ewerk 30220 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Price = value only in a perfect market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21225 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well aye. Man city and Chelsea have grossly distorted that market, which is one reason I despise both clubs. Now I ask, what is the true societal value of Andy Caroll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well aye. Man city and Chelsea have grossly distorted that market, which is one reason I despise both clubs. Now I ask, what is the true societal value of Andy Caroll? He'd owe you a few quid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Well aye. Man city and Chelsea have grossly distorted that market, which is one reason I despise both clubs. Now I ask, what is the true societal value of Andy Caroll? 20 Utils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 according to liverpool they want to sell 20 mill minimum for carroll cant see us going that high for one man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm predicting no Andy Carroll at NUFC next season. It's a piss-take from our cheery chairman along the same lines as the Nzogbia bid, as someone else alluded to, it has the added bonus of taking attention off our other more low key (cheaper) business. No chance we'll match his current salary, and whatever anyone thinks of his desire to play for Newcastle, as proved by his departure in the first place, it doesn't outstrip his desire for as much cash as he can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm predicting no Andy Carroll at NUFC next season. It's a piss-take from our cheery chairman along the same lines as the Nzogbia bid, as someone else alluded to, it has the added bonus of taking attention off our other more low key (cheaper) business. No chance we'll match his current salary, and whatever anyone thinks of his desire to play for Newcastle, as proved by his departure in the first place, it doesn't outstrip his desire for as much cash as he can get. Of course you could be right, but what you shouldnt rule out is Carrol being home sick. Sure money is one thing but at 23 he is still only a kid and not many of us can cope living away from home, family, mates, a city where we feel at home at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34783 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Of course you could be right, but what you shouldnt rule out is Carrol being home sick. Sure money is one thing but at 23 he is still only a kid and not many of us can cope living away from home, family, mates, a city where we feel at home at that age. Every fucking feckless student in the land manages it like. I know you're possibly right but fuck me, you'd think he was 14 (assuming he is homesick). The cosseted existence of these footballers man :lol: He's living the dream ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21794 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 liverpool is like a foreign country tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34783 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 So's Gateshead. Not that I imagine any of them live in Liverpool. Has he been burgled yet btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas Increasing optimism at #nufc about recruitment. Debuchy could be in by Mon, and another bid for Carroll (nearer £16m) being considered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Every fucking feckless student in the land manages it like. I know you're possibly right but fuck me, you'd think he was 14 (assuming he is homesick). The cosseted existence of these footballers man :lol: He's living the dream ffs. Aye but students usually have a bit of intelligence and look forward to the big wide world etc. I dont think our Andy is in that bracket and having been a very big fish in a small pond, he is now not worshipped by fans or manager AND is stuck down there. Moneys not everything. Edited July 18, 2012 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 He could even be willing to take a slight wage cut to come back here perhaps. He's not at the point in his career where this is his last big move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34783 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Aye but students usually have a bit of intelligence and look forward to the big wide world etc. I dont think our Andy is in that bracket and having been a very big fish in a small pond, he is now not worshipped by fans or manager AND is stuck down there. Moneys not everything. Was more of a general rant about footballers anyway. I think money'll be important though because it'll be the thing motivating his agent about whether or not to advise Carroll to move or not. I could definitely see him wanting to come home like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Re-signing Carroll will placate the fans once the selling of Tiote and Ba goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Tiote would be the likely loss if anyone were to leave. £20m or so would seem a reasonable recoup, but I'm not confident we'd find a replacement nearly as good. The Anita talk certainly doesn't fill me with confidence (though I'm very willing to stand corrected!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'd say he's overpaid at 80k a week but then again he might think he's worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Re-signing Carroll will placate the fans once the selling of Tiote and Ba goes through. ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if the whole exercise is being coreographed to get Llambias in a room with Carroll just so he can give him a shit eating grin and offer him the salary he was on before he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17061 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Re-signing Carroll will placate the fans once the selling of Tiote and Ba goes through. Think you're being too overly negative there Brock. Get on board Big Mike's Fun Bus at once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34783 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if the whole exercise is being coreographed to get Llambias in a room with Carroll just so he can give him a shit eating grin and offer him the salary he was on before he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32707 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 They're just trying to grab a bargain, there's no chance we'll pay really big money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Of course you could be right, but what you shouldnt rule out is Carrol being home sick. Sure money is one thing but at 23 he is still only a kid and not many of us can cope living away from home, family, mates, a city where we feel at home at that age. Why does he spend the entire close season away from Newcastle if he's home sick? I think people are trying to convince themselves with some of the batshit theories they make up off their own back. I know my Llambias theory is a bat-shit laugh, but at least it fits with the fact that we would be no more willing to increase his salary now than we were a year or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheMag 4 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Mark Douglas seems to think that NUFC are set on a loan-to-buy deal, and thus Ba won't go the other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Why does he spend the entire close season away from Newcastle if he's home sick? I think people are trying to convince themselves with some of the batshit theories they make up off their own back. I know my Llambias theory is a bat-shit laugh, but at least it fits with the fact that we would be no more willing to increase his salary now than we were a year or so ago. Entire close season.... He was at the Euros Probably on holiday with mates and family now. I think we have shown we are prepared to move on salaries. This time last season most thought Colo would be away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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