NFL Lockout

[Guest alex]

Reminds me of the old Steve Davis joke. He's in bed on his wedding night when his lass asks him what the delay is. He says I'm not sure whether to go for the pink or the brown.

[tooner 243]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts.

 

 

Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs?

 

although i do know that we can't really put an exact finger on what it is, everyone here seems to think its about being polite and "nice" but i've met lots of fellow canadians that are utter c*nts so that is out the window, others would say it's the hockey playing/watching beer swilling stereotype, which is total bullshit

i know lots of canadians that only watch one or two hockey games a year and thats only if its a national team game or the last canadian team left in the playoffs.

i think that the lack of a concrete national identity is the fact that the country itself is so massive and physically diverse that the people are as well. you make a huge deal about the regional differences in england, but geographically speaking you all live relatively close to each other.

so there you go, while i can't say exactly what being canadian IS, i can say what it isn't, we ain't amuuuriken.

[Howmanheyman 33282]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

Not everyones from Grimsby though. Times I've been to Cleethorpes and Blundell Park I've thought oh dear. Good chippy behind the away end though.

My mate must be the only lad to get chinned home & away by Grimsby fans. The 1-1 draw down there he went looking for me and this other kid and endeed up getting a dig which had his hooter covered in blood. The next game against them at home was the one where Dobbin ended our winning run. He had a freebie in his Gaffers exec box got bolloxed on the house gave some random Grimsby fans some abuse when he was on his todd waiting for a bus outside Gotham Town as he was legless and still sore about his previous encounter, apparently the Grimsby fans looked around looking for some trap, saw a lone pissed Geordie working himself and gave him another couple of digs to add to the previous season's one. Cleethorpes is one fucking dive, it has to be said.

Poor cunt. I was at that 1-1 draw if it was the one where Sheedy scored from an indirect free kick from 4 yards.

Aye, that was the one. Can't remember if it was that one or Peterborough (or both!) where the crowds outside were bottlenecked and were being very slowly let through so some metal barriers were basically brushed aside so the fans could get in, I just in to see Cunnington, the future Mackem score for them.

[McFaul 35]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts.

 

 

Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs?

 

although i do know that we can't really put an exact finger on what it is, everyone here seems to think its about being polite and "nice" but i've met lots of fellow canadians that are utter c*nts so that is out the window, others would say it's the hockey playing/watching beer swilling stereotype, which is total bullshit

i know lots of canadians that only watch one or two hockey games a year and thats only if its a national team game or the last canadian team left in the playoffs.

i think that the lack of a concrete national identity is the fact that the country itself is so massive and physically diverse that the people are as well. you make a huge deal about the regional differences in england, but geographically speaking you all live relatively close to each other.

so there you go, while i can't say exactly what being canadian IS, i can say what it isn't, we ain't amuuuriken.

I know but because we're a proper country, i.e. one with thousands of years of culture and history, you can go 50 miles here and the accent and culture is more different than if you go 3000 miles in Canada or USA.

[McFaul 35]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

Not everyones from Grimsby though. Times I've been to Cleethorpes and Blundell Park I've thought oh dear. Good chippy behind the away end though.

My mate must be the only lad to get chinned home & away by Grimsby fans. The 1-1 draw down there he went looking for me and this other kid and endeed up getting a dig which had his hooter covered in blood. The next game against them at home was the one where Dobbin ended our winning run. He had a freebie in his Gaffers exec box got bolloxed on the house gave some random Grimsby fans some abuse when he was on his todd waiting for a bus outside Gotham Town as he was legless and still sore about his previous encounter, apparently the Grimsby fans looked around looking for some trap, saw a lone pissed Geordie working himself and gave him another couple of digs to add to the previous season's one. Cleethorpes is one fucking dive, it has to be said.

Poor cunt. I was at that 1-1 draw if it was the one where Sheedy scored from an indirect free kick from 4 yards.

Aye, that was the one. Can't remember if it was that one or Peterborough (or both!) where the crowds outside were bottlenecked and were being very slowly let through so some metal barriers were basically brushed aside so the fans could get in, I just in to see Cunnington, the future Mackem score for them.

Was it not Mendonca, was dead early might've been 40 seconds, cos we were taking the piss big time whack then silence. Was probably the loudest roar I've heard off a little team.

[tooner 243]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts.

 

 

Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs?

 

although i do know that we can't really put an exact finger on what it is, everyone here seems to think its about being polite and "nice" but i've met lots of fellow canadians that are utter c*nts so that is out the window, others would say it's the hockey playing/watching beer swilling stereotype, which is total bullshit

i know lots of canadians that only watch one or two hockey games a year and thats only if its a national team game or the last canadian team left in the playoffs.

i think that the lack of a concrete national identity is the fact that the country itself is so massive and physically diverse that the people are as well. you make a huge deal about the regional differences in england, but geographically speaking you all live relatively close to each other.

so there you go, while i can't say exactly what being canadian IS, i can say what it isn't, we ain't amuuuriken.

I know but because we're a proper country, i.e. one with thousands of years of culture and history, you can go 50 miles here and the accent and culture is more different than if you go 3000 miles in Canada or USA.

 

....you do make me laugh stevie. the "vast differences" you make reference to are only obvious to you. no doubt you could write a 1000 words on the minute and subtle differences between a charva from the south and one from the tyne. but to use your own yard stick, any other 'normal' person not from england wouldn't be able to tell a difference, they'd both be english. period.

[Howmanheyman 33282]

Certain it was cunington, mind. You used to look around these grounds and you'd see their faces and necks all craned towards the Toon end. One game there's one man and his dog in the away end, next week there's 5,000 Geordies well served from sitting in vans swigging their slabs of cans.

Edited July 6, 2011 by Howmanheyman

[McFaul 35]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts.

 

 

Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs?

 

although i do know that we can't really put an exact finger on what it is, everyone here seems to think its about being polite and "nice" but i've met lots of fellow canadians that are utter c*nts so that is out the window, others would say it's the hockey playing/watching beer swilling stereotype, which is total bullshit

i know lots of canadians that only watch one or two hockey games a year and thats only if its a national team game or the last canadian team left in the playoffs.

i think that the lack of a concrete national identity is the fact that the country itself is so massive and physically diverse that the people are as well. you make a huge deal about the regional differences in england, but geographically speaking you all live relatively close to each other.

so there you go, while i can't say exactly what being canadian IS, i can say what it isn't, we ain't amuuuriken.

I know but because we're a proper country, i.e. one with thousands of years of culture and history, you can go 50 miles here and the accent and culture is more different than if you go 3000 miles in Canada or USA.

 

....you do make me laugh stevie. the "vast differences" you make reference to are only obvious to you. no doubt you could write a 1000 words on the minute and subtle differences between a charva from the south and one from the tyne. but to use your own yard stick, any other 'normal' person not from england wouldn't be able to tell a difference, they'd both be english. period.

What a load of wank. There a regional variations which are more like country difference within this country, but being ignorant you wouldn't know that. Aussies and Yanks always presume am Iirish.

[StevenL 0]

So do most people with the Superbowl . And to your point about speed, I can't imagine faster than any sprinter. But Devin Hester (NFL Player) can do the 100m sprint in 10 seconds, thats faster than any white man ever

 

Wrong. Christophe Lemaitre will have something to say about that. Yeah, okay there are fast people in American Football, there are fast people in every sport. Bryan Habana clocked 100m in 10.4 and he's a fucking unit, built for upper body strength. And he's not even the fastest South African winger, Tonderai Chavhanga can do it in 10.2.

 

I don't know enough English people with the physical strength to do it

 

That's your stupidest comment yet. Aren't physical enough for what? You wrap yourself in cotton wool before you go out to play, and get one hit every 5 - 10 minutes. Granted you're explosive pace and fitness is better, but endurance wise rugby will win everytime.

 

And then you bang on about viewing figures. Here you go: http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pre...id=2022301.html

 

Because I'm nice, I'll break it down for you.

 

Backing up the record attendance figures was massive interest from international broadcasters. In total 119 international broadcasters televised the action across 202 TV territories with a potential cumulative reach of over 4.2 billion (up 800 million on RWC 2003). Live coverage also increased dramatically on 2003 levels from 5,500 hours to over 8,500 broadcast hours (up 3,000 hours).

 

It was not just in the major Rugby markets where broadcast coverage increased. Television coverage doubled in Spain, Italy, Portugal and across Asia, while enhanced levels of coverage were also gained in the emerging Rugby markets of Russia, India, Canada and the USA, highlighting Rugby’s growing global appeal.

Edited July 6, 2011 by StevenL

[tooner 243]

As much as I love America, I have to agree that a lot of American's are very insular and deluded about the wider world

And the same with Britain. Someone in my COLLEGE class thought Scotland was on a different island to England!

More true of Americans though. Nothing against them either but most of them have never been abroad even. To pretend otherwise is as bad as saying they're all cunts.

 

 

Tooner you know you claim there's a Canadian identity. Can you explain how your accent differs from theirs?

 

although i do know that we can't really put an exact finger on what it is, everyone here seems to think its about being polite and "nice" but i've met lots of fellow canadians that are utter c*nts so that is out the window, others would say it's the hockey playing/watching beer swilling stereotype, which is total bullshit

i know lots of canadians that only watch one or two hockey games a year and thats only if its a national team game or the last canadian team left in the playoffs.

i think that the lack of a concrete national identity is the fact that the country itself is so massive and physically diverse that the people are as well. you make a huge deal about the regional differences in england, but geographically speaking you all live relatively close to each other.

so there you go, while i can't say exactly what being canadian IS, i can say what it isn't, we ain't amuuuriken.

I know but because we're a proper country, i.e. one with thousands of years of culture and history, you can go 50 miles here and the accent and culture is more different than if you go 3000 miles in Canada or USA.

 

....you do make me laugh stevie. the "vast differences" you make reference to are only obvious to you. no doubt you could write a 1000 words on the minute and subtle differences between a charva from the south and one from the tyne. but to use your own yard stick, any other 'normal' person not from england wouldn't be able to tell a difference, they'd both be english. period.

What a load of wank. There a regional variations which are more like country difference within this country, but being ignorant you wouldn't know that. Aussies and Yanks always presume am Iirish.

 

 

just what i was thinking...

[CleeToonFan 1]

So do most people with the Superbowl . And to your point about speed, I can't imagine faster than any sprinter. But Devin Hester (NFL Player) can do the 100m sprint in 10 seconds, thats faster than any white man ever

 

Wrong. Christophe Lemaitre will have something to say about that. Yeah, okay there are fast people in American Football, there are fast people in every sport. Bryan Habana clocked 100m in 10.4 and he's a fucking unit, built for upper body strength. And he's not even the fastest South African winger, Tonderai Chavhanga can do it in 10.2.

 

I don't know enough English people with the physical strength to do it

 

That's your stupidest comment yet. Aren't physical enough for what? You wrap yourself in cotton wool before you go out to play, and get one hit every 5 - 10 minutes. Granted you're explosive pace and fitness is better, but endurance wise rugby will win everytime.

 

And then you bang on about viewing figures. Here you go: http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pre...id=2022301.html

 

Because I'm nice, I'll break it down for you.

 

Backing up the record attendance figures was massive interest from international broadcasters. In total 119 international broadcasters televised the action across 202 TV territories with a potential cumulative reach of over 4.2 billion (up 800 million on RWC 2003). Live coverage also increased dramatically on 2003 levels from 5,500 hours to over 8,500 broadcast hours (up 3,000 hours).

 

It was not just in the major Rugby markets where broadcast coverage increased. Television coverage doubled in Spain, Italy, Portugal and across Asia, while enhanced levels of coverage were also gained in the emerging Rugby markets of Russia, India, Canada and the USA, highlighting Rugby’s growing global appeal.

I already said about specialists needed in American Football. Those hits you get are so bad, I've played rugby and the hits are always same place, safe enough because the rules don't allow anywhere else (no argument there its only safety). In American Football you can hit ANYWHERE, but you have helmets to protect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dORIEVuWlLI...feature=related

That's high school level, imagine that without a helmet. The point is, most rugby players aren't strong enough to be a guard/defensive lineman etc because that's pure strength. And most wingers aren't fast enough (you named a couple that would be nearly as fast as the fastest NFL wide recievers) to be wide receivers. That said, i'm sure most wide receivers couldn't play rugby at a professional level and most defensive linemen couldn't be a rugby player either. Rugby players (on average) are sort of jack of all trades, you need to be strong AND quick. However if you're not too strong you can make up in pace and vice versa. 90% of wide receivers however are faster than 90% of wingers, and the strongest American Footballers are (in my opinion) stronger than the strongest rugby players. But it's not true to say "the helmets" mean it's for fags or whatever, because those helmets are the only thing that can stop some deadly challenges. Rules are tehre for a reason, and in no sport can you tackle where you want without protection, it'd be like saying shinpads just make football "gay".

[The Fish 10876]

Trouble is, CTF, American Football will forever lose every argument, because the appendage mentioned in it's name is not used enough to warrant pride of place in it's name.

 

It's a stupid game of British Bulldogs where Health and Safety and an ill-shaped ball have got in the way of a perfectly reasonable playground past-time

[Kid Dynamite 7034]

Rugby league players are easily harder than NFL players like. States of origin was on yesterday, awesome event

[CleeToonFan 1]

Trouble is, CTF, American Football will forever lose every argument, because the appendage mentioned in it's name is not used enough to warrant pride of place in it's name.

 

It's a stupid game of British Bulldogs where Health and Safety and an ill-shaped ball have got in the way of a perfectly reasonable playground past-time

Maybe, but most arguments i've had with rugby fans irl i've won, although I never really find enough to argue with, and usually they're too tongue in cheek to count but still. I dunno, I think the NFL is similar to the Premier League in the way "Amazing moments" happen, and that's what makes a sport for me. It doesn't help that rugby domestic games are barely anything, same with cricket, which I love. Last minute plays to reach the play-offs and the such in front of 60 thousand screaming fans is something that only the big leagues can reach maybe it's a bit of niche, but theres that feeling of belonging you don't get in most sports (and the tailgating looks ace!). I hope I can get to Minneapolis to see the Vikings next year, because I think it'll just be an amazing experience. Similar to the way going to New Zealand as a rugby fan this winter will be amazing. With rugby (and cricket) the only real atmospheres are at international level, and you lose out on the banter of it all. How many rugby fans have you heard arguing over intricate details like football fans do? In America NFL (and NCAA, the college level, where 100k fans are the norm in some stadiums :|) are like that, and the rest of the sports are like what rugby and cricket are, people care, but they're all just a secondary choice come "Football" season. I guess it helps that my sleeping patterns fucked and i'm usually up when the games are on like! I dunno, but once you get into it it's truely amazing to watch

 

Oh and by the way, at first the Point after touchdown (the kick) was worth the most points, hence the football name. Still no excuse to not change it like, and Americans calling football "futbol" pisses me off more than soccer ever will

Or as most reactions to my post will go... TLDR

[CleeToonFan 1]

NBA lockout might finally be ended today, greedy bastards I have no sympathy with either sides! Apparently they might get the entire 82-game season if the talks end this week though!

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

NFL players are on a different level to rugby league players in terms of athleticism. And in a fight, the NFL would win easily because most white english guys get scared in fights, especially against athletic black men. It's just a matter of perception, Russians are the hardest nation atm: it's no surprise that the Heavyweight champions are from Eastern Europe.

 

Just watch this:

 

 

Even though the black men are outnumbered 3:2 they obliterate the wiggas

[tooner 243]

OUCH! @1:03