Skys Premier League live games - till end of November

[Rhys1879SAFC 0]

Again with the cities debate...

 

I disagree with the the ratio to fans is 2:1 in Newcastle's favour aswell, surely your average crowd would be more than 7000 higher than ours if that were the case?

 

Its pretty close in the north-east I would wager, outside of Sunderland, I think County Durham is still the hotbed of Mackem support, I know loads of Sunderland fans from Gateshead, not sure how though, you'd think they'd be all Mags and I was quite surprised at the amount of SAFC fans from towns like Hartlepool and Darlington.

 

Internationally however, I would be a fool to argue its close in any way.

Sunderland have a great owner, have their best team arguably in living memory, were unbeaten against the the best 5 teams at home last season, have signed 9 decent players this summer. While Newcastle sold their best young striker in years, have been deliberately lied to, have been relegated, had managers that have been sacked for no logical reason, have been taken the piss out of, have been proven in court that they are held in contempt by the owners, have no clear long term plan, will sell their best players when the optimum value time is right, and are largely directionless. Yet still 8000 more fans stream in to the the stadium every week.

 

Not only that our ticket prices are at least 60% more than Sunderland's. 28 QUID FOR THE BEST SEATS IN THE HOOSE!! That's about £70 odd at Newcastle for the biggest 5 games of the season, cheapest tickets 45 quid in a recession. If we had your ticket prices, they'd need to build level 8 and level 9 never mind level 7. EASILY 2:1 in our favour in the North East. Even in Co.Durham we probably have more supporters, towns like Darlo completely in our favour half of Hartlepool support us, and this is past your catchment area even. 2:1 is conservative.

 

Nah, deluded.

 

And don't go giving it the "we've been treat so poorly" bollocks, if you'd had it as bad as we have over the past 20 years then would you fuck have 40,000 coming in through the gates. We had 47,000 regularly coming in between 2000-2002 and then Bob Murray and Reid fucked us off, two relegations with two record points lows... and you wonder why some fans are still finding it hard to believe in the club these days? Its going to take years to shake off the damage those two relegations did to the club, to still have an average of 40,000 coming in, and still get the odd crowd of 48,000 here and there is absolutely fucking unbelievable.

 

Don't try and deride Sunderland's support because for all your bitching and moaning about whats happened at Newcastle over the last few years, its nothing compared to what we've been through matey, perhaps you should try and get your head around that.

[McFaul 35]

Again with the cities debate...

 

I disagree with the the ratio to fans is 2:1 in Newcastle's favour aswell, surely your average crowd would be more than 7000 higher than ours if that were the case?

 

Its pretty close in the north-east I would wager, outside of Sunderland, I think County Durham is still the hotbed of Mackem support, I know loads of Sunderland fans from Gateshead, not sure how though, you'd think they'd be all Mags and I was quite surprised at the amount of SAFC fans from towns like Hartlepool and Darlington.

 

Internationally however, I would be a fool to argue its close in any way.

Sunderland have a great owner, have their best team arguably in living memory, were unbeaten against the the best 5 teams at home last season, have signed 9 decent players this summer. While Newcastle sold their best young striker in years, have been deliberately lied to, have been relegated, had managers that have been sacked for no logical reason, have been taken the piss out of, have been proven in court that they are held in contempt by the owners, have no clear long term plan, will sell their best players when the optimum value time is right, and are largely directionless. Yet still 8000 more fans stream in to the the stadium every week.

 

Not only that our ticket prices are at least 60% more than Sunderland's. 28 QUID FOR THE BEST SEATS IN THE HOOSE!! That's about £70 odd at Newcastle for the biggest 5 games of the season, cheapest tickets 45 quid in a recession. If we had your ticket prices, they'd need to build level 8 and level 9 never mind level 7. EASILY 2:1 in our favour in the North East. Even in Co.Durham we probably have more supporters, towns like Darlo completely in our favour half of Hartlepool support us, and this is past your catchment area even. 2:1 is conservative.

 

Nah, deluded.

 

And don't go giving it the "we've been treat so poorly" bollocks, if you'd had it as bad as we have over the past 20 years then would you fuck have 40,000 coming in through the gates. We had 47,000 regularly coming in between 2000-2002 and then Bob Murray and Reid fucked us off, two relegations with two record points lows... and you wonder why some fans are still finding it hard to believe in the club these days? Its going to take years to shake off the damage those two relegations did to the club, to still have an average of 40,000 coming in, and still get the odd crowd of 48,000 here and there is absolutely fucking unbelievable.

 

Don't try and deride Sunderland's support because for all your bitching and moaning about whats happened at Newcastle over the last few years, its nothing compared to what we've been through matey, perhaps you should try and get your head around that.

It's the present we're dealing with though no good moping about the past when you have a good side there now, besides our fall has been greater than yours, you've always been shite, and if you paid our ticket prices you'd be getting 23 or 24000 absolute tops. Bob Murray even said as much when you were moaning circa 2003, about not being able to compete with Newcastle, although its only a short while ago, gate income was a lot more important than it is now.

[CleeToonFan 1]

Again with the cities debate...

 

I disagree with the the ratio to fans is 2:1 in Newcastle's favour aswell, surely your average crowd would be more than 7000 higher than ours if that were the case?

 

Its pretty close in the north-east I would wager, outside of Sunderland, I think County Durham is still the hotbed of Mackem support, I know loads of Sunderland fans from Gateshead, not sure how though, you'd think they'd be all Mags and I was quite surprised at the amount of SAFC fans from towns like Hartlepool and Darlington.

 

Internationally however, I would be a fool to argue its close in any way.

Sunderland have a great owner, have their best team arguably in living memory, were unbeaten against the the best 5 teams at home last season, have signed 9 decent players this summer. While Newcastle sold their best young striker in years, have been deliberately lied to, have been relegated, had managers that have been sacked for no logical reason, have been taken the piss out of, have been proven in court that they are held in contempt by the owners, have no clear long term plan, will sell their best players when the optimum value time is right, and are largely directionless. Yet still 8000 more fans stream in to the the stadium every week.

 

Not only that our ticket prices are at least 60% more than Sunderland's. 28 QUID FOR THE BEST SEATS IN THE HOOSE!! That's about £70 odd at Newcastle for the biggest 5 games of the season, cheapest tickets 45 quid in a recession. If we had your ticket prices, they'd need to build level 8 and level 9 never mind level 7. EASILY 2:1 in our favour in the North East. Even in Co.Durham we probably have more supporters, towns like Darlo completely in our favour half of Hartlepool support us, and this is past your catchment area even. 2:1 is conservative.

 

Nah, deluded.

 

And don't go giving it the "we've been treat so poorly" bollocks, if you'd had it as bad as we have over the past 20 years then would you fuck have 40,000 coming in through the gates. We had 47,000 regularly coming in between 2000-2002 and then Bob Murray and Reid fucked us off, two relegations with two record points lows... and you wonder why some fans are still finding it hard to believe in the club these days? Its going to take years to shake off the damage those two relegations did to the club, to still have an average of 40,000 coming in, and still get the odd crowd of 48,000 here and there is absolutely fucking unbelievable.

 

Don't try and deride Sunderland's support because for all your bitching and moaning about whats happened at Newcastle over the last few years, its nothing compared to what we've been through matey, perhaps you should try and get your head around that.

A lot of people may hate Newcastle, but no other teams fans care about Sunderland. I live in Grimsby, and 5 Newcastle fans (me included) went to my school, I've never met a local Sunderland fan in my life (and i've met fans of teams like Fulham and Blackburn!) Newcastles fan base as a whole is much larger than Sunderlands, and these are the people that mostly watch it on tv. I go to as many games as I can, but watch every game on television (not that it'll ever stop me going to a game), as do most of my Newcastle supporting mates. The 5-1 derby I watched in the pub, full of Newcastle fans, not one Mackem in sight, fan base as a whole is much larger, fan base in Tyneside is only slightly bigger than that of Sunderlands in Wearside, hence the attendances

[toon90 0]

Again with the cities debate...

 

I disagree with the the ratio to fans is 2:1 in Newcastle's favour aswell, surely your average crowd would be more than 7000 higher than ours if that were the case?

 

Its pretty close in the north-east I would wager, outside of Sunderland, I think County Durham is still the hotbed of Mackem support, I know loads of Sunderland fans from Gateshead, not sure how though, you'd think they'd be all Mags and I was quite surprised at the amount of SAFC fans from towns like Hartlepool and Darlington.

 

Internationally however, I would be a fool to argue its close in any way.

Sunderland have a great owner, have their best team arguably in living memory, were unbeaten against the the best 5 teams at home last season, have signed 9 decent players this summer. While Newcastle sold their best young striker in years, have been deliberately lied to, have been relegated, had managers that have been sacked for no logical reason, have been taken the piss out of, have been proven in court that they are held in contempt by the owners, have no clear long term plan, will sell their best players when the optimum value time is right, and are largely directionless. Yet still 8000 more fans stream in to the the stadium every week.

 

Not only that our ticket prices are at least 60% more than Sunderland's. 28 QUID FOR THE BEST SEATS IN THE HOOSE!! That's about £70 odd at Newcastle for the biggest 5 games of the season, cheapest tickets 45 quid in a recession. If we had your ticket prices, they'd need to build level 8 and level 9 never mind level 7. EASILY 2:1 in our favour in the North East. Even in Co.Durham we probably have more supporters, towns like Darlo completely in our favour half of Hartlepool support us, and this is past your catchment area even. 2:1 is conservative.

 

Nah, deluded.

 

And don't go giving it the "we've been treat so poorly" bollocks, if you'd had it as bad as we have over the past 20 years then would you fuck have 40,000 coming in through the gates. We had 47,000 regularly coming in between 2000-2002 and then Bob Murray and Reid fucked us off, two relegations with two record points lows... and you wonder why some fans are still finding it hard to believe in the club these days? Its going to take years to shake off the damage those two relegations did to the club, to still have an average of 40,000 coming in, and still get the odd crowd of 48,000 here and there is absolutely fucking unbelievable.

 

Don't try and deride Sunderland's support because for all your bitching and moaning about whats happened at Newcastle over the last few years, its nothing compared to what we've been through matey, perhaps you should try and get your head around that.

A lot of people may hate Newcastle, but no other teams fans care about Sunderland. I live in Grimsby, and 5 Newcastle fans (me included) went to my school, I've never met a local Sunderland fan in my life (and i've met fans of teams like Fulham and Blackburn!) Newcastles fan base as a whole is much larger than Sunderlands, and these are the people that mostly watch it on tv. I go to as many games as I can, but watch every game on television (not that it'll ever stop me going to a game), as do most of my Newcastle supporting mates. The 5-1 derby I watched in the pub, full of Newcastle fans, not one Mackem in sight, fan base as a whole is much larger, fan base in Tyneside is only slightly bigger than that of Sunderlands in Wearside, hence the attendances

 

Hey your right, im from londom but support newcastle united (picked to support them when i was like 5 and never changed!) and yh here, even in school, although i was the only nufc fan every other footy fan knew about nufc and all the players, results etc but no one bothered about sunderland. i dont think ivd ever heard of a sunderland fan from where im from and majority people in london think nufc is the better club in the north apart from man u obv. only sunderland fans think their more well known off than us but as usual it aint true.