TicTacWoe 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 just shouldn't have mentioned the selfish thing on the very day of the man's death at least. Well anyway, enough about Barton. He's really of no consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Jesus, I've just got back and read this. Utterly speechless, shocked and bemused. Really struggling to take it in. RIP Speedo, I can't even begin to imagine what caused this, he really didn't seem to have such a thing about him, always a top bloke, professional and laid back kind of guy when I've seen him in the media, poor, poor bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It shouldn't need saying why you don't use the word selfish on the day of someones death, staggered that people are condoning it to be honest. As said earlier Barton is scum always will be, complete and utter attention seeking, the cunt sickens me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Agreed that the timing of such comments is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Words fail me - so many good memories of him. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Fine tribute being offered at the Swansea match. Chants of 'There's only one Gary Speed' leaving a chill down the spine. Not sure a minutes applause is all that appropriate for a young man taking his own life. I suppose it was spontaneous and people choose to show their respects in different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Not sure a minutes applause is all that appropriate for a young man taking his own life. I suppose it was spontaneous and people choose to show their respects in different ways. Agreed. Was a little weird when some people started applauding, but it came from a good place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Robbie Savage sounds absolutely devastated on the 606 phone-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I read a good quote today. MYTH: Suicide is chosen. FACT: It is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds the resources for coping with pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Magpie 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 absolutely gutted legend in whatever club he played for leeds us bolton wales. turned our ntional team around and started winning ways R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Robbie Savage sounds absolutely devastated on the 606 phone-in. He looked it this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Wow. Just got in from work hadn't heard about this at all. Very sad. Just read this page and from what I can gather Barton has caused some uproar with his tweet about suicide being a selfish act. I don't have a problem with that implication. People can argue over timing and so on, but it really doesn't add up to much: a very unfortunate act has occurred and the nature of the act will always provoke discussion, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it can potentially lead to a better understanding of issues that are seldom talked of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It's put me on a bit of a downer today, such a class bloke, dead down to earth, Howard Wilkinson was saying he had more ability than most footballers, and more humility than any of them. Contrast him with Joey Barton, an utter self-absorbed pseudo-intellectual prick, who has just chosen to call Speed selfish on twitter on a day like today. tbh I think a bit much is being made of the Barton thing. His tweet was "Suicide is a mix of the most tragic, most selfish, most terrible (and I want to believe preventable) acts out there." I think he was merely pointing out the whole futility of it. Words that can be taken wrong I agree but it clearly wasnt meant as a slur on Speedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It's selfish in the sense that it is an act committed in the knowledge that it will cause a great deal of pain to those who are close to you. I think near 50% of manic depressives who go untreated end up committing suicide, could well be wrong though. I read a little about it as I was shocked by one particular case because of the person involved. That's when I first realised that there are some people with a genetic predisposition to depression who require lifelong treatment. I hadn't recognized the distinction between depression as a serious illness and people who are going through a rough patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It's put me on a bit of a downer today, such a class bloke, dead down to earth, Howard Wilkinson was saying he had more ability than most footballers, and more humility than any of them. Contrast him with Joey Barton, an utter self-absorbed pseudo-intellectual prick, who has just chosen to call Speed selfish on twitter on a day like today. tbh I think a bit much is being made of the Barton thing. His tweet was "Suicide is a mix of the most tragic, most selfish, most terrible (and I want to believe preventable) acts out there." I think he was merely pointing out the whole futility of it. Words that can be taken wrong I agree but it clearly wasnt meant as a slur on Speedo. Aye, I think that's it. Of course he could have chosen a better time to point this out but as I and others have already said, he has also tweeted several good things about Speed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 we never should have sold him when we did either. our decline coincided with his departure and he went on to put in at least another three or four good years in at bolton. still stunned by this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4376 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 makes no sense this like that no one had any inkling that something might be wrong. I never watch Football Focus but just happened to see the last 2 minutes yesterday - he was on with McCallister and seemed his normal self. Now I can't help thinkling if he was sitting there being as amiable as ever with this on his mind. When I first saw the headline I thought it was going to be one of those out of the blue heart attack jobs that healthy blokes sometimes suffer from - suicide never crossed my mind for an instant which makes it so much harder as I've said on here before that I tend towards the harsher view of such things. I would however echo one aspect of Barton's view in that I always feel they should be preventable and it seems like a failure somehow when it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 That header against Charton was class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 That one against Blackburn at home was unreal. No idea how he got it in from that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Definitely one of the best headers on the ball we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 No one who has spoken publicly has said there was anything to indicate he was ill. To be honest it's not really any of our business what his internal life was like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Hugo Viana's tribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) Well done Hugo, great tribute. Seems like Speed was universally beloved, makes the whole thing all the more shocking/confusing. Edited November 27, 2011 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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