DEADMAN 0 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 oh for petes sakes lol ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Oberrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 To be fair on obertan i dont think he had the space on monday nite 2 make an impact. The pitch was tiny and qpr closed down our players very quickly, and our whole team was shite. Cabaye espescially with his passing skills didnt take advantage of Obertans pace with any killer balls in behind. I reckon with a more clever and thought out formation than 442 we cud use his pace and hopefully he cud turn out to be a decent player, no point stickin him right wing against a left back and left midfielder and expecting him to be amazing. His pace is a weapon that needs 2 be exploited for him 2 excell imo Pitch dimensions of Loftus Road: 112 x 72 yards Pitch dimensions of SJP: 110 × 73 yards Aye, we've got one of the narrowest pitches going. Only a matter of time before MA realises that if you make it a few yards narrower you can play without full backs and wingers altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 McKay represented QPR and Barton represented himself so they pocketed the money. NUFC have reported McKay but he has defended it saying QPR got value for money. Kind of obvious what went on really. On what basis would NUFC report McKay? Representing Barton with NUFC and QPR, i think thats frowned upon which is why they claim Barton represented himself in the QPR deal. But he was going on a free anyway, it's not like we missed out on any money. Unless you're suggesting that McKay induced Barton into those tweets in order to get a free transfer? If we learnt anything this summer it was the freer the transfer the higher the agent fee. I presume by representing himself Barton also would have gained financially. An intereting set of incentives at play anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 ober and out of the first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17242 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 McKay represented QPR and Barton represented himself so they pocketed the money. NUFC have reported McKay but he has defended it saying QPR got value for money. Kind of obvious what went on really. On what basis would NUFC report McKay? Representing Barton with NUFC and QPR, i think thats frowned upon which is why they claim Barton represented himself in the QPR deal. But he was going on a free anyway, it's not like we missed out on any money. Unless you're suggesting that McKay induced Barton into those tweets in order to get a free transfer? If we learnt anything this summer it was the freer the transfer the higher the agent fee. I presume by representing himself Barton also would have gained financially. An intereting set of incentives at play anyway. Only 2 parties involved no "transfer fee" for the clubs to haggle about. So only the contract to negotiate....how the fuck can Mckay justify at least 1 million for an afternoon's work?....the likes of Fifa and the FA want shooting for handing a huge amount of control of the game over to the likes of these fuckers. Middle men are cunts. What the fuck do they bring to party?....am all for a player's interests' to be protected but if they used the PFA or some other registered salaried individual then the huge fees agents pick up could either go to the talent or stay in the game. How much skill does it take to negotiate a contract?...can you get a book from the library on it?..I'd be tempted to do that rather than line the pockets of some spiv with ideas above his station in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 McKay represented QPR and Barton represented himself so they pocketed the money. NUFC have reported McKay but he has defended it saying QPR got value for money. Kind of obvious what went on really. On what basis would NUFC report McKay? Representing Barton with NUFC and QPR, i think thats frowned upon which is why they claim Barton represented himself in the QPR deal. But he was going on a free anyway, it's not like we missed out on any money. Unless you're suggesting that McKay induced Barton into those tweets in order to get a free transfer? If we learnt anything this summer it was the freer the transfer the higher the agent fee. I presume by representing himself Barton also would have gained financially. An intereting set of incentives at play anyway. Only 2 parties involved no "transfer fee" for the clubs to haggle about. So only the contract to negotiate....how the fuck can Mckay justify at least 1 million for an afternoon's work?....the likes of Fifa and the FA want shooting for handing a huge amount of control of the game over to the likes of these fuckers. Middle men are cunts. What the fuck do they bring to party?....am all for a player's interests' to be protected but if they used the PFA or some other registered salaried individual then the huge fees agents pick up could either go to the talent or stay in the game. How much skill does it take to negotiate a contract?...can you get a book from the library on it?..I'd be tempted to do that rather than line the pockets of some spiv with ideas above his station in life Yeah get a book out the library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17242 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 McKay represented QPR and Barton represented himself so they pocketed the money. NUFC have reported McKay but he has defended it saying QPR got value for money. Kind of obvious what went on really. On what basis would NUFC report McKay? Representing Barton with NUFC and QPR, i think thats frowned upon which is why they claim Barton represented himself in the QPR deal. But he was going on a free anyway, it's not like we missed out on any money. Unless you're suggesting that McKay induced Barton into those tweets in order to get a free transfer? If we learnt anything this summer it was the freer the transfer the higher the agent fee. I presume by representing himself Barton also would have gained financially. An intereting set of incentives at play anyway. Only 2 parties involved no "transfer fee" for the clubs to haggle about. So only the contract to negotiate....how the fuck can Mckay justify at least 1 million for an afternoon's work?....the likes of Fifa and the FA want shooting for handing a huge amount of control of the game over to the likes of these fuckers. Middle men are cunts. What the fuck do they bring to party?....am all for a player's interests' to be protected but if they used the PFA or some other registered salaried individual then the huge fees agents pick up could either go to the talent or stay in the game. How much skill does it take to negotiate a contract?...can you get a book from the library on it?..I'd be tempted to do that rather than line the pockets of some spiv with ideas above his station in life Yeah get a book out the library. yeah well.."football contracts for idiots" could be a bestseller What do you actually need to know?......if we take this story at face value then Barton and Mckay have between them extorted a couple of million out of 2 football clubs for next to no effort, just by being a bit smart,very brazen and not giving a fuck about the consequences. I'm not saying I could do it, but I really don't think it's rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 McKay represented QPR and Barton represented himself so they pocketed the money. NUFC have reported McKay but he has defended it saying QPR got value for money. Kind of obvious what went on really. On what basis would NUFC report McKay? Representing Barton with NUFC and QPR, i think thats frowned upon which is why they claim Barton represented himself in the QPR deal. But he was going on a free anyway, it's not like we missed out on any money. Unless you're suggesting that McKay induced Barton into those tweets in order to get a free transfer? If we learnt anything this summer it was the freer the transfer the higher the agent fee. I presume by representing himself Barton also would have gained financially. An intereting set of incentives at play anyway. Only 2 parties involved no "transfer fee" for the clubs to haggle about. So only the contract to negotiate....how the fuck can Mckay justify at least 1 million for an afternoon's work?....the likes of Fifa and the FA want shooting for handing a huge amount of control of the game over to the likes of these fuckers. Middle men are cunts. What the fuck do they bring to party?....am all for a player's interests' to be protected but if they used the PFA or some other registered salaried individual then the huge fees agents pick up could either go to the talent or stay in the game. How much skill does it take to negotiate a contract?...can you get a book from the library on it?..I'd be tempted to do that rather than line the pockets of some spiv with ideas above his station in life Yeah get a book out the library. yeah well.."football contracts for idiots" could be a bestseller What do you actually need to know?......if we take this story at face value then Barton and Mckay have between them extorted a couple of million out of 2 football clubs for next to no effort, just by being a bit smart,very brazen and not giving a fuck about the consequences. I'm not saying I could do it, but I really don't think it's rocket science. Wrong question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 To be fair on obertan i dont think he had the space on monday nite 2 make an impact. The pitch was tiny and qpr closed down our players very quickly, and our whole team was shite. Cabaye espescially with his passing skills didnt take advantage of Obertans pace with any killer balls in behind. I reckon with a more clever and thought out formation than 442 we cud use his pace and hopefully he cud turn out to be a decent player, no point stickin him right wing against a left back and left midfielder and expecting him to be amazing. His pace is a weapon that needs 2 be exploited for him 2 excell imo Pitch dimensions of Loftus Road: 112 x 72 yards Pitch dimensions of SJP: 110 × 73 yards Aye, we've got one of the narrowest pitches going. Only a matter of time before MA realises that if you make it a few yards narrower you can play without full backs and wingers altogether. Used to be even narrower iirc. I think it was widened when they built the Milburn Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Anyway, surely Obertan is Barton's replacement. When we signed Obertan, I'm sure Pardew mentioned it all hinged on whether Routledge went to Swansea. So in that Case he's Routledge's replacement and we got no one in to replace Barton. The whole striker debacle kind of overshadowed us not replacing barton, and will probably dominate again in January when we're "trying" to sign a striker, and will be a smokescreen for not bulking up what little squad depth we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13859 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Obertan's turnip head is replacement for them both as he takes up two seats on the coach to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44805 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Obertan's turnip head is replacement for them both as he takes up two seats on the coach to himself. He is fucking Megamind like. What a ludicrous cranium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 tefal heed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Anyway, surely Obertan is Barton's replacement. When we signed Obertan, I'm sure Pardew mentioned it all hinged on whether Routledge went to Swansea. So in that Case he's Routledge's replacement and we got no one in to replace Barton. The whole striker debacle kind of overshadowed us not replacing barton, and will probably dominate again in January when we're "trying" to sign a striker, and will be a smokescreen for not bulking up what little squad depth we have. I know what you mean in terms of the squad, I just meant Obertan looks like he's going to start a few games (unlike Routledge under Pardew) wide right which is where Barton played (albeit in a different way) so he's his replacement in the first XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Anyway, surely Obertan is Barton's replacement. When we signed Obertan, I'm sure Pardew mentioned it all hinged on whether Routledge went to Swansea. So in that Case he's Routledge's replacement and we got no one in to replace Barton. The whole striker debacle kind of overshadowed us not replacing barton, and will probably dominate again in January when we're "trying" to sign a striker, and will be a smokescreen for not bulking up what little squad depth we have. I know what you mean in terms of the squad, I just meant Obertan looks like he's going to start a few games (unlike Routledge under Pardew) wide right which is where Barton played (albeit in a different way) so he's his replacement in the first XI. I get ya now It's a shame it's came to that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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