McFaul 35 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 PS the following year (as holders) you got a bye in the first round. Four games. Look at the teams we faced, in European football at that time it would be hard to face 6 harder sides. Waits for some pathetic quote from Shankly about "the cup with the big ears" or some equally pathetic pass me the bucket scouse pish. Like those utterly cringeworthy seventies banners the Kop used to hold up "MOSES SAID COME FORTH, SHANKS SAID NO WE'LL COME FIRST" fuckin scousers man. There was only one I liked, which was on Scouse churches in the 60's which would read: 'Jesus Saves' and then be graffitied: 'St John scores on the rebound' Usual Scouse nonsense though as you say, if anything it was a competition that was gaining in prestige due to the teams in it and by the time we won it just before Uefa 'adopted' it it was one of the three European honours that we all grew up with. Makes me cringe when you hear stuff like that from the dippers though. Seriously, 1978 they won four games, including the almighty Bruges in the final. Club Brugge for fucks sake. I know basically you just needed to be a well run club to achieve the successes they had, we had a bigger support right prior to Shankly, had more trophies, but all I ask is for someone to show me pre-1990 which team had a tougher route to a European trophy than we did in 1969. I'm not even being biased. I think the fact England didn't qualify for a major tournament from 1970 to 1980 emphasises how poor our football was in this country, yet despite that our clubs were European Champions five times in that period. It shows everything was much of a muchness, had we had a decent board then we could be the global club they are today. In some ways though I don't envy that when you see the profile of their support. You're the same age as me Sammy so you'll have grown up with the same football media coverage, Sportsneet on a Wednesday, the big match on a sunday now and then, Saint & Greavsie, Football Focus etc...and I'm not wrong in hearing the phrase said many time "the UEFA Cup is often harder to win than the European Cup" am I? Gobshite, you’re slobbering again, put your dummy back in. If all that was needed was to be well run then there were lots of teams should have won loads of trophies. It was about all the right people being brought together at the right time. Shanks was appointed because the chairman specifically wanted him above anyone else. Shanks bought the players that he thought best for the job to be done, with the help of a board who wanted to see the team get back to winning titles. Prior to Shanks coming we were in the 2nd div and considering you were in the 1st the attendance difference isn’t that much. LFC 1958 4 2 26 38.476 QF 1957 3 2 25 35.743 3 1956 3 2 25 37.224 5 1955 11 2 33 36.215 5 1954 22 1 22 40.488 NUFC 1958 19 1 19 36.241 4 1957 17 1 17 35.202 4 1956 11 1 11 37.666 QF 1955 8 1 8 42.925 Winners 1954 15 1 15 45.392 Unfortunately you’re always biased. The fairs cup was for also rans and even then the teams that were excluded reduced the quality again. At least with the EC it was for champions only, no matter which country they were champions of. You keep going on about this decent board and how you didn’t have one when the TRUTH is you didn’t have a good enough team. If you can’t face that fact you’re more deluded than I thought. Shanks and Paisley had a net spend of 2.3 million over a 22 year period up until 1983. I think even a gobshite like you will accept that to spend so little means they had the ability to find gems in lower leagues and bring them through. Something any club could have done. You make me laugh when you talk about fan profiles because if you were the representation of all Newcastle fans then you’d be laughed out of the league. You can’t know how pleased I am to know that you don’t envy our support, we have enough gobshites of our own to contend with. You’re wrong. The Fairs Cup and UEFA cup are two different comps, no matter how much one was the forerunner of the other. You could never qualify from coming 10th in the UEFA Cup. The fair play team is the only concession in that way. The whole post is just a typical disjointed emotional effort showing bitterness, as usual. Obviously the FC and UEFA are two different competitions, but LARGELY speaking the only difference was name, and by the last season of the FC the one club rule was abolished anyway. As for Newcastle fans being laughed out of the league if they were all like me, you are the most laughed at, poked fun at, ridiculed peoples and fans in the Western world, you are as well. Speak to 99% of people who don't support your club they'll have something negative to say, not about your successes but about the fans, just look at the average opinion on here about you even. Open your eyes to understand how you are perceived. You answered my own point while trying to rubbish it in your opening paragraph, you had a board who was forward thinking and made excellent choices, we had the complete opposite of that, without question you are not knowledgable enough to know Lord Westwood, widely known as the Pirate, he had control of the club for many years, and the board didn't improve till 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 PS the following year (as holders) you got a bye in the first round. Four games. Look at the teams we faced, in European football at that time it would be hard to face 6 harder sides. Waits for some pathetic quote from Shankly about "the cup with the big ears" or some equally pathetic pass me the bucket scouse pish. Like those utterly cringeworthy seventies banners the Kop used to hold up "MOSES SAID COME FORTH, SHANKS SAID NO WE'LL COME FIRST" fuckin scousers man. Our banners are famous laughed at the world over. Some are fantastic, some are shite, and some are even cringe worthy, but they are ours and they certainly add colour, humour and sarcasm to the atmosphere. My favourites are Joey ate the frogs legs etc…….Oh and to Gala . If you think this is hell etc…. I’m very proud of our differences to other teams in the Premier League, we don’t need free scarves or free flags to wave. We are different and I love it. BTW, Shanks loved the UEFA Cup as well as the EC. FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pacinofan trying and failing to diminish our achievement. Initially it was as he correctly states a competition to promote towns with Fairs around Europe. By the mid 60's it was a very, very strong competition the main quirk being, only one club per city would be admitted. So if the dippers were in it finishing 2nd, the blue dippers coming third couldn't be in it. For us, it meant because of the Merseyide and London clubs above us, 10th was good enough for us to qualify. A lot better than teams going in to the UEFA Cup by means fair play in my view. Anyway. Man Utd 68 Hibernians of Malta Sarajevo Gornik Zarbze Madrid Benfica Celtic Zurich Nantes Vojvodina Dukla Prague Inter Milan Newcastle 69 Feyenoord - Champions of Europe the very next season - humped 4-0 Sporting Lisbon - then domestically Portugal's most successful club with a European trophy won a few years earlier Real Zaragoza - major force in Spanish football Vitoria Setubal - canny side Rangers - one of the best sides in their history, a major European force Ujpesti Dosza - regarded by some as the best side in Europe at the time humping Leeds earlier Draw your own conclusions Conclusions? Oh I see it now. The teams you played, like yourselves, were also rans. The other teams were Champions. Also rans funny in that very season then Feyenoord and Sporting Lisbon were champions of their country, Feyenoord becoming champions of Europe 12 months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Didn't Forest beat Malmo to win their 2nd European Cup btw? Malmo Aye Malmo! One of the years Liverpool did fuck all in Europe they lost 4-0 or 5-0 to the massive DINAMO TBLISI iirc. When you watch old videos of Liverpool, I know you shouldn't compare era's but that team now would achieve fuck all. Their best team imo was 87/88 with Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge. Yeah Sammy Heysel was a moment waiting to happen for that club. What makes me think even worse of them is that they think they set trends off (they may have done its in all honesty before my time) with their Tacchini trackies etc.. which they got from their European excursions, but what makes me cringe so much is their Robin Hood style promotion of robbing their way round Europe bringing this gear back. They all laugh about it now, I've seen Tommy Smith recounting tales about it. If that was Newcastle I'd look back on that as a stain on our history, robbing every fucking town we come to, hardly promoting good will is it? Heysel was a moment waiting to happen for any team in Europe in that era and as we were the British team that was dominating football on the continent, no surprise that it was us. We did set trends. Robbing only happened with Liverpool fans didn’t it? FFS, I don’t know about banners or anything else being cringeworthy, you beat everything for that. Unfortunastely for your little jealous streak we have a lot of goodwill in Europe. Our fans have lots of liaisons with European fans every time we play in Europe. Some meetings between our fans and opposition ones have been going on for decades, even in Italy. In all the European matches I’ve gone to I’ve never felt any animosity from opposition fans, and have been welcomed in so many places with real warmth. Many’s the time they sing YNWA with us, they come over to chat when you’re in a bar, swap scarves and mementoes. I have so many good memories of European games and the fans that go with those teams. Even when they come to this city they come early for a good time and walk around the city centre chatting and having a laugh with the locals, The Cavern is packed as are all the Beatle bits. Many look on Anfield as hallowed ground and are excited to be there, getting their photo taken with the Shankly statue, the Paisley and Shankly gates, LFC fans, anything to add to their joy of being at Anfield. No stain here at all. All of that is not to say that hooliganism and fighting won’t happen in the future, no-one knows when it could happen, but up to now they are my experiences and though I’d love Heysel not to have happened, I wouldn’t swap being a Liverpool fan for anything in the world, I love every last thing about it. Officially the worst fans in Europe tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 When Pacinofan types does anyone hear a whiny scouse voice? I do. If Alan Ball squeakiness is 10, and Barry White is 1, what level of squeakiness do you think Pacinofan would be? He gets incredibly emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 When Pacinofan types does anyone hear a whiny scouse voice? I do. If Alan Ball squeakiness is 10, and Barry White is 1, what level of squeakiness do you think Pacinofan would be? He gets incredibly emotional. I'm getting Emlyn Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 When Pacinofan types does anyone hear a whiny scouse voice? I do. If Alan Ball squeakiness is 10, and Barry White is 1, what level of squeakiness do you think Pacinofan would be? He gets incredibly emotional. I'm getting Emlyn Hughes. When he scored that goal against Ipswich on 101 Great Goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 When Pacinofan types does anyone hear a whiny scouse voice? I do. If Alan Ball squeakiness is 10, and Barry White is 1, what level of squeakiness do you think Pacinofan would be? He gets incredibly emotional. I'm getting Emlyn Hughes. When he scored that goal against Ipswich on 101 Great Goals? I was thinking more his being an annoying little cunt on A Question of Sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Here is a photo from Sunderlands biggest ever achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Fat fucking inbred bitter cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 On RTG, I may have a wander over some fucking mate posting that A lad i work with just got his tickets in the away end for saturday, row 18 seat 723 i think. Any idea where abouts in the away section that is? Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.ph...0#ixzz1VH2k9zxb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Probably a wind up. Still though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Here is a photo from Sunderlands biggest ever achievement The most embarrassing photograph in the public domain. Look at them two fat cunts cuddling each other at the front, the big red headed mong. Honestly, when they got relegated (numerous times) I couldn't care less. In fact, I was more disappointed than anything else that the best derby in English football wouldn't occur. These bunch on the photo, who've reached the vinegar strokes are embarrassing. MASSIVE CLUB. MASSIVE HEADS. MASSIVE BENEFIT PAYMENTS. MASSIVE MONGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wew, wew, wew. Bloke at front with his arms aloft next to the 2 boyfriends cuddling; Is that Davey Charlton from Strangeways behind him? I honestly believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wew, wew, wew. Bloke at front with his arms aloft next to the 2 boyfriends cuddling; Is that Davey Charlton from Strangeways behind him? I honestly believe it is. Flinging his own shit about to the delight of the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac-Toon 1 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wew, wew, wew. Bloke at front with his arms aloft next to the 2 boyfriends cuddling; Is that Davey Charlton from Strangeways behind him? I honestly believe it is. Flinging his own shit about to the delight of the crowd. You see who I mean? White top on with blue and red strike. It's definitely 'Big Davey C', like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wew, wew, wew. Bloke at front with his arms aloft next to the 2 boyfriends cuddling; Is that Davey Charlton from Strangeways behind him? I honestly believe it is. Flinging his own shit about to the delight of the crowd. You see who I mean? White top on with blue and red strike. It's definitely 'Big Davey C', like. I knew who you meant straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wew, wew, wew. Bloke at front with his arms aloft next to the 2 boyfriends cuddling; Is that Davey Charlton from Strangeways behind him? I honestly believe it is. Flinging his own shit about to the delight of the crowd. You see who I mean? White top on with blue and red strike. It's definitely 'Big Davey C', like. Aye, directly above Billy No-Mates who's desperate to get in on the hom action next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7575 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 How many of those mugs have bright red heads? What's that about? Then the one bloke who's been around Phil Brown's place, using the tanning salon and looking like a right tosser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14085 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Quality Where's Wally stuff from OzToonFan like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 My heart says we can sneak a 1-0 or 2-1, my head says 0-0. I'm hoping the FA keep an eye on the boring yet inevitable pitch invasion and actually punish the fuckers this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Is the guy hugging his son/friend/whatever crying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianbob 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 No recognised left back! No decent strikers! No real creativity and virtually no shots on goal against the Arse. I'm afraid a 3-0 defeat is the likely outcome on saturday as much as it pains me to say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 No recognised left back! No decent strikers! No real creativity and virtually no shots on goal against the Arse. I'm afraid a 3-0 defeat is the likely outcome on saturday as much as it pains me to say it! Funny, i said that on page three but have since been well informed by smarter football folk that because Arsenal didnt score past us no lesser team will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFilet 0 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 No recognised left back! No decent strikers! No real creativity and virtually no shots on goal against the Arse. I'm afraid a 3-0 defeat is the likely outcome on saturday as much as it pains me to say it! Funny, i said that on page three but have since been well informed by smarter football folk that because Arsenal didnt score past us no lesser team will The Mackems played far better than Arsenal last weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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