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'd swap the Lovenkrands/Smith one around, but I agree with the sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ins and outs... Alan Smith - Romain Amalfitano Danny Guthrie - Vurnon Anita Peter Lovenkrands - Gael Bigirimana Tamas Kadar - Curtis Good Fraser Forster - Leon Best - Not quite like for like, but improvements in all areas we've brought people in....assuming these are the players being replaced and no more are sold. Still not sure Good is good enough to challenge/cover our existing CBs and want more done there. With the exception of Guthrie, that's just us shifting on the deadwood in the squad. If anything they were already replaced by players like Abeid, Tavernier, Sameobi etc. Our first team so far has only lost Guthrie, replaced by Anita so we're like for like. Still will be assuming Debuchy arrives and Simpson goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think I would he disappointed if only one more player came in. It's putting a lot of pressure on Campbell and Good to step up, I also can't believe Simpson is going to see out his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Guthrie was alright, but I'm certainly not sad to see him go. If he proves himself in the PL by starting every week then fair dos, but I personally still think he's a solid Championship player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22186 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 if we chalk up debuchy and carroll, or a different striker, and lose no more players, we can consider it an excellent window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So glad we have a predominately young squad. Players that are not only good enough to achieve what we want already but potentially still have improvement in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 if we chalk up debuchy and carroll, or a different striker, and lose no more players, we can consider it an excellent window. Debuchy coming in still seems distinctly possible with the strope he's putting on. Carroll I'm not so sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Someone stick a cape on him, My MS paint skills are deserting me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Pass and float, pass and float. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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