Lazarus 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 That specialises in employment law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44805 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Why like, what you done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Why like, what you done? I bet it involves grot in some form or another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 " . . and what is a grot spot not ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Been on the sick for a while and been sacked . My dismissal letter said targets wernt being met and that an extra burden was placed on colleagues. When i appealed i asked for the evidence of this but they've said the evidence doesn't exist but have upheld the original decision to dismiss me. Ive not been impressed with my union rep and want to take things further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 . . fak . . sorry t hear man . Probs highly lightweight advice but Citizens Advice worth a shout as a starter ? Think you can call your local office and they ring you back with more specialist advice accordingly ? Other than that maybe hve a look/sign up on MoneySavingExper site as loads of helpful folk on there within the specific sub-forums (employment lawyers etc) that kindly reply and offer a helping hand. (speaking from experience) again, sorry t hear as know exactly how frusrated and angry y must be . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44805 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Without knowing anything about your sickness record, companies have to be fucking watertight with stuf like this. So either they don't have a clue what they're doing, or they think theyve got you bang to rights. Good luck with it anyway, sounds shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I would consult a 'proper' solicitor tbh, I don't think it costs anything for an initial meeting and they are a lot less likely to rape you in the bum bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idioteque 0 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I got ran over 6 months ago, still haven't put my claim in cos' I'm a lazy bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30554 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Employment tribunals are intended to be accessible without the aid of a lawyer i.e. you can represent yourself. The problem is if your employer decides to lawyer up. How long were you there? If it wasn't too long then the compensation you'd get mightn't be worth the effort. If you can prove some form of discrimination though you might be on to a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I don't know if it's changed but it used to be the case that a full time employee could be easily dismissed if they'd only worked a short time (can't remember the period).......but after that you have a lot of rights and can't be sacked without a series of warnings etc...being sick is esp not a sackable offence iirc. Well worth getting some advice if you've been there ages. Anyway sorry to hear about this and good luck with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I would consult a 'proper' solicitor tbh, I don't think it costs anything for an initial meeting and they are a lot less likely to rape you in the bum bum. Just be very wary is all I can say . I got reamed-out to the tune of £600 for the privelidge of a couple of bog standard-letters and a cup of tea and 2 Nice biscuits (as part of initial meeting charm offensive) courtesy of Sintons . Case was dealt wuth by a junior under the eye of a partner (wow he proof read a flaming letter) that came out of a minimal redundancy settlement that my employer had forced to basically negate my future rights vis-a-vis doing them for unfair dismissal . Shark-eyed unscrupulous cunts mostly so get quotes before you sign up to any of them. Those flash offices/cars in carpark don't pay for themselves . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30554 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Following on from LTB, the payouts for unfair dismissal aren't massive. Unless you can prove discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) no discrimination tbh. been there since 1994 and i believe management have used my absence to help reduce the headcount, just heard that some lass has also been sacked too my place though dont know the details. just submitted my et1 to the tribunal people yesterday, got my head done in. Edited November 23, 2011 by Lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Im still immensely angry about this whole process not to mention frustrated. im going to post the contents of the ET1 form giving the sequence of events minus the names and places. hopefully, this may prove useful to anyone else who finds themselves in a similar position, be them manager or employee. as a few of you know who i work for, please keep this quiet for obvious reasons. Edited November 23, 2011 by Lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44805 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Sorry to hear about your back trouble, and the subsequent trouble with your employer. What IS a long term solution in a case like this? Sounds like you've been off work for 6 months now, although at some point in that you were told you were being dismissed (how long had you been off when that happened, and are you currently getting paid pending resolution of your case). I sympathise, cos it sounds like your work haven't complied with their end of things, but I guess at the same time they can't keep you on the payroll indefinitely if there is seemingly no end in sight to your sick leave. Or can they, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 aye, been 6 months now. its not unusual for my employer to have had people sick for over a year believe it or not, though pay reduces by 50% after 6 months and to zero after 12. . been paid upto 26 november and my only income now is esa from the jobcentre. not sure of the solution myself - that will be for the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44805 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I'd delete the stuff you've posted above if I were you. It's not unreasonable to think that with the detail provided, someone couldn't put it all together, and you'd be better off without the added complication of explaining why all this was posted on a public forum while the tribunal process was ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 aye will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 All I would say is that if it's a local authority or government department then you might be knackered as they allegedly should have far more watertight HR procedures, plus a level of bureaucracy that means your case and the outcome has been double and triple checked. Should have I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 All I would say is that if it's a local authority or government department then you might be knackered as they allegedly should have far more watertight HR procedures, plus a level of bureaucracy that means your case and the outcome has been double and triple checked. Should have I might add. you would think so but not in this instance. my line management have simply been incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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