Kevin Carr's Gloves 3905 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Large collection of unsubstantiated allegations http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/bbcs-jimmy-savile-and-child-abuse-cover.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3905 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Large collection of unsubstantiated allegations http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/bbcs-jimmy-savile-and-child-abuse-cover.html?m=1 F*ck me that was a bit rambling. So according to that half of the past 2 governments are paedos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17290 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Thats why he was never prosecuted while he was alive....he knew where all the bodies were buried.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Eric Clapton was on 6 Music earlier saying how Savile's career really took off in 1967 when backstage at Top of the Pops, he introduced Cream to the Small Faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Eric Clapton was on 6 Music earlier saying how Savile's career really took off in 1967 when backstage at Top of the Pops, he introduced Cream to the Small Faces. :lol: That is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42484 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Nicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30677 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Freddie Starr arrested now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42484 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Freddie Starr arrested now. The 69 yr old went on TV to deny he had a taste for young girls ..... with his 34yr old girlfriend. Not doing yourself any favours there , Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheBobby 1 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Think it was one of the Ch4 Wife Swap gigs a few years ago that had him and Sam Fox do a 'swap' . Same series that did John Mccririck - v - Edwina Currie . Both odd to watch, mysogeny with cigars n tabs basically . Very strange viewing . He's faulty as fuck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Impressive integrity from two New York Times writers over BBC scandal Margaret Sullivan and Joe Nocera raise troubling questions about their own paper's incoming president and CEO, Mark Thompson Over the past month, two New York Times columnists have displayed brave and extraordinary journalistic integrity that deserves commendation. Both instances pertain to the still-growing scandal that BBC senior executives suppressed the media outlet's own investigation into the alleged serial pedophilia of Jimmy Savile, one of Britain's most beloved TV celebrities whose highly popular BBC show was aimed at teenagers. What makes this story relevant to the New York Times is that the BBC's director general at the time the Savile story was killed, Mark Thompson, was selected last August as the new president and chief executive officer of the New York Times Co. The announcement was made by Arthur Sulzberger Jr., the chairman of the Times Company and the newspaper's publisher. Since then, serious questions have arisen over what Thompson's role was, if any, in the killing of the Savile story, and whether he has given accurate and credible accounts of his knowledge of that episode. For obvious reasons, the New York Times has more of an interest than any other institution in determining what responsibility its incoming CEO and president bears for these sordid matters. But, for equally obvious reasons, it is difficult to expect that Times reporters and editors will be dogged in investigating the role played by their new corporate boss. That is particularly true given that Thompson was selected and publicly heralded by the long-time controlling Sulzberger family as the savior of the struggling Times. Any journalistic investigation by the Times into Thompson's behavior would, in essence, be directly adverse to the corporate interests of the company that employs those journalists. None of those concerns, however, remotely deterred the paper's new intrepid Public Editor, Margaret Sullivan. In a 23 October blog post, she unflinchingly laid out all the facts surrounding the scandal and the questions about Thompson's role, and then argued: "It's worth considering now whether he is the right person for the job, given this turn of events." Noting that "one of the most difficult challenges for news organizations is reporting on what goes on inside their own corporate walls," Sullivan demanded that the Times aggressively investigate Thompson's conduct: "All these questions ought to be asked. I hope The Times rises to the challenge and thoroughly reports what it finds. The Times might start by publishing an in-depth interview with Mr. Thompson exploring what exactly he knew, and when, about what happened at the BBC. What are the implications of these problems for him as incoming Times chief executive? What are the implications for the Times Company to have its new C.E.O. – who needs to deal with many tough business challenges here – arriving with so much unwanted baggage? "As the BBC has found out in the most painful way, for The Times to pull its punches will not be a wise way to go." As impressive as Sullivan's post was - and it was indeed impressive and literally inspiring - the nature of Sullivan's job with the Times is such that this type of independence is possible, even encouraged. The contract for the public editor position provides that the person will be employed for 18 months but no longer, so there is no chance of being re-hired, thus removing any incentive to curry favor with corporate bosses. And she "works outside of the reporting and editing structure of the newspaper" to ensure independence. Still, Sullivan has a long career in journalism ahead of her, and it is the rare journalist who would be willing to ruffle feathers and directly challenge the corporate bosses at an institution as influential as the New York Times (indeed, the first three Times Public Editors rarely challenged editorial practices in any meaningful way). Yet, as Dan Gillmor recently documented in the Guardian, Sullivan has done so repeatedly already in her short tenure, and her post demanding a real investigation by the Times into Thompson's conduct was the most impressive example yet. In contrast to Sullivan, Times columnist Joe Nocera works within the paper's traditional editorial hierarchy and has none of the contractual protections given to the public editor. Nonetheless, he devoted his column this week to questioning whether the incoming president and CEO, as the headline put it, "is the right man for the job?" Nocera (whose series of exposés on the NCAA's tyranny deserves a Pulitzer Prize) began by highlighting the Times' corporate struggles and the difficulty of trying to recruit someone for this position given the stranglehold of control the Sulzberger family has long exerted on the paper. Despite the significance to the paper of Thompson's hiring, Nocera writes that "since early October, all anybody has asked about Thompson are those two most damning of questions: what did he know, and when did he know it?" After reviewing the evidence that puts Thompson in a negative light, Nocera provides his own answer to those questions: "A few months later, the news broke in the British press that the BBC had, as The Daily Mail put it in a headline, 'shelved Jimmy Savile sex abuse investigation 'to protect its own reputation.' Given the seriousness of sexual abuse allegations — look at what it did to Penn State — you would think that Thompson and his underlings would immediately want to get to the bottom of it. But, again, they did nothing. "Thompson winds up appearing willfully ignorant, and it makes you wonder what kind of an organization the BBC was when Thompson was running it — and what kind of leader he was. It also makes you wonder what kind of chief executive he'd be at The Times." After noting that Sulzberger "is backing his man unreservedly", Nocera concludes his column with this warning: "let's hope his faith in Thompson is warranted. Otherwise, the BBC won't be the only organization being asked tough questions about its judgment." The hallmark of good journalism, what is most missing from the profession, is a willingness to adversarially challenge those who wield power even at the risk of one's own reputation or career. Few acts evince that noble attribute as well as a journalist who aims their adversarial scrutiny at their own corporate employers and publishers. Journalistic malfeasance is all too common, so it is worth taking a moment to behold, and applaud, what real journalistic courage and integrity looks like. Let us hope that the integrity displayed by Sullivan and Nocera proves to be contagious. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/31/nyt-bbc-saville-nocera I hadn't thought about it in contrast to the Penn State scandal. Wonder if the BBC will be as tainted by it as they were. Probably not if Thomson had exposed the wrongdoing of his long gone predecessors and their employees. Burying it is what will fuck them over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44995 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Proper journalists. Fewer and fewer of them left in the mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYD 0 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 The 69 yr old went on TV to deny he had a taste for young girls ..... with his 34yr old girlfriend. Not doing yourself any favours there , Freddie. So a 34 year old is a young girl ? A ridiculous comparison, typical shit stirring by an internet gobshite. And Freddie Star has not be charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Are you Kevin in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30677 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Isn't it essentially Margaret Sullivan's job to hold her own paper up to scrutiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eric Clapton was on 6 Music earlier saying how Savile's career really took off in 1967 when backstage at Top of the Pops, he introduced Cream to the Small Faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Isn't it essentially Margaret Sullivan's job to hold her own paper up to scrutiny? Aye. She's been more proactive about it than her predecessors though I think. She's only been in the job a few weeks and she's also been strongly critical of the papers propagandistic use of the term "militant" based only on government claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15561 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42484 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 So a 34 year old is a young girl ? A ridiculous comparison, typical shit stirring by an internet gobshite. And Freddie Star has not be charged. *been " Internet gobshite" Oh Irony, how I love thee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Anyone else heard these Kenneth Clarke rumours or is my mate just hopeful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42484 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Did Savile fuck him too? Christ, the man was insatiable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44995 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Newsnight have apparently decided that they won't be outing a "top political figure" as a paedo tonight. They will instead announce that a top political figure is a paedo but won't name them. Don't think it's Clarke though - heavily rumoured all over twitter who it is meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Who is it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYD 0 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 *been " Internet gobshite" Oh Irony, how I love thee! What a great reply, you have told me I forgot the "en" Well done And you still believe someone who has a 30 odd year old partner should be arrested. Blokes like you scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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