acrossthepond 866 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 We suddenly direly need a centre back, supposed done deal for a striker hits the rocks theres a shock "sign two players??? wise up " - MA Aye. Have to say I wasn't really ever convinced by the sound of this lad, but I was pleased that we were set to get someone in. Perhaps someone upstairs finally wised up and realised we're going to need a non-African striker in January, or, as is more likely, Fat Mike's pulled the plug because "the money" is needed somewhere else (never mind the transfer profit he has made and continues to make.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Think he's just failed his medical. The selling club will ask for the report. It's not like you can just make up something and write it on there in doctors scribble. There's apparently a list of strikers anyway. Non African will be better. Edited December 16, 2011 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If this farse ends up with us getting Giroud instead, I wont lie - I`ll be a happier Norwegian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Think he's just failed his medical. The selling club will ask for the report. It's not like you can just make up something and write it on there in doctors scribble. There's apparently a list of strikers anyway. Non African will be better. Strangely optimistic and lacking in conspiracy theories for a Parky post. Are you feeling alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Think he's just failed his medical. The selling club will ask for the report. It's not like you can just make up something and write it on there in doctors scribble. There's apparently a list of strikers anyway. Non African will be better. Strangely optimistic and lacking in conspiracy theories for a Parky post. Are you feeling alright? My thoughts on Giroud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 He's been out injured for a while anyway hasn't he? I wonder if he failed for that injury or if it's something new they've uncovered? I would have preferred a non African so they are available while Ba is away however if they think he's the right man then I don't have a problem with it, I'd rather they look at what he can offer over 5 years and not how we're going to cope if they're missing for 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Since I've never seen him play and had never heard of him until we were linked in the summer, I'd be lying if I said I was gutted about this falling through. However I am definitely concerned given that it's taken us this long to sort out which striker we wanted to sign, that there's no chance of us finding our next target by the end of next month. It seems that around 12 months is our target timescale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If we fail to sign a striker this window, there is just no point arguing that the current regime gives a toss about fotball. I wouldnt even allow them to make an excuse, it would just further aggravate me. Im quite sure we will sign a striker, they just wouldnt give Leazesmag the pleasure of carpet bombing the forums with Itoldyouso`s by signing absolutely fucking nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bias 3 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Wouldn't be too fussed if this didn't happen tbh. This Giroud's stats looks awesome. Never seen him play mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nortoon 0 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 He must look downright silly at Sochaux now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I was always sceptical of signing a striker who would leave for the ACN anyway, replacing Ba when he's away being the main purpose of an incoming striker. And as said, defenders, one left and one central, are of higher priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Cant help but think our pressing need for a centre half has meant our plans for a forward have been put on hold. Plus with Ba doing so well, they likely think they can make do without. No idea what happens when Ba goes to the ACN. Well, I do, Shola happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Lovenkrants as well. Club will be running on petrol fume for a month or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 So on a scale of 1-10, how likely do we think it is that he REALLY failed his medical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think he did fail it. The question was how much higher their standards to pass became... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2941 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 That's it exactly. Ba passed, Marveaux passed and Cabaye passed amongst the concerns of other clubs with regards to their fitness. Yet Maiga fails. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 That's it exactly. Ba passed, Marveaux passed and Cabaye passed amongst the concerns of other clubs with regards to their fitness. Yet Maiga fails. Very strange. Ba and Marveaux were free transfers, don't forget. I'm not aware of Cabaye having any previous major fitness issues. If there's an issue with the guy, and the club were planning on spending money on him then fair play to them for calling it off. After Marveaux in particular, perhaps they just don't want to take another risk. Also - I imagine our medical facilities are better than Sochaux's. Reports suggest we even sought a second opinion, one that backed up the original findings. Astounds me that people think it's fake. There's cynicism and then there's delusion. Personally I was never fully convinced by this guy. As long as we get a striker in regardless, I'm not that bothered. I'll get angry about it if it doesn't happen, not before we know anything like some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm not that arsed about him "failing" maybe we have dodged a bullet, who knows. As you say, the only time I'll really spit my dummy out is if we do not sign a forward at all and then they bring this up as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 My worry is we've obviously invested a lot of negotiation and time into bringing this deal in before the January window. Now that it seems Maiga is no longer a certain signing, have we really got any alternatives lined up? I don't think we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I find it hard to believe he's failed a medical that marveaux and ba with their knees could pass. you can say but they were free transfers, but it's the same medical and they're not free, if someones got a problem that makes them fail a medical you don't go "fuck it sure it's only costing us a million in agent fees and a 30k a week fire away" the cynical shite in me makes me think our need to bring in at least a defender they hadn't planned on means they'll either not bother with a striker and have killed this deal off with the "medical" or they'll now try to bring in a freebie cover type striker. We don't know why he failed it do we? Might be a heart problem or something. Marveaux had a groin injury and Ba is supposed to have dodgy knees. Maiga's issue might be something more complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Aye, touch wood Ba's knees haven't exploded so far, nor did they when he was at West Ham. Just because a player has had a past injury, it doesn't necessarily mean they adhere to the Kieron Dyer model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Oh right, so I was mistaken and the second opinion/independent advisor actually stated that he's fit and healthy. The club apparently decided to stick with what their own doctors said. Bit strange after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 It would be illegal to fake the results of a medical in many different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Oh right, so I was mistaken and the second opinion/independent advisor actually stated that he's fit and healthy. The club apparently decided to stick with what their own doctors said. Bit strange after all. I'm actually with you, I was replying to Ant's post! Would RVP fail a medical at City based on his poor injury record? You can look at the fact he's struggled to complete a full season over the course of his career and assume he might get injured again, but it doesn't guarantee it'll happen. Ant thinks Ba's knees will pop because Marveaux is currently injured, even though the medical staff of Stoke, West Ham AND NUFC declare him fit to play at this level. The fact that the medical team are seeking a second opinion to make doubly sure this player isn't going to be a worthwhile investment is actually quite reassuring they aren't just declaring players fit because they're free transfers or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2941 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) While it would definitely be illegal to fiddle with the details, I would say that perhaps Ba/Marveaux didn't strictly 'pass' the medical but were passed because of the fees involved and the amount of time that was available to the club. Perhaps its a bit cynical to suggest the club is using the medical as an excuse to pull out of the deal for Maiga. But I'm not so sure it couldn't be done in a way that would be air tight from a legal standpoint. Edited December 17, 2011 by toonotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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