rogerbarton 24 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 You need 4 strikers. Ba and Cisse can't play every game and, like it or not, there will be matches where having Big Andy up top will prove an effective weapon. I'd be delighted if we got him back, though the quoted £17m fee and £75k wages just seem like they've got no chance. Would he take a pay cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 You never know though, if we're low-balling the wages Liverpool might turn it down, Carroll might even (though I doubt it) if it does come off it'll be interesting to see how the preseason matches progress with the formations once we get closer to the proper kick off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_don 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So would this mean Ba is definitely on the way? If not I can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Well done Stevie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 If I were somebody like Cisse I'd be pissed off seeing him come in on 75k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So would this mean Ba is definitely on the way? If not I can't see it. don't see why, we need more than 11 players one in doesn't mean one out, especially if its one in on loan. its not late enough in the window for us to be panic signing someone as a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_don 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 don't see why, we need more than 11 players one in doesn't mean one out, especially if its one in on loan. its not late enough in the window for us to be panic signing someone as a replacement. I agree about the squad depth, but it's more his wages I'm thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon_don 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also, if I was Liverpool I wouldn't be loaning anyone to a potential rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4713 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 you dont need to pay all of them in a loan deal, liverpool might still be paying a portion of his contracted wages there knowing our negotiators I don't see them going nuts on wages for a player if they don't feel its right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Am really not sure what to make of this. To be honest I'd rather have Ba and Cisse starting every game, of course after them we're thin on numbers after the departure of Best and Lovenkrands (and Ranger and Xisco likely too),. Thing is if we keep Ba then who is going to be happy sitting on the bench? Carroll? If he wants to impress Rodgers then he wants to be playing regularly. If he wants to get a move back here then it's a different matter. Either way I never like having loan players. I can't escape the fact that they're not Newcastle United players, it just feels a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 On the other hand - he's certainly another option. Would like a wide forward as Jonny put it mind. Cisse, Carroll and Ba are at their best in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Comment on the BBC article: a loan of a player of this ability is insulting and unfair to him he needs a team where he can thrive and become a great striker, newcastle are in reality being selfish and never wanted him so shouldnt be allowed to loan him liverpool would be best letting him find a club that will enhance his tallent not repress it. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Ryder reckons the permanent fee would be around £13m. Fucking spend that on De Jong or something please Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Here, have a fifth post in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieChris 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Though if we do sign him back next season, for say £15m, thats £20m profit in my book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nortoon 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think he'd be an ok signing to be honest. There are times when we resort to banging them up still, and then Ba and Cisse arent all that effective. Besides we do have to rotate them around a bit. I for one would like to have a good target man other than Shola. Would prefer to pay nothing for Hoilett, but I can't deny it will be delicious to basically spend the rest of the Carroll money on Carroll himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9165 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Though if we do sign him back next season, for say £15m, thats £20m profit in my book! We had a 25% sell on clause I believe, plus don't they still owe us some cash from the original deal, they only (only!!) paid £30Mill up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) The idea of Carroll being a replacement for Ba does not sit well with me, especially as Carroll would only be on loan at first. If Ba goes then we need a permanent replacement straight away, and if he left I'd hope it'd be something who can play out wider than the aforementioned (Hoilett etc). Edited July 15, 2012 by Monroe Transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieChris 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Profiting from our own sell on clause, I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'm much happier with a loan to buy option if things are going well. Rumours are it's a 13m buy out clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think he'd be an ok signing to be honest. There are times when we resort to banging them up still, and then Ba and Cisse arent all that effective. Besides we do have to rotate them around a bit. I for one would like to have a good target man other than Shola. Would prefer to pay nothing for Hoilett, but I can't deny it will be delicious to basically spend the rest of the Carroll money on Carroll himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Wonder if Mike will let him use the chopper to come home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44245 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Take a now, Stevie. Andrew, we're gonna need an apology. Let's stick a 100 word limit on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 So this is what we can do with Smiths wages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I remember being bloody depressed out in Nottingham with a bunch of mates who are Liverpool fans on the night of January 31st 2011. If I'd have known this would be the case 18 months later I'd have been fucking cock-a-hoop. What a turnaround for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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