***Official Mike Ashley Euro express thread***

[LeazesMag 0]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

so they key drivers of the game, among supporters that go to games, isn't to qualify for europe or better, win a trophy, play in Cup Finals [at least for clubs of NUFC's stature]. I realise that those who don't go to games - and probably have no intention of going to games - may have different priorities. But that is something else I've always said too.

[LeazesMag 0]

my point stands, as it always has done.

 

Newcastle United under Mike Ashley will NEVER match those league positions of the old regime until or unless he stops selling our best players and backs his managers completely when the occasional one leaves to one of the major world clubs ie Real Madrid, Barca, ManU [maybe].

 

This is the only way to behave if you want consistent success, and it is has been proven in football ever since the professional game began. I realise some of the bairns and stupid element will interpret that as a guarantee, but that is stupid as saying having a shot at goal guarantees a goal, not really my problem is someone is stupid enough to think that.

 

One good season, great. The first one in 5 years, but look at the longer term too. You need to back your managers and stop selling your best players.

Funnier things have happened than us coming 4th this season like.

 

indeed they have, but they will have to do it a lot more than once for me to be wrong.

 

Ironically, unlike cretins like Gloomy [and others who don't really support the club in the true sense] I will be more than happy and admit that I was wrong, if Mike Ashley does wake up and start keeping his best players and backing his managers, that is why I paid upfront for 3 years season tickets, a fact that non-match goers also seem unable to grasp the significance of.

[LeazesMag 0]

LM blatantly shitting himself in case we finish top 5. his world will literally fall apart if he can't come on here every day bleating about being right about the new regime never being able to match the old one

 

haha. What a cretin. How much money upfront have YOU paid for season tickets to watch the team lose for the last 4 years and the next 3 ?

 

What a fucking arsehole you are.

[LeazesMag 0]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

I suspect you're about to get called "chum".

 

 

[Gemmill 46175]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

so they key drivers of the game, among supporters that go to games, isn't to qualify for europe or better, win a trophy, play in Cup Finals [at least for clubs of NUFC's stature]. I realise that those who don't go to games - and probably have no intention of going to games - may have different priorities. But that is something else I've always said too.

 

Oh dear. More comprehension issues.

[LeazesMag 0]

One swallow doesn't mean blowjobs for life like.

 

The Mackems were 6th at the start of Feb last season, and they ended up sacking their manager within the year.

 

some [well, quite a lot, including some self proclaimed intelligent people] people have resorted to mackems-type delusions then ?

[LeazesMag 0]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

so they key drivers of the game, among supporters that go to games, isn't to qualify for europe or better, win a trophy, play in Cup Finals [at least for clubs of NUFC's stature]. I realise that those who don't go to games - and probably have no intention of going to games - may have different priorities. But that is something else I've always said too.

 

Oh dear. More comprehension issues.

 

such as "throw more money at him" , which clearly wasn't, it was more basically, clueless, especially coming from an accountant.

[LeazesMag 0]

who asked you ?

 

no seriously, who the hell do you think you are to determine what i can and can't feel about our current predicament?

 

What an arrogant twonk you really are. Tit.

 

I'm right arrogant me like, aren't I ? [get it]

[manc-mag 1]

One swallow doesn't mean blowjobs for life like.

 

The Mackems were 6th at the start of Feb last season, and they ended up sacking their manager within the year.

 

This is really important this for me as it happens. It's a totally valid point and shows just how much (outside of the 'established' CL boys) you can go up and down in this league within very short periods.

 

For me the Mackems did well because they were spending big and that was generally bringing in a slightly better class of player, (principally up front). However their manager turned out to ultimately be a pile of wank that lost the plot, players decided the club was really a bit daft or otherwise not to their liking and hence that same team sank like a stone again, with some departures along the way. Now O'Neill has got that same side playing CL form football having hardly spent a penny. So it's neither proof that spending big is the answer or is a bad thing, it shows that the same players can send you up the league if they're feeling motivated or send you back down again if they think they're being run by a dickend/bunch of dickends they have no respect for. Bruce's spending allowed him to paper over the cracks of being an essentially drunken bellend with inadequate coping mechanisms in the face of adversity. That in itself is both an argument for getting the best players you can afford, but also keeping them motivated once theyre with you, and if you fail to do the latter, you've only got half the equation.

 

Leazes makes too much of the former and essentially dismisses the latter because he doesnt think it matters what standards of professionalism you demand once you've got expensive players in. Despite his misquotes, my point (has always been) is that it's massively naive for someone who's been watching football for as long as he has and studying the top sides for as long as he has to fail to notice how important this element is.

 

We've tried it previously mainly with the throwing money about approach, while our top brass have either been i) in brothels/slagging fans off/calling Alec Ferguson names, or ii) pissing about in the Bigg Market/downing pints in the away end (delete as appropriate). That for me is a mistake and the wrong example to set.

 

Leazes says this doesnt matter at all as long as you always commit to spend one pence more than your closest rival. Well not only do I reckon that is completely wrong, more to the point it's pointless saying it any more anyway as we are not going to spend as much as the top teams.

 

So where else do you start from? For me, you start with getting players focused back on the basics. With a work ethic, with a basic desire to play for the shirt, with a respect for the club and those paying their wages and you try and get that imprinted in the DNA of the club, because that is without doubt what all of the successful clubs have. What's more, that much is free to do - it costs nowt, it's about attitudes and it's one of the few things that's still a level playing field for everyone in football. Then on that foundation, you try and add slowly with quality-bringing players in that you do extensive research on and who you feel are right mentally to progress the level of football without compromising the level of professionalism.

 

At the end of the day, as SJH says, go for broke is out the window so why even bother banging on about it anymore? Adapt and survive basically and at least try and learn from previous lessons. If you don't do that then that is the very essence of naive.

[ChezGiven 0]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

so they key drivers of the game, among supporters that go to games, isn't to qualify for europe or better, win a trophy, play in Cup Finals [at least for clubs of NUFC's stature]. I realise that those who don't go to games - and probably have no intention of going to games - may have different priorities. But that is something else I've always said too.

So for you in your considered opinion, you'd say that the main drivers of success are winning trophies, playing in cup finals and in Europe? Just want to be really clear on that before we go any further.

 

You see they are metrics of success, they are how success is defined, not how you get there. You expect people to listen to you when coming out with this sort of tripe?

 

Just before you come back with stuff about backing managers, the evidence for alternative approaches is right before your eyes in the table this season with 2 clubs who have not joined the financial space race sitting in the top 5. The bottom line is that there is an alternative model and it is working.

Edited February 6, 2012 by ChezGiven

[Happy Face 29]

Leazes might make too much of it and lack nuance, but I thinnk a huge factor in the Mackems fall was the sale of Bent, Gyan, Henderson and Jones amongst other to pull in £45m, but then only spending £17m to replace them with a championship kid and a few Man U rejects.

 

O'Neil has got the feel good factor back and a new manager bounce, but that feel good factor is very precarious and can go out the window quick. If they sold Sessegnon and Mclean for example, it'd piss people off.

Edited February 6, 2012 by Happy Face

[Baggio 0]

Leazes might make too much of it and lack nuance, but I thinnk a huge factor in the Mackems fall was the sale of Bent, Gyan, Henderson and Jones amongst other to pull in £45m, but then only spending £17m to replace them with a championship kid and a few Man U rejects.

 

O'Neil has got the feel good factor back and a new manager bounce, but that feel good factor is very precarious and can go out the window quick. If they sold Sessegnon and Mclean for example, it'd piss people off.

 

Pretty sure they sold Jones before they bought Gyan tbf.

 

They've also still spent something like £50 million+ net in the last 5 years too.

[manc-mag 1]

Leazes might make too much of it and lack nuance, but I thinnk a huge factor in the Mackems fall was the sale of Bent, Gyan, Henderson and Jones amongst other to pull in £45m, but then only spending £17m to replace them with a championship kid and a few Man U rejects.

 

O'Neil has got the feel good factor back and a new manager bounce, but that feel good factor is very precarious and can go out the window quick. If they sold Sessegnon and Mclean for example, it'd piss people off.

 

For me, I personally see it this way:

 

Mackems spent big and this got them a better quality of player (by and large). They paid a premium however as they are an horrendously unattractive club, so often they have to spend a hell of a lot more for not very much better in terms of playing personnel. Not their fault and that's still fine as long as they are better players, but it does mean you need to be acutely aware you're likely to attract players who are pre-disposed to attitude problems/tell you to go and fuck yourself when everything isnt quite so rosey and the their signing on fee has been spent. When their agent has spent his too, it's even worse. Bruce is an alcoholic and a whinging cunt to boot when things arent going his way. Quinn was having it out with his shit fans on top of all that. To a player who is only there for the money, they will despair pretty much instantaneously and you can pretty much kiss goodbye to any hopes of them pulling you out of the mire.

 

So O'Neil comes in and spends nowt and the same band (or a cheaper band, seeing as you make the point many have been sold off without replacement) start racking up wins left right and centre because he's got them refocused and given them someone to respect.

 

Now O'Neil's problem will be how fast he then wants to take this forward because (as you rightly point out, he's in the new manager 'bounce' period). I say this because O'Neil is even more of a whining cunt than Bruce and I suspect he will want money relatively quickly. Now for me, if O'Neil left well alone on the transfers, his new manager bounce alone could see continued progress for another season with practically nowt spent. If he starts wanting to piss money up the wall like he did at Villa though, doing too much too soon, (against the reality that you're not going to be able to outspend certain clubs whatever money you get), that's when he'll lose the main virtue he brings, which is purely and simply just basic hard work. If big transfers arent the quick fix/next step up, O'Neil will lose the plot and start blaming everyone around him but himself and at that stage all his players will remember theyre at Sunderland again and get massively depressed and not give a fuck. And the biggest signings will be at the head of that movement.

[Happy Face 29]

Leazes might make too much of it and lack nuance, but I thinnk a huge factor in the Mackems fall was the sale of Bent, Gyan, Henderson and Jones amongst other to pull in £45m, but then only spending £17m to replace them with a championship kid and a few Man U rejects.

 

O'Neil has got the feel good factor back and a new manager bounce, but that feel good factor is very precarious and can go out the window quick. If they sold Sessegnon and Mclean for example, it'd piss people off.

 

Pretty sure they sold Jones before they bought Gyan tbf.

 

They've also still spent something like £50 million+ net in the last 5 years too.

 

So that supports the approach, sell Jones for £8m, sign Gyan for £13m have a canny season. Sell Gyan without a replacement having sold Bent and Jones already, it goes to shit.

 

Mclean has been O'Neils best player and he cost £350k. So i'm not daft enought o follow LM's line of thought that it's all about spending more than you pull in, but a clubs approach to transfers defines their whole outlook before a ball is kicked. What good will Ashley has built up goes out the window in the summer if he sells Colo, Tiote and Ba.

[Happy Face 29]

For me, I personally see it this way:

 

Mackems spent big and this got them a better quality of player (by and large). They paid a premium however as they are an horrendously unattractive club, so often they have to spend a hell of a lot more for not very much better in terms of playing personnel. Not their fault and that's still fine as long as they are better players, but it does mean you need to be acutely aware you're likely to attract players who are pre-disposed to attitude problems/tell you to go and fuck yourself when everything isnt quite so rosey and the their signing on fee has been spent. When their agent has spent his too, it's even worse. Bruce is an alcoholic and a whinging cunt to boot when things arent going his way. Quinn was having it out with his shit fans on top of all that. To a player who is only there for the money, they will despair pretty much instantaneously and you can pretty much kiss goodbye to any hopes of them pulling you out of the mire.

 

So O'Neil comes in and spends nowt and the same band (or a cheaper band, seeing as you make the point many have been sold off without replacement) start racking up wins left right and centre because he's got them refocused and given them someone to respect.

 

Now O'Neil's problem will be how fast he then wants to take this forward because (as you rightly point out, he's in the new manager 'bounce' period). I say this because O'Neil is even more of a whining cunt than Bruce and I suspect he will want money relatively quickly. Now for me, if O'Neil left well alone on the transfers, his new manager bounce alone could see continued progress for another season with practically nowt spent. If he starts wanting to piss money up the wall like he did at Villa though, doing too much too soon, (against the reality that you're not going to be able to outspend certain clubs whatever money you get), that's when he'll lose the main virtue he brings, which is purely and simply just basic hard work. If big transfers arent the quick fix/next step up, O'Neil will lose the plot and start blaming everyone around him but himself and at that stage all his players will remember theyre at Sunderland again and get massively depressed and not give a fuck. And the biggest signings will be at the head of that movement.

 

The problem with sticking with his current crop of players is, as you suggest, they won't stick with Sunderland. If Mclean and Sessegnon keep up this form they'll not last the summer and even if O'Neil were happy to replce them cheap the fans won't be.

[Park Life 71]

There are too many variables. ie spend doesn't guarantee anything (whereas good scouting might) and so on...The nature of the PL enviroment has changed so radically, past-present comparisons are ok for a bit of banter but really lack real meaning. /Sorted.

[manc-mag 1]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

so they key drivers of the game, among supporters that go to games, isn't to qualify for europe or better, win a trophy, play in Cup Finals [at least for clubs of NUFC's stature]. I realise that those who don't go to games - and probably have no intention of going to games - may have different priorities. But that is something else I've always said too.

So for you in your considered opinion, you'd say that the main drivers of success are winning trophies, playing in cup finals and in Europe? Just want to be really clear on that before we go any further.

 

You see they are metrics of success, they are how success is defined, not how you get there. You expect people to listen to you when coming out with this sort of tripe?

 

Just before you come back with stuff about backing managers, the evidence for alternative approaches is right before your eyes in the table this season with 2 clubs who have not joined the financial space race sitting in the top 5. The bottom line is that there is an alternative model and it is working.

 

 

The absolute verbatim truth.

[Gemmill 46175]

Leazes should watch Moneyball. I bet he'd have some choice things to say about Jonah Hill and Brad Pitt's characters in that, with their spreadsheets and their stats. Probably get hoyed out the cinema tbf.

 

Good movie btw for anyone that hasn't seen it.

[PUGATRON1000 0]

my point stands, as it always has done.

 

Newcastle United under Mike Ashley will NEVER match those league positions of the old regime until or unless he stops selling our best players and backs his managers completely when the occasional one leaves to one of the major world clubs ie Real Madrid, Barca, ManU [maybe].

 

This is the only way to behave if you want consistent success, and it is has been proven in football ever since the professional game began. I realise some of the bairns and stupid element will interpret that as a guarantee, but that is stupid as saying having a shot at goal guarantees a goal, not really my problem is someone is stupid enough to think that.

 

One good season, great. The first one in 5 years, but look at the longer term too. You need to back your managers and stop selling your best players.

 

You're like a Hip Hop DJ scratching a broken record on Groundhog day you Blend!

 

You keep banging on about "selling our best players", who do you mean?? Cos from where i am sat every player that has gone has been replaced with someone as good as, if not better! (Can't say that definitely about Santon and Enrique yet granted, however can you say he's not??) If "they" managed to do this with younger, cheaper players on less wages then why? (And this is the kicker) Why should anyone be upset about that?

 

We got rid of Carroll, so what?? He's not that great mate, and i prefer the football we have played since getting shot of him to be honest. AND we got £35 million for him, anybody would be a mug to refuse to sell him for that.

 

We got rid of Nolan, so what?? He's not that great either, and i would certainly rather have Cabaye alongside Tiote.

 

We got rid of Barton, so what?? I'd rather have a united squad and solid team spirit (and I bet you Neil Warnock would as well now!!), he knocked a good dead ball, but so does Cabaye and Raylor, and as he was playing out on the right before he left I'd rather have Ben Arfa/Obertan. Plus with Barton there is always his next temper tantrum lurking in the background.

 

Enrique decided he didnt want to stay here, so what?? Again I'd rather have a squad that pulls in the same direction together, and although i'd like to see Santon at right back in the long run he is looking canny at the minute (I'd say he has certainly started his NUFC career better than Enrique did) And before you read the next bit LM, remove all sharp objects from near you......... There's always a chance we'll get a new LB in the summer!!

 

Honestly if you can't see that we have a better team now than we did before we "Sold all our best players" than what i suspect will be true and there will have been more brains in your dad's wanking sock than in your head! It's not always the cleverest sperm that wins the race you know!!

 

Who else is worth a mention?? Obafemi Martins? (Pffffft) Habib Beye (Another who thought the grass would be greener) Damien Duff??? Geremi?? Routledge?? Who is it exactly that you are weeping your little eyes out over constantly (and very repetitively)

Edited February 6, 2012 by PUGATRON1000

[PUGATRON1000 0]

6th would be an amazing finish, to get ahead of either Liverpool or Arsenal would be an utterly stunning season.

 

Re: what drives success in football, its like any game (industries are just complex games), as the world moves on, the old school lose touch with modern issues. In my company, by the time you're 50 you're nothing as you dont have the relevant experience. Leazes insistence that he knows how the game works better than anyone because he has been around longer is ironically the reason why he doesnt get it. He still thinks the key drivers of success are the same as in the 1970s. It would be the only competitive environment on the planet if it were true, which its not.

 

I suspect you're about to get called "chum".

 

 

LMFAO!! Class!

[LeazesMag 0]

One swallow doesn't mean blowjobs for life like.

 

The Mackems were 6th at the start of Feb last season, and they ended up sacking their manager within the year.

 

This is really important this for me as it happens. It's a totally valid point and shows just how much (outside of the 'established' CL boys) you can go up and down in this league within very short periods.

 

For me the Mackems did well because they were spending big and that was generally bringing in a slightly better class of player, (principally up front). However their manager turned out to ultimately be a pile of wank that lost the plot, players decided the club was really a bit daft or otherwise not to their liking and hence that same team sank like a stone again, with some departures along the way. Now O'Neill has got that same side playing CL form football having hardly spent a penny. So it's neither proof that spending big is the answer or is a bad thing, it shows that the same players can send you up the league if they're feeling motivated or send you back down again if they think they're being run by a dickend/bunch of dickends they have no respect for. Bruce's spending allowed him to paper over the cracks of being an essentially drunken bellend with inadequate coping mechanisms in the face of adversity. That in itself is both an argument for getting the best players you can afford, but also keeping them motivated once theyre with you, and if you fail to do the latter, you've only got half the equation.

 

Leazes makes too much of the former and essentially dismisses the latter because he doesnt think it matters what standards of professionalism you demand once you've got expensive players in. Despite his misquotes, my point (has always been) is that it's massively naive for someone who's been watching football for as long as he has and studying the top sides for as long as he has to fail to notice how important this element is.

 

We've tried it previously mainly with the throwing money about approach, while our top brass have either been i) in brothels/slagging fans off/calling Alec Ferguson names, or ii) pissing about in the Bigg Market/downing pints in the away end (delete as appropriate). That for me is a mistake and the wrong example to set.

 

Leazes says this doesnt matter at all as long as you always commit to spend one pence more than your closest rival. Well not only do I reckon that is completely wrong, more to the point it's pointless saying it any more anyway as we are not going to spend as much as the top teams.

 

So where else do you start from? For me, you start with getting players focused back on the basics. With a work ethic, with a basic desire to play for the shirt, with a respect for the club and those paying their wages and you try and get that imprinted in the DNA of the club, because that is without doubt what all of the successful clubs have. What's more, that much is free to do - it costs nowt, it's about attitudes and it's one of the few things that's still a level playing field for everyone in football. Then on that foundation, you try and add slowly with quality-bringing players in that you do extensive research on and who you feel are right mentally to progress the level of football without compromising the level of professionalism.

 

At the end of the day, as SJH says, go for broke is out the window so why even bother banging on about it anymore? Adapt and survive basically and at least try and learn from previous lessons. If you don't do that then that is the very essence of naive.

 

I don't "misquote" anything, I've told you for years what Mike Ashley would do to the football club and you have disagreed with me [like many others] and offered absolutely nothing of your own in response, other than gradually bullshit your way round to what I've always told you.

 

Which is all you are. A bullshitter, with no judgements, no predictions, all you do is give a summary of something after the event, so you can't be wrong, in your own head.

 

Whatever people think of me, I'll give my views, and if I'm wrong then so be it. Unfortunately though, I have called Mike Ashley absolutely correctly and people are STILL disagreeing with me when it stands out a mile how he sees the football club and his Sports Company.

[LeazesMag 0]

my point stands, as it always has done.

 

Newcastle United under Mike Ashley will NEVER match those league positions of the old regime until or unless he stops selling our best players and backs his managers completely when the occasional one leaves to one of the major world clubs ie Real Madrid, Barca, ManU [maybe].

 

This is the only way to behave if you want consistent success, and it is has been proven in football ever since the professional game began. I realise some of the bairns and stupid element will interpret that as a guarantee, but that is stupid as saying having a shot at goal guarantees a goal, not really my problem is someone is stupid enough to think that.

 

One good season, great. The first one in 5 years, but look at the longer term too. You need to back your managers and stop selling your best players.

 

You're like a broken record playing on Groundhog day you Blend!

 

You keep banging on about "selling our best players", who do you mean?? Cos from where i am sat every player that has gone has been replaced with someone as good as, if not better! (Can't say that definitely about Santon and Enrique yet granted, however can you say he's not??) If "they" managed to do this with younger, cheaper players on less wages then why? (And this is the kicker) Why should anyone be upset about that?

 

We got rid of Carroll, so what?? He's not that great mate, and i prefer the football we have played since getting shot of him to be honest. AND we got £35 million for him, anybody would be a mug to refuse to sell him for that.

 

We got rid of Nolan, so what?? He's not that great either, and i would certainly rather have Cabaye alongside Tiote.

 

We got rid of Barton, so what?? I'd rather have a united squad and solid team spirit (and I bet you Neil Warnock would as well now!!), he knocked a good dead ball, but so does Cabaye and Raylor, and as he was playing out on the right before he left I'd rather have Ben Arfa/Obertan. Plus with Barton there is always his next temper tantrum lurking in the background.

 

Enrique decided he didnt want to stay here, so what?? Again I'd rather have a squad that pulls in the same direction together, and although i'd like to see Santon at right back in the long run he is looking canny at the minute (I'd say he has certainly started his NUFC career better than Enrique did) And before you read the next bit LM, remove all sharp objects from near you......... There's always a chance we'll get a new LB in the summer!!

 

Honestly if you can't see that we have a better team now than we did before we "Sold all our best players" than what i suspect will be true and there will have been more brains in your dad's wanking sock than in your head! It's not always the cleverest sperm that wins the race you know!!

 

Who else is worth a mention?? Obafemi Martins? (Pffffft) Habib Beye (Another who thought the grass would be greener) Damien Duff??? Geremi?? Routledge?? Who is it exactly that you are weeping your little eyes out over constantly (and very repetitively)

 

come back when we have seen all the Carroll cash, and he has backed his managers to the tune of matching the league positions, champions League and european qualifications of his predecessors. Until then, bugger off because you are a nobody, you know nothing, and living in your little deluded world where you think football clubs can be successful by selling their best players and withholding the money and not backing their managers, you never will.

 

I bet your one of those bellends [blends ] who constantly impersonated Groundhog Day on Newcastle Online saying that anybody would do better than Fred etc etc blah blah....well after 4 years, Mike Ashley has got nowhere near those champions league and top 5 finishes, not once, apart from in a lower league after he watched us get relegated.

 

Fool.

Edited February 6, 2012 by LeazesMag

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such as "throw more money at him" , which clearly wasn't, it was more basically, clueless, especially coming from an accountant.

 

Is english your first language LM? (Just you really do struggle with constructing basic sentences.)

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Leazes should watch Moneyball. I bet he'd have some choice things to say about Jonah Hill and Brad Pitt's characters in that, with their spreadsheets and their stats. Probably get hoyed out the cinema tbf.

 

Good movie btw for anyone that hasn't seen it.

 

you should play monopoly, and imagine that when you encouraged the mad spending spree of Souness, it was all just a game and not the real thing. Then resit your accountancy exams.

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such as "throw more money at him" , which clearly wasn't, it was more basically, clueless, especially coming from an accountant.

 

Is english your first language LM? (Just you really do struggle with constructing basic sentences.)

 

"Blend"