Why are Asians so shite at football?

[ewerk 31221]

A stone?

I seem to remember reading about him in the Shoot or Match Xmas annual one year and he used to practice with a tennis ball.

 

[Park Life 71]

Cricket is the national sport of India closely followed by 'Who wants to be a millionaire'.. Chess became very popular when Anand climbed the rankings. Football is viewed as a spectacle in most of Asia rather than a 'must do' sport. In Asia in general education and science are venerated to such a level that it's almost like a sport...(no running out onto the allotment after school). If China for instance set their mind to it and more players played abroad could become a force in modern football. Ultimately a lot of it comes down to prestige. In Europe it is asscociated with prestige and still a way out of poverty/poor education/mucking about in school (but the infrastructure is there to catch these young players). In Asia education is the way out and is the number one sport.

[Guest alex]

I think it's quite sad that in Thailand etc. you get one man and his dog watching the matches there but everyone goes mad for the Premier League.

It's even sadder when the dog gets barbecued at half-time.

Edited November 15, 2011 by alex

[Kid Dynamite 7181]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikash_Dhorasoo

 

18 caps for France

[manc-mag 1]

I think it's quite sad that in Thailand etc. you get one man and his dog watching the matches there but everyone goes mad for the Premier League.

It's even sadder when the dog gets barbecued at half-time.

 

And the dog is the blokes half time snack.

[manc-mag 1]

too late

[Guest alex]

I think it's quite sad that in Thailand etc. you get one man and his dog watching the matches there but everyone goes mad for the Premier League.

It's even sadder when the dog gets barbecued at half-time.

 

And the dog is the blokes half time snack.

Great minds eh?

[McFaul 35]

If you look at Asia as well, football is generally the number sport in the vast majority of countries. China it is, places like Iran, Indonesia, Thailand it is, Korea and Japan worship the sport, even in India in terms of TV interest it is number 2 after cricket.

 

The national sport of Thailand is thai boxing. In Japan, baseball is more popular than football and sumo is the national sport. Sure football is popular in China but so are many other sports like martial arts, table tennis, basketball etc.

 

So I think it's a cultural thing, football is not as dominant in Asia as it is in Europe or South America.

 

India is an enigma when it comes to sports, 1,2 billion inhabitants, at the last summer olympics they won three medals...

The fact is whether you dress stats up or not there are more people playing and watching football in Asia than there are in Europe. That's an indisputable fact.

 

How is it a fact? Do you reckon China or India have anywhere near the footballing facilities or setup that European countries have? Whatever your ability at football in this country there are tons of places to play: 5 aside, 7 aside, loads of Sunday Leagues, Northern Alliance, Northern League etc.

 

In India you get a cricket bat and a dusty strip of land to play on if you are lucky.

Stanley Matthews didn't have facilities. If you ever read John Edward Thompson Milburn's book the only facility he ever ever had was a stone, that's how he learned to play football.

 

In the last thirty years this area of 1m produced at least four players who would be the greatest ever in an area of 4,700m. That is a fact, and mentioning solely facilities, and the fact in some countries football isn't number one, is basically saying you haven't got an answer as to why this is.

 

They aren't facts, they are your opinions man. It's not hard to fathom out Stevie. Every kid in this country practically grows up playing football, it's on telly almost every night. In Asia they don't. India and China account for 2.5billion people and football is way way down on the list of their top sports. Cricket, Basketball and Baseball are billion dollar industries over there.

 

It's like saying, why don't we produce shit loads of good baseball players? Its on ESPN every night. Plenty of people watch it.

Football is the number one sport in China you flid. Some Premier League games are watched by 400m people, that's twenty times more than than what watched the 1990 WC Semi Final between England and West Germany. Why the fuck do you think the likes of Man Utd go to Asia every year, and Real Madrid. Arsenal and Chelsea went in the summer 90,000 crowds at both, and they could've filled them 10 times over. There are more football fans in Asia than there are in Western Europe that is an indisputable fact of life.

 

It's not like saying why do we produce shit baseball players at all you idiot. No one likes baseball here and our population is 52m not 4.7 billion.

[Park Life 71]

How many great players has America created really?

[McFaul 35]

A stone?

I seem to remember reading about him in the Shoot or Match Xmas annual one year and he used to practice with a tennis ball.

In his book he said he used to kick a stone about for years, and never kicked a ball till he was 12 years of age.

[Park Life 71]

Stevie there is a difference of enjoing a sport as a spectacle and it being a fundamental activity of the culture itself IMO.

[McFaul 35]

http://en.wikipedia....Vikash_Dhorasoo

 

18 caps for France

So. He was shite.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baichung_Bhutia

[manc-mag 1]

A stone?

I seem to remember reading about him in the Shoot or Match Xmas annual one year and he used to practice with a tennis ball.

In his book he said he used to kick a stone about for years, and never kicked a ball till he was 12 years of age.

 

He used his feet to blast away the shackles and the walls came tumbling down.

 

Great line.

[Kid Dynamite 7181]

Flid? How old are you Stevie?

 

You have your answers, they are roughly the same from everyone. Sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

 

There's a big difference in watching a sport and playing a sport. Millions used to get Ricky Hatton's fights on PPV. Doesn't mean every kid in the country was going to boxing classes.

[Park Life 71]

A stone?

I seem to remember reading about him in the Shoot or Match Xmas annual one year and he used to practice with a tennis ball.

In his book he said he used to kick a stone about for years, and never kicked a ball till he was 12 years of age.

 

I'm at my best with the imaginery ball.

[Park Life 71]

Flid? How old are you Stevie?

 

You have your answers, they are roughly the same from everyone. Sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

 

There's a big difference in watching a sport and playing a sport. Millions used to get Ricky Hatton's fights on PPV. Doesn't mean every kid in the country was going to boxing classes.

 

But, what did he want to hear?

[McFaul 35]

Stevie there is a difference of enjoing a sport as a spectacle and it being a fundamental activity of the culture itself IMO.

None of it explains entirely why an area with 70% of the worlds population has literally produced no one.

[McFaul 35]

Flid? How old are you Stevie?

 

You have your answers, they are roughly the same from everyone. Sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

 

There's a big difference in watching a sport and playing a sport. Millions used to get Ricky Hatton's fights on PPV. Doesn't mean every kid in the country was going to boxing classes.

You're absolutely shite at debating, regardless what the subject is.

[JawD 99]

It was touched on but I think its that Football there is a big spectacle, not necessarily a participation. they enjoy the glamour of it and the big players but are not about to turn out to play sunday league. Similarly like in the States. Football is a growing sport despite their population, most kids play Baseball.

[Kid Dynamite 7181]

Take your fucking homo erotic 'look into my eye' avatar and shove it up your arse.

[Guest alex]

Stevie there is a difference of enjoing a sport as a spectacle and it being a fundamental activity of the culture itself IMO.

Aye, that's sort of what I was getting at. I think you might see more coming through in the next 20 years though with the explosion of the game on TV.

[Park Life 71]

Stevie there is a difference of enjoing a sport as a spectacle and it being a fundamental activity of the culture itself IMO.

None of it explains entirely why an area with 70% of the worlds population has literally produced no one.

 

Alright they're too weak mentally and phsically and a load of them are ladyboys.

[Park Life 71]

Stevie there is a difference of enjoing a sport as a spectacle and it being a fundamental activity of the culture itself IMO.

Aye, that's sort of what I was getting at. I think you might see more coming through in the next 20 years though with the explosion of the game on TV.

 

I think that's exactly what will happen and then we won't even get past the group stages.

[Kid Dynamite 7181]

Flid? How old are you Stevie?

 

You have your answers, they are roughly the same from everyone. Sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

 

There's a big difference in watching a sport and playing a sport. Millions used to get Ricky Hatton's fights on PPV. Doesn't mean every kid in the country was going to boxing classes.

You're absolutely shite at debating, regardless what the subject is.

 

Sorry Paxman. You probably need to be a little more open minded yourself before you become one of the worlds great debaters tbh

[hostile_statue 0]

Cricket is the national sport of India closely followed by 'Who wants to be a millionaire'.. Chess became very popular when Anand climbed the rankings. Football is viewed as a spectacle in most of Asia rather than a 'must do' sport. In Asia in general education and science are venerated to such a level that it's almost like a sport...(no running out onto the allotment after school). If China for instance set their mind to it and more players played abroad could become a force in modern football. Ultimately a lot of it comes down to prestige. In Europe it is asscociated with prestige and still a way out of poverty/poor education/mucking about in school (but the infrastructure is there to catch these young players). In Asia education is the way out and is the number one sport.

 

Yeah, an Indian kid doesn't have world class players to look up and aspire to. That's what football culture is about. No coincidence that the NE of England has produced so many top class footballers. It's not the biggest area in terms of population, it's about football culture. Bairns in Newcastle grow up with Gazza, Beardsley, Shearer et al to aspire to.