Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 With tournament theory aye but the idea of relative performance being all that matters is virtually a truism, hence the phrase 'you can only beat whats in front of you' etc. Yeah, but he can't. Which is actually measuring him against his opponents, whereas you were measuring him against his team mates. This is mint btw, keep them coming. Its a team game. You're full of revealing insight today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Oh and by the way, just remember it was my one-liner at the top of page 14 who set this all off. Deliberately so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'd have expected better preparation re: your arguments if that's the case. Relatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 And another thing HF, Chelsea arent just carrying you against Blackburn, they are also carrying me and alex since Obertan is as shit as Simpson and R Taylor (backed up by all the ratings in the press and on here etc). We've got 3 shit players but are 4th. Sounds to me like you are saying the league is shit in absolute terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'd have expected better preparation re: your arguments if that's the case. Relatively speaking. I think you and HF are just struggling with the implication of that first statement tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 For the record: Alex = Obertan (bald coot) CG = Raylor (cultured right foot) HF = Simpson (annoying twat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Stevie = Steven Carr (fat cunt) Peasepud = Peter Crouch LuckyLuke = Paul Ince (Malcolm X type) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thought you were comparing Obertan to his team mates rather than the opposition. All at the same time, his team mates are undefeated so if he's at least as good as the next shittest player and the overall team is unbeaten then relatively he can not logically be shit. Unless the premier league is shit. Worst logic ever. I'm pretty fucking shit, but I reckon Chelsea could carry me if they were playing Blackburn. Bollocks. We are carrying the entire right side of the team are we? The shit logic is all yours. Yes. Look at the heatmaps on Guardian. 16% of tackles on the right. 32% on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. possession* I bet you've got a chart in the bathroom detailing time taken having a shite, moisture and length. Edited October 19, 2011 by McFaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3525 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 With tournament theory aye but the idea of relative performance being all that matters is virtually a truism, hence the phrase 'you can only beat whats in front of you' etc. Seeing defenders usually are positioned in front of Squidward, he will at least know who he should be beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. possession* I bet you've got a chart in the bathroom detailing time taken have a shite, moisture and length. No-one's tried arguing with me I take too long to produce dry, short shits, but if they do I'd look at the evidence for sure. Edited October 19, 2011 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Sorry i just dismissed it instantly as irrelevant. Which it is even on reflection, where we tackle only proves where the opposition might have attacked more at best. The only way that statistic would reveal anything about the weakness of our right is if there was an identical frequency and 'type' of attack from Spurs down both flanks throughout the match, You know that already though HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3525 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. And reflects that most of Spuds attack goes through Bale who played on their right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I'm more like Colocinni All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. possession* I bet you've got a chart in the bathroom detailing time taken having a shite, moisture and length. He's a stand up wiper iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 With tournament theory aye but the idea of relative performance being all that matters is virtually a truism, hence the phrase 'you can only beat whats in front of you' etc. Seeing defenders usually are positioned in front of Squidward, he will at least know who he should be beating. Alex made the linguistic joke already, the serious point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Sorry i just dismissed it instantly as irrelevant. Which it is even on reflection, where we tackle only proves where the opposition might have attacked more at best. The only way that statistic would reveal anything about the weakness of our right is if there was an identical frequency and 'type' of attack from Spurs down both flanks throughout the match, You know that already though HF. Think looking at individual performances, we are carrying the right-side a bit*. *Or relatively. Edited October 19, 2011 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This is somewhat reminiscent of the same stage of last season. Only then Chez was arguing in favour of Perch being a good player iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This is somewhat reminiscent of the same stage of last season. Only then Chez was arguing in favour of Perch being a good player iirc. I love my lost causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The difference this year being there is nothing else to complain about of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3525 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 With tournament theory aye but the idea of relative performance being all that matters is virtually a truism, hence the phrase 'you can only beat whats in front of you' etc. Seeing defenders usually are positioned in front of Squidward, he will at least know who he should be beating. Alex made the linguistic joke already, the serious point still stands. So I'm a slower typist and it takes longer to get to the server from here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The difference this year being there is nothing else to complain about of course Except Simpson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 All that says is we attacked more through Jonas who had a blinder. No, it's the tackles map, not posession. And reflects that most of Spuds attack goes through Bale who played on their right. It's a good point and could contribute to the heavy bias, unfortunately, looking at where Spurs played the ball using their passing heat map shhows that only 20% went down their right while 24% went down the left. Not a great deal of difference, but if you're going to take anything from it, you'd have to say they recognised our weakness on the right and tried to expose it more during the game, despite having set up initially to try and expose Rtaylor with their best player on the right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) The difference this year being there is nothing else to complain about of course Except Simpson. And Raylor. Edited October 19, 2011 by ChezGiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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