Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Well you've missed the point entirely there, i.e. I was referring to the previous 6 games not the games from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Still think we'll finish 7th or 8th as I have all season. Everyone goes through bad patches bar the top 2 or 3 sides. I think even Pardew will see the light regarding Obertan and drop him soon, if not for the next game then the game after that. Edited December 23, 2011 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Sorry Fish. Just exasperating for us folk who've been listening to the European talk on here for the past few months and trying to temper it with the fact the squad is far too bare/poor to cope with inevitable injury and suspension, to then be told 2 points from 18 is fine because we have injuries and suspensions. Anyone who thinks things are going to improve on that score as the season goes on and we have the intensive xmas period is living in cloud cuckoo land. This is the risk we knew Ashley was taking, there's a reason Barfa was so cheap (11 games in 2 years or summat) and Marveaux was so cheap (half an appearance?) and Gosling (1 game) and Santon (3 games), we all had questions over their fitness when they arrived.....Ba is another and that risk paid off big style, for now (ACN is going to be a nightmare). We've got 9 players with 14 appearances or more from our 17 league games. That's an impressively consistent Iineup we've been able to put out. I think we're doing remarkably well to go into the Bolton game with only Taylor missing from the first 11 that went on that outstanding run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Where did I say it was fine? You should stop twisting things. I said "injuries and suspensions are mainly to blame" and it thus goes without saying that a lack of cover in certain areas ties into that. I never saif it was "fine", I said that hopefully now we have more cover (even if it's just Williamson) + January spending, we should improve eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Sorry Fish. Just exasperating for us folk who've been listening to the European talk on here for the past few months and trying to temper it with the fact the squad is far too bare/poor to cope with inevitable injury and suspension, to then be told 2 points from 18 is fine because we have injuries and suspensions. Anyone who thinks things are going to improve on that score as the season goes on and we have the intensive xmas period is living in cloud cuckoo land. This is the risk we knew Ashley was taking, there's a reason Barfa was so cheap (11 games in 2 years or summat) and Marveaux was so cheap (half an appearance?) and Gosling (1 game) and Santon (3 games), we all had questions over their fitness when they arrived.....Ba is another and that risk paid off big style, for now (ACN is going to be a nightmare). We've got 9 players with 14 appearances or more from our 17 league games. That's an impressively consistent Iineup we've been able to put out. I think we're doing remarkably well to go into the Bolton game with only Taylor missing from the first 11 that went on that outstanding run. Because of the one thread on Europe started by a notorious wum ? Your post is based on the assumption that other clubs refused correctly to take risks on these players but because of our risk-taking owner we ignored the signs that other clubs were afraid of and are now reaping the consequences? Thats bollocks man. Ben Arfa transfer has nothing to do with injuries, Marveaux was out of contract and ran it down to smooth a move to England which leaves you with Santon and Gosling as the examples of a inherently risky transfer policy. Its being too mean to have expensive wages on the bench and bad luck, nothing more complicated. I think the main point being ignored by many is how valuable S Taylor was to us. I know he is not popular but the increase in number of goals conceded since he went out the side is remarkable. Its clear that the other half of the problem is that there was no one to replace him but he was playing really well and formed a great partnership with Colo. Anyway "all the European talk on here for months" forced me to log in and tell you to shut up. What a load of bollocks, the last 3 weeks have been dominated by doubts over Pardew, for the later part of our amazing run when we hit 3rd spot there was some legitimate optimism and one thread on the topic. Dont try and portray yourself as some martyr to the righteous and realistic cause, you'll get like Parky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Taylor had an understanding with Colo that Perch simply does not have, or is capable of having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Ben Arfa was cheap because we knew his leg might break after a vicious tackle. HF you're just as bad as that transfer request thread sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Perch needs looking at for match fixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13873 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Becoming a bit of a bogey side these like. Not beat them since we went down. How many times have we hit the bar/post in this last run of games as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Perch needs looking at for brain fixing. Edited December 23, 2011 by Aeris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Ben Arfa was cheap because we knew his leg might break after a vicious tackle. HF you're just as bad as that transfer request thread sometimes. We signed him after his leg was snapped and while he was out for the season. He came because he made trouble and forced the move. The cheapness was a combination of the 2. Don't see how that can be argued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Taylor had an understanding with Colo that Perch simply does not have, or is capable of having. But Colo was the weak link on Wednesday, not perch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Sorry Fish. Just exasperating for us folk who've been listening to the European talk on here for the past few months and trying to temper it with the fact the squad is far too bare/poor to cope with inevitable injury and suspension, to then be told 2 points from 18 is fine because we have injuries and suspensions. Anyone who thinks things are going to improve on that score as the season goes on and we have the intensive xmas period is living in cloud cuckoo land. This is the risk we knew Ashley was taking, there's a reason Barfa was so cheap (11 games in 2 years or summat) and Marveaux was so cheap (half an appearance?) and Gosling (1 game) and Santon (3 games), we all had questions over their fitness when they arrived.....Ba is another and that risk paid off big style, for now (ACN is going to be a nightmare). We've got 9 players with 14 appearances or more from our 17 league games. That's an impressively consistent Iineup we've been able to put out. I think we're doing remarkably well to go into the Bolton game with only Taylor missing from the first 11 that went on that outstanding run. Because of the one thread on Europe started by a notorious wum ? Your post is based on the assumption that other clubs refused correctly to take risks on these players but because of our risk-taking owner we ignored the signs that other clubs were afraid of and are now reaping the consequences? Thats bollocks man. Ben Arfa transfer has nothing to do with injuries, Marveaux was out of contract and ran it down to smooth a move to England which leaves you with Santon and Gosling as the examples of a inherently risky transfer policy. Its being too mean to have expensive wages on the bench and bad luck, nothing more complicated. I think the main point being ignored by many is how valuable S Taylor was to us. I know he is not popular but the increase in number of goals conceded since he went out the side is remarkable. Its clear that the other half of the problem is that there was no one to replace him but he was playing really well and formed a great partnership with Colo. Anyway "all the European talk on here for months" forced me to log in and tell you to shut up. What a load of bollocks, the last 3 weeks have been dominated by doubts over Pardew, for the later part of our amazing run when we hit 3rd spot there was some legitimate optimism and one thread on the topic. Dont try and portray Though marveaux was knocked back by Liverpool on fitness and stoke wouldn't risk Ba. You're talking bollocks if you think Gosling and santon were the only players ashley signed with dodgy legs. Edited December 24, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Nice to hear from you again though, you've been pretty quiet for a few weeks. Nowt to do with our form i'm sure as you're always keen to point the finger at those who fail to post in a match thread when the result/performance confounds their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeris 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Taylor had an understanding with Colo that Perch simply does not have, or is capable of having. But Colo was the weak link on Wednesday, not perch. perch will always be a weak link ffs. he failed at marking his man during two of those goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Sorry Fish. Just exasperating for us folk who've been listening to the European talk on here for the past few months and trying to temper it with the fact the squad is far too bare/poor to cope with inevitable injury and suspension, to then be told 2 points from 18 is fine because we have injuries and suspensions. Anyone who thinks things are going to improve on that score as the season goes on and we have the intensive xmas period is living in cloud cuckoo land. This is the risk we knew Ashley was taking, there's a reason Barfa was so cheap (11 games in 2 years or summat) and Marveaux was so cheap (half an appearance?) and Gosling (1 game) and Santon (3 games), we all had questions over their fitness when they arrived.....Ba is another and that risk paid off big style, for now (ACN is going to be a nightmare). We've got 9 players with 14 appearances or more from our 17 league games. That's an impressively consistent Iineup we've been able to put out. I think we're doing remarkably well to go into the Bolton game with only Taylor missing from the first 11 that went on that outstanding run. exactly. Can't quite get my head around "knowledgeable" supporters, who think selling your best players and pocketing the cash is "progress" and getting good results against the poorer teams means the season ends in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 our injury woes aren't even bad. Steven Taylor is the only injured first teamer. And he ain't coming back soon. If that's all it takes to descend into relegation form of 2 points out of 18, then we really should be worried. Behave yourself Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie, Colo, Williamson and to an extent HBA... they are all short of fitness/suspended so don't play like we've a full strength team missing only one centre half. It's disingenuous Sorry Fish. Just exasperating for us folk who've been listening to the European talk on here for the past few months and trying to temper it with the fact the squad is far too bare/poor to cope with inevitable injury and suspension, to then be told 2 points from 18 is fine because we have injuries and suspensions. Anyone who thinks things are going to improve on that score as the season goes on and we have the intensive xmas period is living in cloud cuckoo land. This is the risk we knew Ashley was taking, there's a reason Barfa was so cheap (11 games in 2 years or summat) and Marveaux was so cheap (half an appearance?) and Gosling (1 game) and Santon (3 games), we all had questions over their fitness when they arrived.....Ba is another and that risk paid off big style, for now (ACN is going to be a nightmare). We've got 9 players with 14 appearances or more from our 17 league games. That's an impressively consistent Iineup we've been able to put out. I think we're doing remarkably well to go into the Bolton game with only Taylor missing from the first 11 that went on that outstanding run. Because of the one thread on Europe started by a notorious wum ? Your post is based on the assumption that other clubs refused correctly to take risks on these players but because of our risk-taking owner we ignored the signs that other clubs were afraid of and are now reaping the consequences? Thats bollocks man. Ben Arfa transfer has nothing to do with injuries, Marveaux was out of contract and ran it down to smooth a move to England which leaves you with Santon and Gosling as the examples of a inherently risky transfer policy. Its being too mean to have expensive wages on the bench and bad luck, nothing more complicated. I think the main point being ignored by many is how valuable S Taylor was to us. I know he is not popular but the increase in number of goals conceded since he went out the side is remarkable. Its clear that the other half of the problem is that there was no one to replace him but he was playing really well and formed a great partnership with Colo. can I just say that I've been saying this for years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I agree about Colo-he was poor against WBA. Pardew should have adjusted our high line though, Long and Odemwinge were raping us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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