BigWalrus 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Is he worth £30m? I'm not sure we'd get that much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) I really can't see them paying the price for him and I don't think he'd be desperate for a move there. If there was anything in any potential swap deal, Ashley would value Ben Arfa at a hell of a lot higher than Carroll (who's done very little in two seasons now). Carroll's value will by the end of this season fallen to sub £10m and I have a feeling Ben Arfa will be immense for the rest of the season. If that does happen £30m would certainly not be out of the question. I also think that if there was any chance of this, bigger clubs than the bin dippers would come in for him and I can't see why he would choose them at that stage. I'm not confident he will stay though as I think he's a player of more than enough quality to be playing at the very best teams and if we're not going to make the commitment to try and get up with those teams he would be well within his rights to look to move on. Edited February 6, 2013 by David Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/05/liverpool-newcastle-hatem-ben-arfa How's that for bad news? Liverpool want to sign Ben Arfa. And we somehow come out of that deal with Carroll, as if that makes it ok. My hatred of Liverpool would be forever entrenched if this happened. Bull shit article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 He said he'd be open to a move to PSG, more likely if NUFC continued to show a lack of ambition. Then again he's never hidden the fact that he'd leave us for a major club that can guarantee a starting place. Nowt wrong with that, given he's fully committed to us on the pitch. However him leaving to Liverpool () when we've just signed a shedload of french players, either established or future internationals would be unthinkable. When he comes back to full fitness he'll be with international squad mates week in, week out - that's an attractive proposition our club has to offer french players. Non-story from a liverpool-supporting journalist most probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGATRON1000 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21921 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 i'd love to see at least one full injury-free season from him before he fucks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloopJohn 0 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 i'd love to see at least one full injury-free season from him before he fucks off. exactly. rather have one last crack with him being fit and firing to see how far we can go, particularly with this new squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubiousBobcat 0 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't think we will ever get a full season out of him. Hate to think this but I can't see him in the black and white after the summer transfer window. Hope to be proved wrong though! The wrapping in cotton wool effect after his injuries seems a little OTT for me and I can't wait to have him back in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Should have scored that chance but at least he's now got some minutes under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Yeah he's done well considering he's been out for a while. Decent enough perfomance tonight but Anzhi were always going to make it difficult for dribblers tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Granted I was in and out of the match whilst slaving away after a house full of 8 year olds over for tea, but I don't recall HBA doing anything decent all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 How many forwards can you recall doing ''something decent''? What does this tell you about the way the game was played & the tactics employed by both managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Played like he was short of match fitness. Should've scored, but he did well to get into the position to take the chance. The shit pitch didn't do any of our players favours, although as a whole I think the team still didn't pass it well enough. I'd rest HBA v Stoke and give him a game with the reserves instead - not sure how good getting bits kicked out of him would be against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Granted I was in and out of the match whilst slaving away after a house full of 8 year olds over for tea, but I don't recall HBA doing anything decent all night. So basically the 10 or so minutes you did manage to piece together he didn't do much? The commentators mentioned they thought he looked like he was instructed to just take it easy basically and for once I agree with them. Just out there to cause trouble when he gets a chance, have a bit of a run out but nothing silly. Looked shattered when coming off just after that chance so no surprise he didn't get it perfect. Good run out and that's the main thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonarmy2012 0 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Weclome Ben Comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 So basically the 10 or so minutes you did manage to piece together he didn't do much? The commentators mentioned they thought he looked like he was instructed to just take it easy basically and for once I agree with them. Just out there to cause trouble when he gets a chance, have a bit of a run out but nothing silly. Looked shattered when coming off just after that chance so no surprise he didn't get it perfect. Good run out and that's the main thing So you agree after your rant that he did nowt special A "good run out" is not the main thing. He could have got that in a reserve match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Might have been difficult to get the potential Russian champions to play our reserves thousands of miles from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 All things considered, being out of the game for so long. I thought he did okay, nothing special and he looked knackered when he came off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 So you agree after your rant that he did nowt special A "good run out" is not the main thing. He could have got that in a reserve match Just a bit strange you pick out Ben Arfa after seeing so little of the game but when talking about Marveaux you blame it on him being played out of position Obviously there is no agenda here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Just a bit strange you pick out Ben Arfa after seeing so little of the game but when talking about Marveaux you blame it on him being played out of position Obviously there is no agenda here. Stop being so defensive man Ben Arfa was the main "big decision" last night. It might have come off but it didnt. Move along. I think I also said we were pretty poor once we crossed the half way line which points the finger at all the wide and forward players. However it is no great surprise that Obertan isnt great and Marveaux is poor on the wing. Lots of so called injuries and excuses were flying around last night such as Cisse's injury, Shola and Jonas not suiting plastic pitches etc. I think the bottom line as Paddock Lad called yesterday was that had we won at Swansea then a different team may have travelled / played last night. I dont know how many times I have to say it to you but I have no problem with Ben Arfa. He's very exciting and sometimes brilliant, I just dont hero worship him as some seem to love doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 There really is no hope with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Saying Ben Arfa "did well" is stretching the term like. I think Jonny got the right level of effusiveness...the best you can say is he played an hour didn't get injured. One shot (the only one we managed on target) and a couple of dribbles. But we never looked like an attacking force at any point. He didn't see enough of the ball to get back up to speed. We got the best result any visiting team has managed there though. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ben Arfa was the main "big decision" last night. It might have come off but it didnt. Move along. In what way did it not come off? Were you expecting a hatrick from him? The focus last night was on keeping a clean sheet and we did, there was very little emphasis on scoring. What would you have done? Play Shola? Campbell? Or play our saviour Marveaux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL 0 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ben Arfa was the main "big decision" last night. It might have come off but it didnt. Move along. Really? I'll raise you playing Perch at center half ahead of Steven Taylor, when we were setting out to not concede. That big decision paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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