***Official Mike Ashley Euro express thread***

[JawD 99]

JawD fucking gagging on Ashley's cock there.

 

MMMfffmmmfmfmfmfm *spit spit*

[manc-mag 1]

Fuck sake man

 

You know what fucks me off about this constant loop of a debate? Or what could be a debate if we actually read what people put and replied to that and not just spouted the same old.. Its that there's no middle ground. You either suck Ashleys cock or you hate everything he does. The fact is, realism is in the middle.

 

Were we a selling club when we let Les go? Asprilla? Hamann? No. To this I dont think the Barton situation or Nolan makes us one either. What about Carroll? I think someone said it before. If a fucking stupid offer comes in for a player then we will take it, most clubs would. Its not about lack of desire, its about realism. Same as if a player wants 100k per week. We aint going to pay it. Who the fuck knows what our ceiling is? Do people still think its true cos its in the papers? Fact is, we have 20 odd blokes at the club now who dont have an issue.

 

Ok, so does this comment make me a Ashely cock sucker?

 

Now I think he is a gambler, we gambled on Tiote, Ba, Obertan, Colo, Ben Arfa, Perch, williamson etc to name a few. Every one of them a Gamble. Maybe not colo as we padi a fair bit for him but theres still no guarantee is there? But gambles they are. So far yes I think we have been lucky. I also think the squad is way too small and that is a gamble that will backfire at some point. We need quality in depth and he is too tight to see that, he'd rather take a chance. Plus losing Carroll and not replacing him was fucking idiotic, he was lucky that the Ba deal turned out as it did. I firmly believe Ba was to be a back up striker with another one to replace AC. Luck again.

 

Im not even going to start about what has gone on off the field. The stadium, the SD logo, the cost cutting and the sheer contempt of the fans. The bloke is a cunt but I think more so is the puppet (DL) he has running the show.

 

So what does that make me?

 

In the middle. I can see the good and I can see the bad. Stop living in the fucking past and complaining about things have havent even fucking happened yet. We're joint 5th by luck or judgement, the owner is a prick and the chairman an even bigger one. Deal with it and cheer the fuck up.

 

Straight talking common sense. Great post.

[toonotl 2979]

The point regarding the wages being a part of his thinking in any deal is a valid one, and only valid because this is how Mike Ashley thinks. Literally ANY other chairman, signs someone and their wage is calculated over a say a 5 year period. It's always worked that way so say we sign Cissokho on 50k a week, his wage will be £2.5m a year calculated in say 2016's wage budget of say £55m. It's a natural outgoing of a club per season. Ashley doesn't think that way, and the £35m for Carroll will be swallowed up by 5 year contracts. It's an absolute fucking joke, and there's no other way to look at it.

 

What he did would make sense if the £35m was taken to be extraordinary income and used in addition to our planned expenditure. However, it hasn't. And given that we're supposed to be near breaking even and looking like we may earn more money than planned through our league position then, 'where has the money gone?' is a valid question.

It's so fucking frustrating because he calculates the wage over the term of the contract as being the outgoing NOW. It's so fucking stupid because you're calculating the cost of a five year contract, who's to say any given player isn't to leave in 2 years time.

 

Are you sure that is the approach being taken? I thought that the transfer fee, plus agent fees, plus the first year of the wages were being considered not the entire contract that would be beyond taking the piss.

100% that's the approach being taken, even alluded to by Pardew and Llambias.

 

Yeh I heard Pardew going on about it around the time of the training ground upgrade. I interpreted it differently. I struggle to believe it could even be true. But if it is then that is utter shit.

It is unequivocally true. Wage over the length of contract plus agent fees is what they consider to be utilising surplus cash brought in from transfer outgoings.

 

Yeh well. There is nothing to say to that. I was already pissed off at the time with regards to a large chunk of the money not being reinvested in transfers. If I had have read what they were spouting in those terms (wages over the entire course of contract instead of just on a yearly basis) I don't know what I would have done.

 

Probably had a bigger whinge than I already did.

[Gemmill 44872]

Leazes slapping Ashley's cock out of JawD's mouth.

[manc-mag 1]

JawD fucking gagging on Ashley's cock there.

 

 

That's exactly how it scans in LM's mind like. Fucking mental.

[LeazesMag 0]

I agree with you, especially the last bit, there are too many people sucking his cock, and its because they are deluded and know nowt, basically.

 

 

You are the only one saying that people are so no suprises that you agree with yourself. Not surprised you forget what you have said. You sure as hell can't remember what anyone else has said so why should you remember what you have said yourself. Or was it the others again Leazes? Answer the question. Typical. Pipe down. Answer the question. Pocketing the cash etc.

 

where is the Carroll money ?

 

You're an out of towner, that knows fuck all. Say something, or say nothing.

 

I know that good strikers are worth more than £3 or £4 million.

 

apparently Mike Ashley thinks that's all they cost.

BA cost nothing, does a price tag or performances make a player?

 

so where is the money from the sale of Carroll ? Listen chum, a couple of other people have asked you this today/yesterday, and myself. YOU said we are 2 players away from being a "very good side", so do you think that your man is going to keep this side together and sign those 2 players [with the Carroll cash] or sell someone else valuable again ?

 

Take your time, with this fairly obvious and straightforward scenario. I realise it may task your tiny brain.

My man, lol, back there again are we

 

I've said over and over if a player wants to go and we get a massive offer they will sell. Will we get an offer big enough? Dunno, I'm not a psychic.

 

If we add a couple this window with no major outgoings that,imo,will be a good window. Even better if we tie up Collo

 

Do you understand, or are you going to keep asking me the same thing??

 

so, as myself, brummiemag and Stevie {think it was Stevie] has asked you today, do YOU think that your man will go and spend this money and attempt to bring in the 2 players you think will step us up to being a "very good side", without selling any of his best core players. After all, this is YOUR words and what you said yourself.

 

I'm trying to stay on track and be patient with you, because I realise you need educating.

[LeazesMag 0]

Fuck sake man

 

You know what fucks me off about this constant loop of a debate? Or what could be a debate if we actually read what people put and replied to that and not just spouted the same old.. Its that there's no middle ground. You either suck Ashleys cock or you hate everything he does. The fact is, realism is in the middle.

 

Were we a selling club when we let Les go? Asprilla? Hamann? No. To this I dont think the Barton situation or Nolan makes us one either. What about Carroll? I think someone said it before. If a fucking stupid offer comes in for a player then we will take it, most clubs would. Its not about lack of desire, its about realism. Same as if a player wants 100k per week. We aint going to pay it. Who the fuck knows what our ceiling is? Do people still think its true cos its in the papers? Fact is, we have 20 odd blokes at the club now who dont have an issue.

 

Ok, so does this comment make me a Ashely cock sucker?

 

Now I think he is a gambler, we gambled on Tiote, Ba, Obertan, Colo, Ben Arfa, Perch, williamson etc to name a few. Every one of them a Gamble. Maybe not colo as we padi a fair bit for him but theres still no guarantee is there? But gambles they are. So far yes I think we have been lucky. I also think the squad is way too small and that is a gamble that will backfire at some point. We need quality in depth and he is too tight to see that, he'd rather take a chance. Plus losing Carroll and not replacing him was fucking idiotic, he was lucky that the Ba deal turned out as it did. I firmly believe Ba was to be a back up striker with another one to replace AC. Luck again.

 

Im not even going to start about what has gone on off the field. The stadium, the SD logo, the cost cutting and the sheer contempt of the fans. The bloke is a cunt but I think more so is the puppet (DL) he has running the show.

 

So what does that make me?

 

In the middle. I can see the good and I can see the bad. Stop living in the fucking past and complaining about things have havent even fucking happened yet. We're joint 5th by luck or judgement, the owner is a prick and the chairman an even bigger one. Deal with it and cheer the fuck up.

 

Straight talking common sense. Great post.

 

did you say something ?

[donaldstott 0]

Not to mention the fact that there is a limit on the squad size and I, for one, would rather fill the squad with keen hungry youngsters than bitter, problematic overpaid scousers.

 

typical, generalisation that ignores the facts...what joke. Cherry picking one player is as much a nonsense as getting carried away by winning a few games. Get a life and sort yourself out. Accepting mediocrity is the name of your game.

 

The club does not have a bright future as portrayed by the opening poster of this thread. If you or anyone thinks I'm going to say differently when I don't believe it can think again.

 

You are wrong, just like people have been wrong for ages now.

 

I'd like to fill the squad with quality footballers who get into the top spots, raise the profile of the club again and attempt to challenge the other top teams, especially those who we should not be selling our best players to, and will not be done by a "sell, replace and pocket the cash" policy, and I fail to see what the label "problematic, overpaid scousers" has to do with anything whatsoever. What a foolish statement to make.

 

I'm not cherry picking. You mentioned three players Carroll, Nolan and Barton. £35m for Carroll is a ludicrous amount of money and has helped get the club back on an even keel. In Demba Ba we have a player who offers much more than Carroll. Whilst the, albeit aborted, attempt to get Maiga through the door shows that we want to add/improve to the strikers at the club. The other two are the "problematic, overpaid scousers". Neither warranted the contracts they requested, neither has been missed. In fact letting them go has led to the strongest dressing room we've had at any point since 94/5.

 

The best football clubs build teams who work for each other, not merely 11 players who expect success to come to them simply because they are on a good wedge.

 

Look at the Man U side over the years - The likes of O'Shea, Park, Wes Brown, Nicky Butt and Phil Neville won dozens of medals because they knew the value of a tight dressing room and they were prepared to work for the team, not because of outstanding ability, massive transfer fees or high wages.

 

The team we have now is stronger than the sum of its parts. This is the reason we are where we are.

[LeazesMag 0]

JawD fucking gagging on Ashley's cock there.

 

 

That's exactly how it scans in LM's mind like. Fucking mental.

 

not in the slightest bit surprised, you still don't get what has been explained to you so often. Strange, when both your local clubs are progressive clubs, and one of them has also been 2nd rate for many years, you don't recognise it even when the symptoms when they smack you on the head it would appear.

[McFaul 35]

JawD fucking gagging on Ashley's cock there.

 

MMMfffmmmfmfmfmfm *spit spit*

:lol:

[toonotl 2979]

People sucking Ashley's cock all over this thread.

 

Who? Where?

 

A zany image of a mirror

 

 

You are a clown.

 

I'm sorry mate. I don't want to do this. I said I wouldn't ignore people. But you are impossibly stupid and you are ruining this forum. You are valueless to any discussion on anything. See ya.

[LeazesMag 0]

Not to mention the fact that there is a limit on the squad size and I, for one, would rather fill the squad with keen hungry youngsters than bitter, problematic overpaid scousers.

 

typical, generalisation that ignores the facts...what joke. Cherry picking one player is as much a nonsense as getting carried away by winning a few games. Get a life and sort yourself out. Accepting mediocrity is the name of your game.

 

The club does not have a bright future as portrayed by the opening poster of this thread. If you or anyone thinks I'm going to say differently when I don't believe it can think again.

 

You are wrong, just like people have been wrong for ages now.

 

I'd like to fill the squad with quality footballers who get into the top spots, raise the profile of the club again and attempt to challenge the other top teams, especially those who we should not be selling our best players to, and will not be done by a "sell, replace and pocket the cash" policy, and I fail to see what the label "problematic, overpaid scousers" has to do with anything whatsoever. What a foolish statement to make.

 

I'm not cherry picking. You mentioned three players Carroll, Nolan and Barton. £35m for Carroll is a ludicrous amount of money and has helped get the club back on an even keel. In Demba Ba we have a player who offers much more than Carroll. Whilst the, albeit aborted, attempt to get Maiga through the door shows that we want to add/improve to the strikers at the club. The other two are the "problematic, overpaid scousers". Neither warranted the contracts they requested, neither has been missed. In fact letting them go has led to the strongest dressing room we've had at any point since 94/5.

 

The best football clubs build teams who work for each other, not merely 11 players who expect success to come to them simply because they are on a good wedge.

 

Look at the Man U side over the years - The likes of O'Shea, Park, Wes Brown, Nicky Butt and Phil Neville won dozens of medals because they knew the value of a tight dressing room and they were prepared to work for the team, not because of outstanding ability, massive transfer fees or high wages.

 

The team we have now is stronger than the sum of its parts. This is the reason we are where we are.

 

the best football teams back their managers, they don't sell their best players and pocket the cash.

 

End of.

 

The transfer record of the previous regime in its entirety has produced massively superior results to the current regime, stop cherry picking. Instead of talking about overpaid scousers, ask yourself about Robert and Bellamy for starters, and ManU seem to be happy enough to continue paying their overpaid scouser.

 

Still, I expect you think ManU get it all wrong while we are getting it all right. ManU, even when they have sold top players eg Ronaldo, Stam, have backed their manager completely. THIS coupled with the fact that he has been there for so long and is a winner that was not attracted anywhere else or pissed off with his board, is the reason why they have continued their success.

Edited January 17, 2012 by LeazesMag

[LeazesMag 0]

People sucking Ashley's cock all over this thread.

 

Who? Where?

 

A zany image of a mirror

 

 

You are a clown.

 

I'm sorry mate. I don't want to do this. I said I wouldn't ignore people. But you are impossibly stupid and you are ruining this forum. You are valueless to any discussion on anything. See ya.

 

shame, I didn't realise that you need everybody to agree with each other, even when the facts stare you in the face. Pun intended.

[toonotl 2979]

How do you place people on ignore?

 

edit: Sorted. Let the bliss commence.

Edited January 17, 2012 by toonotl

[Andrew 4748]

your name at the top right, manage ignore prefs

[manc-mag 1]

How do you place people on ignore?

 

Click on your profile and then 'manage ignore prefs' and add him.

 

The only time I've used that function in 10 years of using this place is for him btw.

[LeazesMag 0]

How do you place people on ignore?

 

edit: Sorted. Let the bliss commence.

 

what a big bairn

 

in toonotls little world, everybody now agrees with every word he says.

Edited January 17, 2012 by LeazesMag

[JawD 99]

Fuck sake man

 

You know what fucks me off about this constant loop of a debate? Or what could be a debate if we actually read what people put and replied to that and not just spouted the same old.. Its that there's no middle ground. You either suck Ashleys cock or you hate everything he does. The fact is, realism is in the middle.

 

Were we a selling club when we let Les go? Asprilla? Hamann? No. To this I dont think the Barton situation or Nolan makes us one either. What about Carroll? I think someone said it before. If a fucking stupid offer comes in for a player then we will take it, most clubs would. Its not about lack of desire, its about realism. Same as if a player wants 100k per week. We aint going to pay it. Who the fuck knows what our ceiling is? Do people still think its true cos its in the papers? Fact is, we have 20 odd blokes at the club now who dont have an issue.

 

Ok, so does this comment make me a Ashely cock sucker?

 

Now I think he is a gambler, we gambled on Tiote, Ba, Obertan, Colo, Ben Arfa, Perch, williamson etc to name a few. Every one of them a Gamble. Maybe not colo as we padi a fair bit for him but theres still no guarantee is there? But gambles they are. So far yes I think we have been lucky. I also think the squad is way too small and that is a gamble that will backfire at some point. We need quality in depth and he is too tight to see that, he'd rather take a chance. Plus losing Carroll and not replacing him was fucking idiotic, he was lucky that the Ba deal turned out as it did. I firmly believe Ba was to be a back up striker with another one to replace AC. Luck again.

 

Im not even going to start about what has gone on off the field. The stadium, the SD logo, the cost cutting and the sheer contempt of the fans. The bloke is a cunt but I think more so is the puppet (DL) he has running the show.

 

So what does that make me?

 

In the middle. I can see the good and I can see the bad. Stop living in the fucking past and complaining about things have havent even fucking happened yet. We're joint 5th by luck or judgement, the owner is a prick and the chairman an even bigger one. Deal with it and cheer the fuck up.

 

You're completely missing the point.

 

The whole, entire point is NOT selling Andy Carroll [or other clubs selling players], its that the money has disappeared, and the manager is not being allowed to re-spend this money and try to build on his best core of players . This is what selling clubs do, not progressive big clubs.

 

Howay JawD, you're not one of the thick cunts, surely YOU understand this ?

 

Thing in LM, I actually enjoy discussing with you, its when you go into overload and reset that I just give up.

 

Anyway, I was fucking fuming when it came to the end of the last window and we predictably didnt sign a forward as it was "too late". I equally think it was short sighted that at the emergence of Ba we shelved any plan to sign one this window. He's a chancer, a gambler. I can see how he is thinking now. "Why spend on a forward when we have Ba? We can get by without him at the ACN as we are safe enough not to go down". Its bollocks. As the lifeblood of the club, we all want progression. He wants stability.

 

You might recall that when we first sold Carroll we were told "the money will all go back on players". Then this changed to "the money will all go back in the club" as we heard about costs for the training ground etc. I run my own business, I understand the concept of what he is saying, but he lies so often I never believe him.

 

I fully expect that the Carroll money has been absorbed into the club. A mixture of low cost signings (taking into account wages over the contract and signing on fees / agents fees) and the window cleaner. He wants the club to pay for itself now so what I see happening is we buy 3 players for £5M. Then we sell one for £20M and use that to fund new contracts and new players. But, its a flawed plan as while he has been lucky so far with signings (mostly) we wont always have that kind of mark up on a player.

 

That said, the way I also see it now is that Ba, Tiote and Cabaye are much better than Carroll, Nolan and Barton. But Im not so blind as to think Tiote wont be sold. If we get offered £20M he will go. You'd be thick to think he wouldnt. Its then what happens. I think Im right in saying you think nothing will happen and the money will disappear like the Carroll money has (on the surface). I think that he will try and gamble on another player to replace him. £20M out, buy another £5M.

 

Also for the record, I think we'll sign no one this window.

[toonotl 2979]

How do you place people on ignore?

 

Click on your profile and then 'manage ignore prefs' and add him.

 

The only time I've used that function in 10 years of using this place is for him btw.

 

Says a lot.

[LeazesMag 0]

is this place becoming like Newcastle Online, full of bairns who jump up and down squealing when people don't agree with them ?

[LeazesMag 0]

Fuck sake man

 

You know what fucks me off about this constant loop of a debate? Or what could be a debate if we actually read what people put and replied to that and not just spouted the same old.. Its that there's no middle ground. You either suck Ashleys cock or you hate everything he does. The fact is, realism is in the middle.

 

Were we a selling club when we let Les go? Asprilla? Hamann? No. To this I dont think the Barton situation or Nolan makes us one either. What about Carroll? I think someone said it before. If a fucking stupid offer comes in for a player then we will take it, most clubs would. Its not about lack of desire, its about realism. Same as if a player wants 100k per week. We aint going to pay it. Who the fuck knows what our ceiling is? Do people still think its true cos its in the papers? Fact is, we have 20 odd blokes at the club now who dont have an issue.

 

Ok, so does this comment make me a Ashely cock sucker?

 

Now I think he is a gambler, we gambled on Tiote, Ba, Obertan, Colo, Ben Arfa, Perch, williamson etc to name a few. Every one of them a Gamble. Maybe not colo as we padi a fair bit for him but theres still no guarantee is there? But gambles they are. So far yes I think we have been lucky. I also think the squad is way too small and that is a gamble that will backfire at some point. We need quality in depth and he is too tight to see that, he'd rather take a chance. Plus losing Carroll and not replacing him was fucking idiotic, he was lucky that the Ba deal turned out as it did. I firmly believe Ba was to be a back up striker with another one to replace AC. Luck again.

 

Im not even going to start about what has gone on off the field. The stadium, the SD logo, the cost cutting and the sheer contempt of the fans. The bloke is a cunt but I think more so is the puppet (DL) he has running the show.

 

So what does that make me?

 

In the middle. I can see the good and I can see the bad. Stop living in the fucking past and complaining about things have havent even fucking happened yet. We're joint 5th by luck or judgement, the owner is a prick and the chairman an even bigger one. Deal with it and cheer the fuck up.

 

You're completely missing the point.

 

The whole, entire point is NOT selling Andy Carroll [or other clubs selling players], its that the money has disappeared, and the manager is not being allowed to re-spend this money and try to build on his best core of players . This is what selling clubs do, not progressive big clubs.

 

Howay JawD, you're not one of the thick cunts, surely YOU understand this ?

 

Thing in LM, I actually enjoy discussing with you, its when you go into overload and reset that I just give up.

 

Anyway, I was fucking fuming when it came to the end of the last window and we predictably didnt sign a forward as it was "too late". I equally think it was short sighted that at the emergence of Ba we shelved any plan to sign one this window. He's a chancer, a gambler. I can see how he is thinking now. "Why spend on a forward when we have Ba? We can get by without him at the ACN as we are safe enough not to go down". Its bollocks. As the lifeblood of the club, we all want progression. He wants stability.

 

You might recall that when we first sold Carroll we were told "the money will all go back on players". Then this changed to "the money will all go back in the club" as we heard about costs for the training ground etc. I run my own business, I understand the concept of what he is saying, but he lies so often I never believe him.

 

I fully expect that the Carroll money has been absorbed into the club. A mixture of low cost signings (taking into account wages over the contract and signing on fees / agents fees) and the window cleaner. He wants the club to pay for itself now so what I see happening is we buy 3 players for £5M. Then we sell one for £20M and use that to fund new contracts and new players. But, its a flawed plan as while he has been lucky so far with signings (mostly) we wont always have that kind of mark up on a player.

 

That said, the way I also see it now is that Ba, Tiote and Cabaye are much better than Carroll, Nolan and Barton. But Im not so blind as to think Tiote wont be sold. If we get offered £20M he will go. You'd be thick to think he wouldnt. Its then what happens. I think Im right in saying you think nothing will happen and the money will disappear like the Carroll money has (on the surface). I think that he will try and gamble on another player to replace him. £20M out, buy another £5M.

 

Also for the record, I think we'll sign no one this window.

 

Canny. Thing is JawD, lots of people say that when I post "good comments", I can be really interesting and one of the best posters.

 

What they don't realise, is I get these comments when I post about old players, old away trips etc, any of that sort of thing, but when I post about the politics of the club, I'm just coming from the same hymn sheet. The difference is they have a built in defence mechanism against the old regime, and simply won't accept ANYTHING favourable said about them. That's how it seems to me anyway. I can talk about the old regime in the same way as I talk about say, Wyn Davies or Tony Green, and people say "aye, great to hear stuff like that". But its the same thing, even when I spell out that nobody is perfect, they made mistakes like everyone, people put words into things which aren't said and infer something else. It's sad as fuck to be honest.

 

I don't know what gets into these people. I believed everything I said about them 1000% and still do, the 5th best comments is precisely that, it's fact, the same as saying Tony Green is the best player I ever saw play for the toon, or we won the Fairs Cup in 1969. Even when I say the great Joe Harvey {RIP} did it despite being hindered by a shit board, its fact, its fact just as much as when I say now that Pardew is having to suffer the same.

 

People just have blind spots, they won't listen. I wouldn't say these things so often if I didn't believe them.

 

Going into overload is just a response to the many people who have this blind spot, you have seen for yourself, if someone asks me something and I don't respond, they are all over me like a rash, yet today JSM [no offence I'm trying to make a helpful response here] has ignored it completely even when brummiemag and Stevie have asked the exact same points ?

 

We are in fact a selling club. ALL the events at the club show this. We are selling our best players, and not backing the manager. We should not be selling and replacing like this, we should be improving and selling those who are surplus to requirments, like the other big progressive clubs. Why are people arguing otherwise ? You tell me, because I'm fucked if I can see how they can't see it.

Edited January 17, 2012 by LeazesMag

[JawD 99]

I think the problem (with me anyway, fucked if Im saying others think like this). I accept the sale of Carroll and why. So, even though I expect Tiote to be sold, I even expect Ba to be sold and I can see Krul and Cabaye have some suitors. They havent sold them yet. So Im not about to worry about the next window until it arrives and they wont sell them in this one. As such, maybe we are not a selling club "yet" in that if (when?) we sell these we wont reinvest. Maybe Im being blinkered and yes maybe you have seen it all before and can see it coming again. But dont take my stance as being behind Ashley and certainly not Llambias who I actually dislike even more.

 

In some degrees, you could argue that we have the money from Carroll still and they we are waiting for the right deal. Well, to that Id ask the same about the Milner money etc. But I do think we will spend and spend before we sell someone. How much, on who and when? Fuck knows but Im not confident about this window.

[LeazesMag 0]

I think the problem (with me anyway, fucked if Im saying others think like this). I accept the sale of Carroll and why. So, even though I expect Tiote to be sold, I even expect Ba to be sold and I can see Krul and Cabaye have some suitors. They havent sold them yet. So Im not about to worry about the next window until it arrives and they wont sell them in this one. As such, maybe we are not a selling club "yet" in that if (when?) we sell these we wont reinvest. Maybe Im being blinkered and yes maybe you have seen it all before and can see it coming again. But dont take my stance as being behind Ashley and certainly not Llambias who I actually dislike even more.

 

In some degrees, you could argue that we have the money from Carroll still and they we are waiting for the right deal. Well, to that Id ask the same about the Milner money etc. But I do think we will spend and spend before we sell someone. How much, on who and when? Fuck knows but Im not confident about this window.

 

see mate, the direct equivalent to this, is perhaps the sale of Cole. Remember when Keegan went onto the steps, and spoke to the bloke who said to him that we are a selling club again ? Keegan said, that it was his decision and he would be allowed to manage the club in the way he saw fit and stand or fall by the decisions he made. This is how it should be. I wouldn't argue against Pardew selling Carroll, especially for the fee, but the difference is, unlike the sale of Cole where the club backed their manager and the money was recycled and we improved the team and spent the money and more in the summer, this has not happened, and is not going to.

 

The difference is obvious, and it's crucial too. It tells you EVERYTHING you need to know, for those who hadn't seen it previously.

 

We are a selling club, we sell our best players whether the manager wants to keep them or not, and crucially, we don't back him either in the way we should, like big clubs ought to do. It's nothing to do with Chelsea or Man City being bankrolled, we competed against Jack Walker bankrolling Blackburn in the past, it's all about Newcastle United and how we run our own club, and it is not being run correctly as it should be.

[jaythesouthernmag 0]

I agree with you, especially the last bit, there are too many people sucking his cock, and its because they are deluded and know nowt, basically.

 

 

You are the only one saying that people are so no suprises that you agree with yourself. Not surprised you forget what you have said. You sure as hell can't remember what anyone else has said so why should you remember what you have said yourself. Or was it the others again Leazes? Answer the question. Typical. Pipe down. Answer the question. Pocketing the cash etc.

 

where is the Carroll money ?

 

You're an out of towner, that knows fuck all. Say something, or say nothing.

 

I know that good strikers are worth more than £3 or £4 million.

 

apparently Mike Ashley thinks that's all they cost.

BA cost nothing, does a price tag or performances make a player?

 

so where is the money from the sale of Carroll ? Listen chum, a couple of other people have asked you this today/yesterday, and myself. YOU said we are 2 players away from being a "very good side", so do you think that your man is going to keep this side together and sign those 2 players [with the Carroll cash] or sell someone else valuable again ?

 

Take your time, with this fairly obvious and straightforward scenario. I realise it may task your tiny brain.

My man, lol, back there again are we

 

I've said over and over if a player wants to go and we get a massive offer they will sell. Will we get an offer big enough? Dunno, I'm not a psychic.

 

If we add a couple this window with no major outgoings that,imo,will be a good window. Even better if we tie up Collo

 

Do you understand, or are you going to keep asking me the same thing??

 

so, as myself, brummiemag and Stevie {think it was Stevie] has asked you today, do YOU think that your man will go and spend this money and attempt to bring in the 2 players you think will step us up to being a "very good side", without selling any of his best core players. After all, this is YOUR words and what you said yourself.

 

I'm trying to stay on track and be patient with you, because I realise you need educating.

1. He's not my man

2. As I said, if the right bid comes in and a player indicates he wants out then they will sell

3. Will we sign any players this window, I would like to think so but I prefer to comment on facts rather than speculate on ifs and buts

 

Stevie talks sense and has knowledge on a vast amount of subjects you post the same Shite, constantly. I wouldn't put you anywhere near him in knowledge about nufc and football in general

[manc-mag 1]

I agree with you, especially the last bit, there are too many people sucking his cock, and its because they are deluded and know nowt, basically.

 

 

You are the only one saying that people are so no suprises that you agree with yourself. Not surprised you forget what you have said. You sure as hell can't remember what anyone else has said so why should you remember what you have said yourself. Or was it the others again Leazes? Answer the question. Typical. Pipe down. Answer the question. Pocketing the cash etc.

 

where is the Carroll money ?

 

You're an out of towner, that knows fuck all. Say something, or say nothing.

 

I know that good strikers are worth more than £3 or £4 million.

 

apparently Mike Ashley thinks that's all they cost.

BA cost nothing, does a price tag or performances make a player?

 

so where is the money from the sale of Carroll ? Listen chum, a couple of other people have asked you this today/yesterday, and myself. YOU said we are 2 players away from being a "very good side", so do you think that your man is going to keep this side together and sign those 2 players [with the Carroll cash] or sell someone else valuable again ?

 

Take your time, with this fairly obvious and straightforward scenario. I realise it may task your tiny brain.

My man, lol, back there again are we

 

I've said over and over if a player wants to go and we get a massive offer they will sell. Will we get an offer big enough? Dunno, I'm not a psychic.

 

If we add a couple this window with no major outgoings that,imo,will be a good window. Even better if we tie up Collo

 

Do you understand, or are you going to keep asking me the same thing??

 

so, as myself, brummiemag and Stevie {think it was Stevie] has asked you today, do YOU think that your man will go and spend this money and attempt to bring in the 2 players you think will step us up to being a "very good side", without selling any of his best core players. After all, this is YOUR words and what you said yourself.

 

I'm trying to stay on track and be patient with you, because I realise you need educating.

1. He's not my man

2. As I said, if the right bid comes in and a player indicates he wants out then they will sell

3. Will we sign any players this window, I would like to think so but I prefer to comment on facts rather than speculate on ifs and buts

 

Stevie talks sense and has knowledge on a vast amount of subjects you post the same Shite, constantly. I wouldn't put you anywhere near him in knowledge about nufc and football in general

 

Stevie will be along shortly to magnanimously play this down, with his trademark certificate smile.