Christmas Tree 4821 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Apparently hast been at the training camp..... #missingagain? #havingamedicalsomewhere? #sickrelativeinTunisia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3107 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 By 'apparently' do you mean according to twitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3107 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Read that Ben Arfa would be open to a move to PSG. That didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 “It is normal to have a great team in Paris,” “It’s a great city and wasn’t logical that there was not a great club there. “Now we'll see, but I think there are many players who will not come because it’s the French championship - look at Tevez. “Even with the Champions League. There will need to be least two or three other clubs at the same level or I think the stars will struggle to come.” “For me, it's different, I am French so it’s not the same as it is the championship of France. It’s not the same relationship for Tevez. “It is as if, with all due respect, I was told to go to a big club in Switzerland, I would not go.” "You never know what will happen tomorrow, I do not know [PSG coach Carlo] Ancelotti too well.” Blatantly angling for a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wouldn't blame him tbf. We've wasted a golden opportunity if he moves on as well imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimalraja 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Source: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/01/25/goalkeeper-fraser-forster-set-to-join-celtic-72703-30193599/2/ Meanwhile, United star Hatem Ben Arfa was given permission not to attend this week's training camp in Tenerife. The player was invited by the French FA to make the draw for the last 16 of the French Cup. But Ben Arfa is expected to link up with United again tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 A summary of his performance against Fulham. Hatem Ben Arfa “He [ben Arfa] needs to put in more effort for this team. He doesn’t have to be less maverick. That is his strength. What we do need from him is discipline.” This season, Pardew has been hesitant about introducing Ben Arfa into the starting line up, alluding that his lack of defensive qualities and being able to keep the ball one of his downfalls. In this game, you could see both sides of the coin. Other than Tim Krul, he had the poorest pass completion rate (62%) and lost out in more than half of his ground duels (8/19). He lost possession of the ball more times out of all the Newcastle players (25 times, next highest Krul 20, Santon 17) and was dispossessed more times than any player on the pitch (9). With his skill and trickery, Ben Arfa does like to carry the ball, rather than pass it, sometimes taking on a man too many and losing the ball cheaply – something that Pardew is nervous about, as he adopts the safety-first approach first. However, he is one of the few Newcastle players that can produce a piece of magic from nothing at all. Offensively, he gives Newcastle a lot of options, as shown by his goal and his assist for Danny Guthrie’s goal. He attempted 5 dribbles on Saturday and was successful in all 5. The previous week, he was influential in creating the chance for Leon Best’s winning goal against QPR and his FA Cup goal against Blackburn underlined his offensive qualities. Against Bolton on Boxing Day, he came on as substitute and changed the game, scoring the opening goal in the process. It’s a difficult decision for Pardew, despite what Ben Arfa offers going forward, he has the tendency to give the ball away cheaply at times. Pardew has already stated that Hatem’s natural position is the ‘number 10’, but with the manager’s preferred formation of 4-4-2 – Ben Arfa doesn’t fit into his plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 878 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 He's been badly mismanaged under Pardew imo. I don't care if that makes me a fanboy. Anyone of his class would be a bit cheesed off if they were sat on the bench watching dross like Obertan and Shola getting in the team before them and rightfully so. That said, those quotes don't really look like he fancies a move at present. Sounds like he's saying the project isn't quite off the ground yet and that they'll struggle to attract top players, and the rest of the French league isn't quite up to standard either, so he's not interested. I could be grasping at straws like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3107 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I think you might be. Definitely testing the waters at least. And it would be a massive shame if we lost him he is a special player and Pardew should send him out every week with instructions to play his way. He does anyway so why piss the guy off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3107 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yep. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Cabaye didn't manage it on Saturday though when HBA's lost posession led to their first goal, the 4 that followed and our utter humiliation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Scored 1, set up 1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Apparently hast been at the training camp..... #missingagain? #havingamedicalsomewhere? #sickrelativeinTunisia? Dear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Scored 1, set up 1 though. Aye and if the ref hadn't made an abysmal decision their '1st goal' would have been a free kick. I agree with others we need to let him play to his strengths and cover him, we didn't play players like Robert expecting him to retain possession and track back, when we have Tiote we can definitely afford a 'luxury' player especially one that has provided 2 goals and 2 assists in his last 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Scored 1, set up 1 though. Aye and if the ref hadn't made an abysmal decision their '1st goal' would have been a free kick. I agree with others we need to let him play to his strengths and cover him, we didn't play players like Robert expecting him to retain possession and track back, when we have Tiote we can definitely afford a 'luxury' player especially one that has provided 2 goals and 2 assists in his last 3 games. Aye. Statistically, our 'luxury' player has been doing pretty well in the past few games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Man 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If the reason why he hasn't been a regular starter is because he's lazy then I don't think anyone can have any complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If the reason why he hasn't been a regular starter is because he's lazy then I don't think anyone can have any complaints. Lazy or not, he's made far more of a positive contribution in terms of goals and assists than Obertan, the man who kept him out of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 i don't care how many times HBA takes on a player and losses it tbh, thats why we have cabaye and tiote to clean up after him and give it back to start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If the reason why he hasn't been a regular starter is because he's lazy then I don't think anyone can have any complaints. Lazy or not, he's made far more of a positive contribution in terms of goals and assists than Obertan, the man who kept him out of the team. Plus Obertan very rarely makes a tackle anyway, the man's a total coward who hides from the ball and opposition players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 How Shola is ahead of him after his dire performances this season is beyond me. If you wanna go on about lazyness and tracking back then Shola is at the top of the list and not Ben Arfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Man 0 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If the reason why he hasn't been a regular starter is because he's lazy then I don't think anyone can have any complaints. Lazy or not, he's made far more of a positive contribution in terms of goals and assists than Obertan, the man who kept him out of the team. He might be better than Obertan, but it isn't fair to put a player not trying into the team and replacing someone who gives it their all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Obertan works hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3107 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If the reason why he hasn't been a regular starter is because he's lazy then I don't think anyone can have any complaints. Lazy or not, he's made far more of a positive contribution in terms of goals and assists than Obertan, the man who kept him out of the team. He might be better than Obertan, but it isn't fair to put a player not trying into the team and replacing someone who gives it their all. ???? This is too stupid to be a serious statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Scored 1, set up 1 though. Aye and if the ref hadn't made an abysmal decision their '1st goal' would have been a free kick. I agree with others we need to let him play to his strengths and cover him, we didn't play players like Robert expecting him to retain possession and track back, when we have Tiote we can definitely afford a 'luxury' player especially one that has provided 2 goals and 2 assists in his last 3 games. Aye. Statistically, our 'luxury' player has been doing pretty well in the past few games! Not so. Aoparently he fares very poorly on ProZone. Primarily because of how much he gives the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The fact of the matter is that Ben Arfa is going to be more effective when we have Ba and Cisse in the team and the likes of Tiote sweeping up in front of the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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