Davey Dave 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Apart from Adidas' first effort with us the shirts fluctuated from mediocre to poor and quite uncomfortable for the most part. I wish we went to Nike at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We look like a bunch of parafins in these strips, yet Tottenham's look classy. Why? They're the same sponsor. PUMA are generally wank though, I remember UMBRO were going to dump us if we went in Division 3 in 1992, and we were gonna be sponsored by "matchstick" who sponsored all the shit clubs, and I feel the same about PUMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Asics were a class apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Your chart doesn't work. How very dare you! What's up with it? It doesn't come up at all. Reload it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Your chart doesn't work. How very dare you! What's up with it? It doesn't come up at all. Reload it. http://s15.postimage.org/mrg20g76h/Turnover.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://s15.postimage...6h/Turnover.jpg Aye completely supporting my ignored main point. You should add 2011 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://s15.postimage...6h/Turnover.jpg Aye completely supporting my ignored main point. You should add 2011 on. There's no amounts out for 2011 yet is there? Happy to, if provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://s15.postimage...6h/Turnover.jpg Aye completely supporting my ignored main point. You should add 2011 on. There's no amounts out for 2011 yet is there? Happy to, if provided. Of course there is! Are you mental in the head? What have we been discussing for the last week? Tottenham 162m Villa 89m Newcastle 88m Everton 82m Sunderland 81m. Fulham - fuck knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Of course there is! Are you mental in the head? What have we been discussing for the last week? Tottenham 162m Villa 89m Newcastle 88m Everton 82m Sunderland 81m. Fulham - fuck knows. Chill out man angry dad, you're gonna do yourself a mischief. Where have those come from like? Missed that part of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We aren't ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29491 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Given that the club published it's 2010 results in March 2011, I'd be interested in seeing the 2011 results a month early. Edit:Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Also Liverpool's revenue has stagnated. http://s15.postimage...6h/Turnover.jpg Aye completely supporting my ignored main point. You should add 2011 on. There's no amounts out for 2011 yet is there? Happy to, if provided. There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.blogspot.com/search/label/Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Purely because thet haven't been in the CL for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBaNone 0 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What's happened to alex, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29491 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What's happened to alex, anyone? Gemmill asked that question earlier and the post was removed. Expect a knock on the door very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14000 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 He's took a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 It's at times like these that football pales into insignificance. In light of the absence of Alex, we are reminded how internet forums can be like crack. You get into a routine: up in the morning, cup of tea, few posts, oh no what's Stevie said... before you know it it's 3am and you've been made redundant. And for what? We could all be neurosurgeons by now if we'd use the time in a focused manner. Neurosurgeons with 6 figure salaries, ball-deep in pussy every night, because when you have a big income, you get big pussy. It's like Alex has held a mirror in our faces and forced us to look deep within ourselves, a sad day indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.blogspot.com/search/label/Liverpool Are revenue and turnover not subtly different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8694 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Are revenue and turnover not subtly different? Not in the UK: In business, revenue is income that a company receives from its normal business activities, usually from the sale of goods and services to customers. In many countries, such as the United Kingdom, revenue is referred to as turnover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Are revenue and turnover not subtly different? Not in the sense its being used here, no. Dont worry, until yesterday i thought the economy was flatlining and consumer spending was down across the board. I was further under the impression that the underlying fundamentals in the football sector were being dampened via these economic factors. I was also under the impression that business analysis was a bit more complicated that 'how much revenue did they make' or even 'is it growing' but you and Stevie have shown me the light. Football clubs everywhere are bouyant and on the up apart from us. Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Are revenue and turnover not subtly different? Not in the UK: In business, revenue is income that a company receives from its normal business activities, usually from the sale of goods and services to customers. In many countries, such as the United Kingdom, revenue is referred to as turnover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue do you ever post anything about football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41318 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 He's took a break RIP Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Are revenue and turnover not subtly different? Not in the sense its being used here, no. Dont worry, until yesterday i thought the economy was flatlining and consumer spending was down across the board. I was further under the impression that the underlying fundamentals in the football sector were being dampened via these economic factors. I was also under the impression that business analysis was a bit more complicated that 'how much revenue did they make' or even 'is it growing' but you and Stevie have shown me the light. Football clubs everywhere are bouyant and on the up apart from us. Aye. Thanks for imparting your knowledge. Some are on the up to varying degrees despite the economic situation, some have stagnated, several have gone into financial dire straits. We've more than doubled the size of our debt but wiped out year on year losses. What have I said that you don't agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Thanks for imparting your knowledge. Some are on the up to varying degrees despite the economic situation, some have stagnated, several have gone into financial dire straits. We've more than doubled the size of our debt but wiped out year on year losses. What have I said that you don't agree with? Everything! Not really. Of those still performing well, sound analysis extracts the difference between actual results and potential results and adjust for underlying trends across the business. 'Is it growing' is not an analysis of anything, its an observation. You might want to factor in (e.g. just within the commercial line) the breakdown of geographic sources of income e.g. UK, EU, RoW. Then you look at trends withing each region and overall demand levels. If Man U's commercial line is increasing, it may be because they have a large % of their commercial incomes coming from Asia-Pac which is growing as a market. Thus by standing stil there, they grow their income as the market grows. This growth rate may more than offset the proportional losses in UK commercial sales, returning a better commercial performance. For a club with a base-case of low to negligible business outside of the UK, the impact of the depression in the UK market will be greater. Bringing in clubs like Sunderland, Villa etc is fair here, not Man U / Arsenal etc as their fundamentals are different and hence drive off different market dynamics. I feel like i'm imparting more than just knowledge here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 There's an estimate for 2011 on the 8th graph down in this article which shows Liverpool's annual revenue flatlining despite rising TV revenue. Contrary to your i think. http://swissramble.b...label/Liverpool Thanks for imparting your knowledge. Some are on the up to varying degrees despite the economic situation, some have stagnated, several have gone into financial dire straits. We've more than doubled the size of our debt but wiped out year on year losses. What have I said that you don't agree with? Everything! Not really. Of those still performing well, sound analysis extracts the difference between actual results and potential results and adjust for underlying trends across the business. 'Is it growing' is not an analysis of anything, its an observation. You might want to factor in (e.g. just within the commercial line) the breakdown of geographic sources of income e.g. UK, EU, RoW. Then you look at trends withing each region and overall demand levels. If Man U's commercial line is increasing, it may be because they have a large % of their commercial incomes coming from Asia-Pac which is growing as a market. Thus by standing stil there, they grow their income as the market grows. This growth rate may more than offset the proportional losses in UK commercial sales, returning a better commercial performance. For a club with a base-case of low to negligible business outside of the UK, the impact of the depression in the UK market will be greater. Bringing in clubs like Sunderland, Villa etc is fair here, not Man U / Arsenal etc as their fundamentals are different and hence drive off different market dynamics. I feel like i'm imparting more than just knowledge here. So Spurs aren't better off now than they were in 2007? Lordy, I'm really learning from you here Master Po. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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