Carroll`s career so far in Liverpool

[LeazesMag 0]

why don't you prove that what I've basically been saying for years is incorrect ?

 

There's clearly no need.

 

there clearly is. There is also a need for you to reply to the post where you fobbed off the comment I made about the club not backing the manager with the cash from Carroll, in view of the weekends news.

 

Don't expect you to do it though.

[LeazesMag 0]

I also don't give a toss what ewerk says or asks, he's beyond any help.

 

LeazesMag speak for "he destroys my arguement every time".

 

if you say so

[ChezGiven 0]

If supporting the club, in your eyes, means blind optimism, I just feel sad for you

Ah come on, if someone wants to be a blind optimist then why not let them be? Its hardly a bad thing that a few people just want to get behind things without worrying about the rest of the stuff. It doesnt make them right about anything but i hardly see it as a bad thing. Just a different perspective.

[LeazesMag 0]

Ah come on, if someone wants to be a blind optimist then why not let them be? Its hardly a bad thing that a few people just want to get behind things without worrying about the rest of the stuff. It doesnt make them right about anything but i hardly see it as a bad thing. Just a different perspective.

 

and if someone exercises straightforward logical judgement [not that you do in your own way.....] ? Is that a bad thing ?

 

If I urged the banning of people disagreeing with me by the way ie for exercising blind optimism [which I know hasn't been you], there would hardly be any fucker left.

 

Just a different perspective.

Edited March 6, 2012 by LeazesMag

[Davey Dave 0]

I can sense another visit to the creche coming. Isn't this shite supposed to be confined to the mike Ashley thread?

 

For someone who sees himself as a giant footballing intellect he's not too hot at learning a lesson.

 

that's a shame, that you appear to think that people should be banned for having a different opinion to the majority. That is Newcastle Online type mentality. It is compounded by the fact, that what I say still stands as being factual and correct, otherwise I could not say it. Do you think the admin on here are of Newcastle Online mentality ?

 

Newcastle online is a forum i assume? Never been there.

 

And drop the patronising tone. Experience is no guarantee of wisdom and what i see is just a daft old fart having a toddler tantrum when disagreed with. Ant gave you warnings previously, so you know what I mean.

[Gemmill 44185]

Ah come on, if someone wants to be a blind optimist then why not let them be? Its hardly a bad thing that a few people just want to get behind things without worrying about the rest of the stuff. It doesnt make them right about anything but i hardly see it as a bad thing. Just a different perspective.

 

and if someone exercises straightforward logical judgement [not that you do in your own way.....] ? Is that a bad thing ?

 

If I urged the banning of people disagreeing with me by the way ie for exercising blind optimism [which I know hasn't been you], there would hardly be any fucker left.

 

Just a different perspective.

 

If you ever exercise straightforward logical judgement, we'll let you know.

[LeazesMag 0]

Ah come on, if someone wants to be a blind optimist then why not let them be? Its hardly a bad thing that a few people just want to get behind things without worrying about the rest of the stuff. It doesnt make them right about anything but i hardly see it as a bad thing. Just a different perspective.

 

and if someone exercises straightforward logical judgement [not that you do in your own way.....] ? Is that a bad thing ?

 

If I urged the banning of people disagreeing with me by the way ie for exercising blind optimism [which I know hasn't been you], there would hardly be any fucker left.

 

Just a different perspective.

 

If you ever exercise straightforward logical judgement, we'll let you know.

 

err.......that's precisely what I've been doing for years Gem.........you can't argue with the logic of league positions, growth of the club, and how such things are achieved.

[ewerk 30175]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

[Happy Face 29]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

 

Following our magnificent start to the season, the club has lost 7 of it's last 16 games. Only Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves and QPR have lost more in the same period. I hope the progress made isn't fleeting.

[LeazesMag 0]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

 

Following our magnificent start to the season, the club has lost 7 of it's last 16 games. Only Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves and QPR have lost more in the same period. I hope the progress made isn't fleeting.

 

not to mention dropping 4 home points against inferior opposition in the last week. You have to wonder what further strengthening the team with that missing cash could have done when the final table is all done and dusted.

[ewerk 30175]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

 

Following our magnificent start to the season, the club has lost 7 of it's last 16 games. Only Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves and QPR have lost more in the same period. I hope the progress made isn't fleeting.

 

I prefer to look at it as having won 6 of our last 12. Which isn't a bad return.

 

There is nothing wrong with anyone wanting to take a long-term view, my problem is the continuing statements that we're going backwards during our best season under Ashley.

[Baggio 0]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

 

Following our magnificent start to the season, the club has lost 7 of it's last 16 games. Only Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves and QPR have lost more in the same period. I hope the progress made isn't fleeting.

 

Liverpool away

Chelsea home

Man City away

Spurs away

Norwich away

West Brom home

Fulham away

 

So not that bad when you look at it more closely, only 2 home defeats all season makes me think we're much harder to beat.

[Happy Face 29]

But you can easily ignore the fact that the club is currently progressing.

 

Following our magnificent start to the season, the club has lost 7 of it's last 16 games. Only Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves and QPR have lost more in the same period. I hope the progress made isn't fleeting.

 

Liverpool away

Chelsea home

Man City away

Spurs away

Norwich away

West Brom home

Fulham away

 

So not that bad when you look at it more closely, only 2 home defeats all season makes me think we're much harder to beat.

 

And we've only lost one of 14 games against teams in the bottom half all season. That's a great record.

[Baggio 0]

And we've only lost one of 14 games against teams in the bottom half all season. That's a great record.

 

This is why I think we deserve to be where we are in the league, we're beating the teams I'd expect us to beat.

 

Crazy stat but was it Man Utd a few years ago that failed to beat another team in the top 4 but won 19 of the 20 games against the bottom half teams?

[LeazesMag 0]

We give decent wages but we can never match the artificial clubs, #

 

 

Nasri gets £200k to bench warm at Man City for example, Carroll gets the same as Collocini to warm Liverpool's.

 

We can't compete with that for obvious reasons.

 

Aye.

 

I'm willing to bet there wouldnt be a massive difference between what Enrique is on now and what he might have got if he'd stayed like, in terms of a weekly wage. I reckon it'd have been around 60k based on what we're seeing and I don't think he's on massively more than that at Liverpool. The transfer fee is another matter of course and you only get a slice of that if you actually transfer, so again very little we could do about that iyam.

 

but didn't he move for only money ?

[JawD 99]

Enrique didnt move for money like. Wasnt it that he didnt even want to discuss a deal? He just didnt want to stay with the club as us selling the likes of Carroll and likely assuming Barton was on the way he assumed the club would not strengthen or progress?

[Davey Dave 0]

Eagle-beak Thompson flapping his gob didn't help either.

 

I'm sure his head was turned by the prospect

[LeazesMag 0]

Enrique didnt move for money like . Wasnt it that he didnt even want to discuss a deal? He just didnt want to stay with the club as us selling the likes of Carroll and likely assuming Barton was on the way he assumed the club would not strengthen or progress?

 

well, lots of those who actually think we are actually doing things better than Liverpool said so, and that Enrique moved for money and only money, because who would move to a club that was inferior ? Of course, that Cup Final a few weeks ago hasn't justified it, he'd still be better off playing for the club aiming for success rather than the one who are just spending money aimlessly

 

Anyway, the question is for mancmag, but he won't reply

Edited March 12, 2012 by LeazesMag

[BestBaNone 0]

Aren't e five points in front of Liverpool? It's you who determines success on league positions, and not trophies, remember.

[LeazesMag 0]

Aren't e five points in front of Liverpool? It's you who determines success on league positions, and not trophies, remember.

 

no I do not, but its most definitely you who have proclaimed the lack of a trophy as "failure". Which explains your lack of understanding of the rise of the club from 1992.

 

Not that I give a toss mind, it's your problem. I'm not explaining to you again where Mike Ashley is going wrong.

[Davey Dave 0]

You will.

[Gemmill 44185]

Leazes, seriously, fuck off will you.

 

You're getting on literally everyone's tripe. And not because you're making us all look silly by being consistently right, but because you're a boring arsehole who can't stop repeating himself.

 

You slag off skunkers and NO, but in truth they're the lucky ones cos they're being spared your shit. Isn't it time you found a new flock to educate, cos we're all educated out.

[JawD 99]

Aren't e five points in front of Liverpool? It's you who determines success on league positions, and not trophies, remember.

 

TBF if the question is about why Enrique left, you cant look at positions now. Yes we are ahead of Liverpool in the league and they have fans wanting KD out. But, that is hindsight. You have to examine why he left at the time and not look at where we are now. Whether or not Liverpool were spending wisely, the fact is they were spending and looking like going forward.

[Barney 0]

I went on NO today for the first time in about a year. The first post I read had that fucking Picard facepalm thing. It's posted about 5 times on every page, and there's a thread stickied "The Race for Europe" about 2 topics down a thread "The Race for 7th".

 

I thought "what must a newbie think of this shite?" It's as bad over here recently though with Leazes constant bickering.

[Guest CabayeAye]

I went on NO today for the first time in about a year. The first post I read had that fucking Picard facepalm thing. It's posted about 5 times on every page, and there's a thread stickied "The Race for Europe" about 2 topics down a thread "The Race for 7th".

 

I thought "what must a newbie think of this shite?" It's as bad over here recently though with Leazes constant bickering.

 

I never go back on there now. It's at about 90% full of cunts over there, whereas over here is only about 50%. Plus after putting the three main cunts over here on ignore, my posting experience is positively joyful!

 

Thanks guys, I love you all, man!