trophyshy 7083 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The question was whether he had made racist remarks to Evra. Not whether he hides a white hood in his sock. When he makes his come back and scores he could whip out his KKK hood in celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 One look at this photo should have been enough to get him banned for the rest of the season. Just look at his little rat face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20146 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 If he has and their going on Evra's say so, then its poor by the FA. If he has and they have gone on what the officials have heard ALSO or whoever has given evidence, he shouldnt play football in this country again IMO, the little shit should be deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It's not just Evra's say so though, is it? Because as part of his defence he's admitted that he called him 'Negrito'. Which clearly is a term of racist abuse, whatever he claims to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The question was whether he had made racist remarks to Evra. Not whether he hides a white hood in his sock. Aye, he made a racial remark, but racist? Well, it certainly wasn't complementary, I'll say that much. Look, to have an opposing view would be practically be seen as siding with that fat, out-of-touch cunt Blatter. No way, man. Not from me. Different cultures though have different terminology for different things. That's my point. I guess though the underlying thing out of all this is to respect the culture of the country you are in. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44881 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Given that he's admitted that, Liverpool's stance is appalling. Talking about helping him to clear his name. Their statement was incredible. Also, I think the punishment is a bit light tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20146 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It's not just Evra's say so though, is it? Because as part of his defence he's admitted that he called him 'Negrito'. Which clearly is a term of racist abuse, whatever he claims to the contrary. Ah right. Helps if I did read it all. Well he should be banned from playing in England. What happens if Terry is found Guilty? Same? 8 match acceptable? The old Bill are investigating this one, why not the Suarez one? Because a member of the public hasnt complained? Joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20146 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Given that he's admitted that, Liverpool's stance is appalling. Talking about helping him to clear his name. Their statement was incredible. Also, I think the punishment is a bit light tbh. This. It sends no message out other than, be racist. Doesnt matter where youre from tbh. When in rome and all that....... just because its acceptable in one culture to behave like fucking rats you dont do it everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Given that he's admitted that, Liverpool's stance is appalling. Talking about helping him to clear his name. Their statement was incredible. Also, I think the punishment is a bit light tbh. That's been the most concerning thing for me - Liverpool's official reaction. That was a fucking disgrace. For an uneducated, hot-tempered, immoral little prick to say what he said is one thing but Dalglish and the other fuckers at the club?!? That's fuckin' criminal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44881 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ever the experts in self pity, and playing the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20146 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Given that he's admitted that, Liverpool's stance is appalling. Talking about helping him to clear his name. Their statement was incredible. Also, I think the punishment is a bit light tbh. That's been the most concerning thing for me - Liverpool's official reaction. That was a fucking disgrace. For an uneducated, hot-tempered, immoral little prick to say what he said is one thing but Dalglish and the other fuckers at the club?!? That's fuckin' criminal! Justice! *minutes silence* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20146 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Ever the experts in self pity, and playing the victim. When I went to bEllend Road to put my shirt down for Speedo there was of course Leeds shirts, a few Toon and an Everton one. Then stuck out like a sore thumb a Liverpool one. They fucking LOVE disasters like this in football the cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 60 point fine for Liverpool would seem appropriate, for condoning racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They've thrown the toys out of the pram due to a combination of getting their own way for 45 years an the inherent self pity. Shame is they'll reduce the ban to four on appeal - would be funny if it was doubled though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Liverpool could have done with their beloved silence rather than the awful shit they've come out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11378 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The CPS will make an announcement on the John Terry case this afternoon, should be interesting to see what happens there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Liverpool's defence is utterly classless and moronic. His defence has blatantly been this 'negrito is a term of endearment' claptrap (up there with such classic retard excuses for racism as 'black people call each other niggers' and 'paki is just a shortened form of Pakistani') so he's pretty much admitted it himself. In what fucked up country is 'my little black friend' a term of endearment rather than patronising racism btw? Glad the little cunt has been banned. MT is spot on about this place btw, I'm not saying people should be banned but to claim that racism isn't tolerated here is an outright lie. namby pamby idiot. What racism ? Lets see you condemn those fuckers who spout anti-west hatred and death threats on the streets of Britain and heckle our troops knowing they can't fire back at them. Cowardly arseholes. Because, other than that and telling the truth, that's all I post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They've thrown the toys out of the pram due to a combination of getting their own way for 45 years an the inherent self pity. Shame is they'll reduce the ban to four on appeal - would be funny if it was doubled though. that's probably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 *minutes silence* *pushes wall* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 On the evidential side of things, it sounds like they reached their decision based on Evra's testimony and Suarez's (partial) admission. Ie there wasn't any other evidence from team mates/officials. Evra claimed one thing and Suarez tried to explain it away as another. The standard of proof will only have been 'on balance of probabilities' which is more likely to be true, which is a low threshold - ie just which account is more believable than the other. Obviously it's incongruous for Suarez to try to claim he was paying Evra a compliment/using a term of endearment. Terry's different because he's been charged up by the CPS so it'll be the criminal standard of proof (beyond reasonable doubt). A higher threshold (ie not just who's evidence is more likely to be true on balance, but is it virtually certain Terry's explanation is untrue). That said there's also more evidence in the Terry case to start with (objective TV footage) hence why it became a CPS matter in the first place rather than an internal FA matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Get in! Hopefully the appeal will descend into a fiasco and games and fines will be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As an aside, if the ban stands, it might just be the making of Carroll this. Or possibly the end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As an aside, if the ban stands, it might just be the making of Carroll this. Or possibly the end of his career. Has he got a black grandad though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) They've thrown the toys out of the pram due to a combination of getting their own way for 45 years an the inherent self pity. Shame is they'll reduce the ban to four on appeal - would be funny if it was doubled though. This time it's different. Fergie put his full weight behind this. Edited December 21, 2011 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As an aside, if the ban stands, it might just be the making of Carroll this. Or possibly the end of his career. Has he got a black grandad though? Fuck knows who drafted LFC's response but parts of it were as ill advised as Suarez's 'defence' in the case. Mixed race people are amongst the worst offenders for using racist language in my personal experience so who gives a fuck if Suarez has got a black granddad I know mixed race lads who'll happily slag whites despite the fact their own mothers are white. Thick as fuck. Not racists in the pure sense I spose but twatful in exactly the same way as Suarez nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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