Tooj 17 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I think so. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Best since Shearer at the very least. The complete package. He lacks Shearer's aggression, if anything - but he doesn't really need it. Edited January 5, 2012 by Monroe Transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I agree. Less pace but a better allround game inc finishing and intuition. For me his performaces are just a shade under world class right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not yet. Les scored 41 goals in two seasons here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Not yet. Les scored 41 goals in two seasons here. In a canny bit better side. Take your point re: needing to do it over a longer period though. Sir Les scored more 41 goals though, didn't he? Edited January 5, 2012 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Playing in a very different team. Mind you Ferdinand was class in an average QPR side too. Looks brilliant on the deck mind and has the edge over Sir Les there. I was quietly positive about the signing when we got him but then when he started he looked like he couldn't trap a bag of wet cement. Class now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22185 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 if he keeps this scoring rate up then yes. he has to be a contender for player of the season too. where would be in the league without his goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not yet. Les scored 41 goals in two seasons here. In a canny bit better side. Take your point re: needing to do it over a longer period though. Sir Les scored more 41 goals though, didn't he? I checked again, 50 goals in total, 41 league goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Demba is obviously more important to us than Les was. Ba has now scored 15 goals, Leon Best is second with 3 Whereas in that 95-96 season we had Beardsley and Lee who scored regularly and then of course Shearer in the 96-97 season. That doesn't take anything away from Les though. He scored 29 goals in his first season here, that's great in anyone's book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Having one player dominate the goal-count isn't a problem unique to us, luckily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 he's very good but I wouldn't put him on the same level as Les until he can prove he isn't a one season wonder (not that I think he is). He's certainly the best all round striker we've had since Shearer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 he's very good but I wouldn't put him on the same level as Les until he can prove he isn't a one season wonder (not that I think he is). He's certainly the best all round striker we've had since Shearer though. Yup, that pretty much sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 All I know is I love syrup. You know what is syrup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He's certainly on a par with him.Though I think their style of play is different. Reminds me a bit more of Cole actually. Ba's ability to get a decent shot off from a situation that's seemingly impossible amazes me at times. There was an effort against Chelsea when the ball was stuck under his feet but somehow he directed it, with power, towards the goal and only a decent save from Cech stopped it going in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Playing in a very different team. Mind you Ferdinand was class in an average QPR side too. Looks brilliant on the deck mind and has the edge over Sir Les there. I was quietly positive about the signing when we got him but then when he started he looked like he couldn't trap a bag of wet cement. Class now though. Steven Taylor made a point about that in the studio last night. Pointed out that he looked a bit lacklustre at Scunthorpe but he pointed out that Ba was going through Ramadan then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3116 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Class in the air. Class on the ground. Can beat a man. Makes intelligent runs. Has a good free kick. Holds the ball up well. Tracks back. Takes his chances. Makes chances for himself and others. He is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. Best not to get too far ahead of ourselves as it is just half a season at the mo (calendar year if you count W Ham mind) but it should absolutely be enjoyed to the full for what it is. What I will say though is that when the goals do tail off, as they do at some time for all strikers, his hold up play is a massive bonus to the team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20798 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Big statement J2J but an interesting one. I certainly think Ba has a better first touch and dribbling skill. I am just stunned how bloody good he is tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. Best not to get too far ahead of ourselves as it is just half a season at the mo (calendar year if you count W Ham mind) but it should absolutely be enjoyed to the full for what it is. What I will say though is that when the goals do tail off, as they do at some time for all strikers, his hold up play is a massive bonus to the team too. Without 'getting too far ahead' I'd suggest he's been better for us in the past 5 months than Andy Carroll was in the same period last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 What I also like about Ba is that he seems so calm. Like I said he lacks Shearer's aggression but he's so strong that he doesn't need it. Defenders just bounce off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14069 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Best striker in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. If I remember correctly West Ham stupidly agreed on some bonkers clause in his contract that he could leave on a free if they were relegated. Can't remember if that was ever verified though. We've pulled off some amazing deals lately in Ba, Tiote, Cabaye, Santon etc not to mention the 35 million for Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. Best not to get too far ahead of ourselves as it is just half a season at the mo (calendar year if you count W Ham mind) but it should absolutely be enjoyed to the full for what it is. What I will say though is that when the goals do tail off, as they do at some time for all strikers, his hold up play is a massive bonus to the team too. Without 'getting too far ahead' I'd suggest he's been better for us in the past 5 months than Andy Carroll was in the same period last season. Aye. He's definitely scored goals that Carroll wouldn't have. Only hope his level of effectiveness for us in the 2nd half of the season is better than Carroll's was too, if you follow what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He looks dangerous when he has the ball at his feet and takes players on. Saw at least 3 dangerous attacking dribbles, one of which was the foul that led to Cabeye's goal. Absolutely amazed he was available on a free. As people have been saying, he's a £20million player based on his first half season here. Best not to get too far ahead of ourselves as it is just half a season at the mo (calendar year if you count W Ham mind) but it should absolutely be enjoyed to the full for what it is. What I will say though is that when the goals do tail off, as they do at some time for all strikers, his hold up play is a massive bonus to the team too. Without 'getting too far ahead' I'd suggest he's been better for us in the past 5 months than Andy Carroll was in the same period last season. Aye. He's definitely scored goals that Carroll wouldn't have. Only hope his level of effectiveness for us in the 2nd half of the season is better than Carroll's was too, if you follow what I'm saying. You mean when we trade him to Liverpoo in a straight swap for Wor Andy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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