harrynufc 0 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Ok I've read the entire thread about us signing marveaux and was bored so i decided to read some liverpool forums (at the time when they thought marveaux was coming to mersyside) to find out more about the player. However, after reading the threads from a few different forums, i came back wanting to raise another issue; an issue of attitude and mindset. It was shocking to see the different mentality both sets of supporters showed with the same news of signing the same player, for the same price and having the same background on the player. As a whole most liverpool fans were only happy to accept the deal if he is a back up player, and helps with the depth of the squad. Virtually all of them still wanted a proven winger to be signed on top of the marveaux signing. The logic behind this was that he is a) injury prone, b ) he plays in a poor league and c) teams like chesea/man utd lost interest quite a while ago for a reason (hes on the 'wane' if you like). On the contrary many posters on here seem quite optimistic about this signing. Already addig him to team formations for next season, talking about how we're finally spending some of that 35 million on wages for quallity players. Basically, theres an obvious difference in the feel/response between the boards of the two teams. So why the stark difference you may ask? Well, it could be a number of things 1) Does it all come down to liverpool having higher aspirations, aiming for champions league etc or is it more than that? 2) Is it because their recent history with french players has been very poor so theyre vigilant on signing any more whereas we've brought in some good french players? 3) Is it because FMA and Llambias (with the help of certain posters) have built up such a melaoncholy vibe around the place that we now have a lower threshold to show contentment/joy? Would we have shown a less optimistic response to signing a player of a similar calibre 10 years ago. 4) Or is it because ive been chronically exposed to LeazesMags' posts that im now begining to take a more bleak outlook to everything. Thoughts? I would have put this under the marveaux thread but i think its bigger than that. Its not just liverpool that you can make the comparison to, its other teams also. PS: Many scousers kept questioning the success rate of free transfers. How many free transfers over the last few seasons have been shown to be quality players in the premiership (in terms of percentage). Point to ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Fuck me sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 It's because this site has great posters like CT and Deano who spunk themselves every time we sell our captain and replace him with johnny-foreigner paraplegic types who we'll be lucky to get 3 games out of in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Hi, I'm deano. I don't know about you but I'm really excited for the new season, thanks to our new signings we will have a really balanced side that is attacking to watch. Here is my starting 11: -------------------------Harper ------------------Coloccini---NEW-(pay as you play) Barnetta------------Tiote-----------Clichy-(pay as you play) Jonas-------Marveaux-----------Ben Arfa---------N'Zogbia -----------------Ba I think wqe can really be exciting with this team and aim for a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty 4 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Pay as you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 A no brainer this one. Of course 10 years ago we had higher standards and of course the last 4 years of MA has lowered expectations. We've only just fought back from relegation and the most anyone was praying for last season was survival. That's a quite different mindset and set of circumstances to a Liverpool fan. All that matters to most on here is whether we start next season stronger than last. That we won't know til August for definite but I still think that apart from the hard core "haters" most fans are quite optimistic by the new incomings and the speed with which we are attacking this window. And rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46163 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 This is only CT's second summer transfer window as a Newcastle fan, so you can forgive him the excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14020 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22189 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 A no brainer this one. Of course 10 years ago we had higher standards and of course the last 4 years of MA has lowered expectations. We've only just fought back from relegation and the most anyone was praying for last season was survival. That's a quite different mindset and set of circumstances to a Liverpool fan. All that matters to most on here is whether we start next season stronger than last. That we won't know til August for definite but I still think that apart from the hard core "haters" most fans are quite optimistic by the new incomings and the speed with which we are attacking this window. And rightly so. I don't detect that much optimism when you and tiote nutz aren't posting. Most of us are cynical about transfers, given ashley's awful track record. While it's encouraging that we're doing business early in the window, most of us won't get too carried away until the window's shut. Until then, there's always a chance he'll sell more senior players without getting in adequate replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 A no brainer this one. Of course 10 years ago we had higher standards and of course the last 4 years of MA has lowered expectations. We've only just fought back from relegation and the most anyone was praying for last season was survival. That's a quite different mindset and set of circumstances to a Liverpool fan. All that matters to most on here is whether we start next season stronger than last. That we won't know til August for definite but I still think that apart from the hard core "haters" most fans are quite optimistic by the new incomings and the speed with which we are attacking this window. And rightly so. I don't detect that much optimism when you and tiote nutz aren't posting. Most of us are cynical about transfers, given ashley's awful track record. While it's encouraging that we're doing business early in the window, most of us won't get too carried away until the window's shut. Until then, there's always a chance he'll sell more senior players without getting in adequate replacements. Strange, I said all that about seeing where we are when the windo closes in my post as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrynufc 0 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 A no brainer this one. Of course 10 years ago we had higher standards and of course the last 4 years of MA has lowered expectations. We've only just fought back from relegation and the most anyone was praying for last season was survival. That's a quite different mindset and set of circumstances to a Liverpool fan. All that matters to most on here is whether we start next season stronger than last. That we won't know til August for definite but I still think that apart from the hard core "haters" most fans are quite optimistic by the new incomings and the speed with which we are attacking this window. And rightly so. Are we though? Losing the best striker at the club to liverpool, losing our captain to untested 'johnny-foreigner paraplegic types', potentially losing Enrique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The real bottom line Harry is that we won't know until the end of the season. We can therefore have to make a guess when the window closes based on how we feel about the changes. The optimists will get carried away, the negatives will predict doom by Christmas and the truth will be somewhere in-between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrynufc 0 Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 The real bottom line Harry is that we won't know until the end of the season. We can therefore have to make a guess when the window closes based on how we feel about the changes. The optimists will get carried away, the negatives will predict doom by Christmas and the truth will be somewhere in-between. In that case CT, im jumping on your bandwagon, go team positive!! Just make sure youre there to save your followers from the wrath of those who predicted doom, if that is the case next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The real bottom line Harry is that we won't know until the end of the season. We can therefore have to make a guess when the window closes based on how we feel about the changes. The optimists will get carried away, the negatives will predict doom by Christmas and the truth will be somewhere in-between. In that case CT, im jumping on your bandwagon, go team positive!! Just make sure youre there to save your followers from the wrath of those who predicted doom, if that is the case next season. A wise move Harry, I have a feeling we will be getting very full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 The real bottom line Harry is that we won't know until the end of the season. We can therefore have to make a guess when the window closes based on how we feel about the changes. The optimists will get carried away, the negatives will predict doom by Christmas and the truth will be somewhere in-between. In that case CT, im jumping on your bandwagon, go team positive!! Just make sure youre there to save your followers from the wrath of those who predicted doom, if that is the case next season. A wise move Harry, I have a feeling we will be getting very full. Fucking hell, man! Did you do that yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hi, I'm deano. I don't know about you but I'm really excited for the new season, thanks to our new signings we will have a really balanced side that is attacking to watch. Here is my starting 11: -------------------------Harper ------------------Coloccini---NEW-(pay as you play) Barnetta------------Tiote-----------Clichy-(pay as you play) Jonas-------Marveaux-----------Ben Arfa---------N'Zogbia -----------------Ba I think wqe can really be exciting with this team and aim for a win You actually are a complete cock. Not even funny neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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