WilsonNufc 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I was having a discussion with my mate at work yesterday and I was amazed at how different our views are on Newcastles best XI over the last 10 seasons. I was wondering what others thought our best XI would be and how many of the current crop would appear in this team? Mine was as follows: ...........................Given.................................. Beye.....Coloccini......Woodgate.......Bernard Solano.......Speed........Dyer..............Robert ..................Shearer.....Bellamy..................... Dyer is probably a controversial choice but I was a huge fan of his and was very exciting to watch when on form. How do other peoples teams differ to this? Iv been racking my brain for hours now and have a feeling Im missing one or two players but cant think of who... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Toon 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's going to largely be the side that competed so well in the Champions League, but with the likes of Colo, Enqrique and Beye, as you said. I don't think there's much room for discussion at the moment, but in a couple of years we may be able to fully justify putting the likes of Ba, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tioté and Krul in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7182 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Enrique ahead of Bernard for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Enrique ahead of Bernard for me By a mile. And it's much too early to consider putting the likes of Cabaye etc into this list, they need to put in at least one consistently good season. Also f it weren't for Speed, I'd have said Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Enrique ahead of Bernard for me By a mile. And it's much too early to consider putting the likes of Cabaye etc into this list, they need to put in at least one consistently good season. Also f it weren't for Speed, I'd have said Tiote. That's absolutely true, but in that case the whole concept of the OP becomes a bit pointless. ie if you only qualify for selection after at least one season nobody acquired since promotion is even available for consideration. Just call it '2000-relegation best XI' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Well that's wrong, in fact I nominated Tiote and agreed with Enrique in that very post. I'm talking about players we bought in the summer. edit; although if we're talking about current form specifically then fair enough. Edited November 28, 2011 by Tecato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Think it's generous to put Enrique in from his one good top flight season. He's a better player than Bernard now, but it was a long time coming. I wonder how much quicker he might have settled had Allardyce not played Zoggy ahead of him. Even if he was making mistakes, at least he'd have been learning. I don't think he needed the protection Allardyce gave him early on, he wasn't a teenager or owt, he was 21+ when he came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Well that's wrong, in fact I nominated Tiote and agreed with Enrique in that very post. I'm talking about players we bought in the summer. edit; although if we're talking about current form specifically then fair enough. I'm just saying anyone can say 'flash in the pan' for practically anyone bought since promotion as it's valid to say "well x did it for season after season, y has only been here a year". So while its reasonable to say it, it makes it a bit daft too as it's essentially an unreal concept to begin with. And anyone not putting Enrique needs a psychiatric referral, he's the best toon LB in my lifetime, never mind the last 11 years, and thats despite being shit for consecutive seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'm still so bitter about Enrique that I've not watched a full 90 minutes of a Liverpool match and probably won't till we play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Well that's wrong, in fact I nominated Tiote and agreed with Enrique in that very post. I'm talking about players we bought in the summer. edit; although if we're talking about current form specifically then fair enough. I'm just saying anyone can say 'flash in the pan' for practically anyone bought since promotion as it's valid to say "well x did it for season after season, y has only been here a year". So while its reasonable to say it, it makes it a bit daft too as it's essentially an unreal concept to begin with. And anyone not putting Enrique needs a psychiatric referral, he's the best toon LB in my lifetime, never mind the last 11 years, and thats despite being shit for consecutive seasons. S'pose that's where it needs clarification...the better servant of NUFC, or the best player to pull on the shirt....the impartial observer might put Kluivert ahead of Bellamy if it's the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonNufc 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Some fair points. I was torn between Enrique and Bernard but I wa always a big fan of Bernard and thought Enrique only had one good season in prem, Bernard had a few more. Also agree with the Tiote remarks, I was tempted but again think over a sustained period of time Dyer and Speed were class acts in the middle and in a few years time I can see Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Krul etc being in that team if they keep up their form. How about another angle on this, what is the worst XI you have witnessed since 2000 to grace the NUFC top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonNufc 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Worst NUFC XI since 2000: .............................Perez............................ Carr.......Boumsong....Cacapa...Babayaro Geremi.........Faye.......Gavilan.....Cordone .....................Xisco............Andersson Again I dont think Carr was particularly crap all the time but I cant think of anyone worsee since 2000. Cordone wasnt a left winger but he had to fit in somewhere and couldnt think of another one who was worse. Any improvements on my team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Andersen was gone in 1999, switch for Luque. I'm sure there are plenty of other options though. Could add in the likes of Bassades, or that guy Wise got on loan that never played. Personally, from this era I hated seeing Nicky Butt's name in the team virtually every week while he was here. I never liked him and he was fucking shit, even if he "gave his all" apparently. Edited November 28, 2011 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Nicky Butt was mainly having a laugh, we were clueless to extend his career. Abject lesson in just matching someones wages and then not demanding the same standards of them they'd been used to elsewhere. Only human nature that they'll just think you're a joke. Edited November 28, 2011 by manc-mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Worst NUFC XI since 2000: .............................Perez............................ Carr.......Boumsong....Cacapa...Babayaro Geremi.........Faye.......Gavilan.....Cordone .....................Xisco............Andersson Again I dont think Carr was particularly crap all the time but I cant think of anyone worsee since 2000. Cordone wasnt a left winger but he had to fit in somewhere and couldnt think of another one who was worse. Any improvements on my team? Alan Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43115 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Worst NUFC XI since 2000: .............................Perez............................ Carr.......Boumsong....Cacapa...Babayaro Geremi.........Faye.......Gavilan.....Cordone .....................Xisco............Andersson Again I dont think Carr was particularly crap all the time but I cant think of anyone worsee since 2000. Cordone wasnt a left winger but he had to fit in somewhere and couldnt think of another one who was worse. Any improvements on my team? Did Perez ever play a senior game for us? Don't think he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43115 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 And i'm having Rob Lee over Dyer in the original list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Absolutely loved Rob Lee (my favorite player growing up) but I'm not sure if his later years would put him over Dyer. He was still useful and very steady but he had lost the attacking edge from his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonNufc 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Worst NUFC XI since 2000: .............................Perez............................ Carr.......Boumsong....Cacapa...Babayaro Geremi.........Faye.......Gavilan.....Cordone .....................Xisco............Andersson Again I dont think Carr was particularly crap all the time but I cant think of anyone worsee since 2000. Cordone wasnt a left winger but he had to fit in somewhere and couldnt think of another one who was worse. Any improvements on my team? Did Perez ever play a senior game for us? Don't think he did I wasnt sure but couldnt think of anybody else that deserved to be worst keeper! Harper, Given, Krul. I think John Karelse made more than one senior appearance didnt he? If so I'll replace Perez with Karelse. I was thinking Rob Lee but thought his best years were late 90's for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43115 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'll have a shit Rob Lee over a fit Dyer any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonNufc 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'll have a shit Rob Lee over a fit Dyer any day. When both in their prime Rob Lee would walk into the team ahead of Dyer any day, that cant be argued really. But as the question was for a team from 2000, I dont think Rob Lee in the last season and a half at NUFC offered more than Dyer did in his time from 2000 onwards. A NUFC team from 1990 onwards would certainly see Lee in CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2991 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 i would have andy o'brien replace woodgate... enrique for bernard... lee for dyer... Personally, from this era I hated seeing Nicky Butt's name in the team virtually every week while he was here. I never liked him and he was fucking shit, even if he "gave his all" apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Faye in the worst? Dont agree with that like, Id have liked him to stay with us. I also rated Domi as a LB. But I think the player that enrique became has been the best we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 i would have andy o'brien replace woodgate You're joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) Anyone else feel they should get a semi at the thought of a Woodgate/Collocini partnership? Or would two cool bastards together not work. Edited November 28, 2011 by NJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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