Sylvain Marveaux

[acrossthepond 878]

So, no answer to anything I said, once again.

 

I'll be as clear as possible.

 

We scored loads of goals last season. Jonas was playing almost every game during that season. Somehow, his shitness did not impair us from scoring that many goals.

 

It is now this season. We have had trouble scoring in our first four games so far this season, in which Jonas has played 3/4 games. I'm assuming that he has remained at the same level of 'shitness' as last season. The attacking players in our starting XI for this season are very different compared to the attacking players in our starting XI from last season. In fact, they are significantly worse. Cabaye is probably going to be better than Nolan, but Obertan is worse than Barton, R. Taylor is worse than Enrique, Best/Lovenkrands/Ba are worse than Carroll, and Simpson is the same.

 

Now, moron, do you think it is Jonas who is responsible for our weaker attack this season, or the fact that we sold our good attacking players?

 

I would start HBA over Jonas, but until he's back, Jonas has to remain in the team because he is a vital part of our attack, no matter what someone as hopelessly contrary, obsessed and totally wrong as yourself thinks.

 

EDIT: Two smileys in a one-line post, too. I think you fancy yourself as some kind of airy, dismissive expert who is able to dismiss plebs like me with a witty quip. Laughable.

Edited August 29, 2011 by acrossthepond

[Deano 0]

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

[Tom 14020]

I think Muntari would bring that erection right down like a nude Margaret Thatcher on a cold winters day.

[manc-mag 1]

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

In the interests of balance, how would you feel if we got none of the above?

[2bias 3]

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

Not being funny mate but you have nothing to base that off. The current set up in midfield is working well so why put someone in who has only one "competitive" match to his name against a league 1 club.

[Deano 0]

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

In the interests of balance, how would you feel if we got none of the above?

 

Gutted but not surprised.

 

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

Not being funny mate but you have nothing to base that off. The current set up in midfield is working well so why put someone in who has only one "competitive" match to his name against a league 1 club.

 

Nothing?

 

Marveaux is left footed and best position is LM.

 

Jonas is right footed and would be better on the right.

 

Arent you the kid who used to actually have good banta on msn on matchdays?

[Christmas Tree 4858]

So, no answer to anything I said, once again.

 

I'll be as clear as possible.

 

We scored loads of goals last season. Jonas was playing almost every game during that season. Somehow, his shitness did not impair us from scoring that many goals.

 

It is now this season. We have had trouble scoring in our first four games so far this season, in which Jonas has played 3/4 games. I'm assuming that he has remained at the same level of 'shitness' as last season. The attacking players in our starting XI for this season are very different compared to the attacking players in our starting XI from last season. In fact, they are significantly worse. Cabaye is probably going to be better than Nolan, but Obertan is worse than Barton, R. Taylor is worse than Enrique, Best/Lovenkrands/Ba are worse than Carroll, and Simpson is the same.

 

Now, moron, do you think it is Jonas who is responsible for our weaker attack this season, or the fact that we sold our good attacking players?

 

I would start HBA over Jonas, but until he's back, Jonas has to remain in the team because he is a vital part of our attack, no matter what someone as hopelessly contrary, obsessed and totally wrong as yourself thinks.

 

EDIT: Two smileys in a one-line post, too. I think you fancy yourself as some kind of airy, dismissive expert who is able to dismiss plebs like me with a witty quip. Laughable.

 

If you wernt such an angry man you may be able to work out that I am talking about this season and what we need to do in this team, not what happened last year or who was sold.

 

As it stands, we are not creating chances for the strikers, regardless of how shit they are and thats all that matters.

 

If you have a winger, who for whatever reason is not managing to cross the ball into the box, then its only fair to consider alternatives.

 

IMO Giving Marveaux a start might improve the attacking situation.

 

Its a pretty simple point that doesnt need all the rants tbh.

[Andrew 4882]

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

In the interests of balance, how would you feel if we got none of the above?

 

Gutted but not surprised.

 

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

Not being funny mate but you have nothing to base that off. The current set up in midfield is working well so why put someone in who has only one "competitive" match to his name against a league 1 club.

 

Nothing?

 

Marveaux is left footed and best position is LM.

 

Jonas is right footed and would be better on the right.

 

Arent you the kid who used to actually have good banta on msn on matchdays?

 

yes but Im right footed and my best position is Right back, that doesnt mean I can slot into a PL team based on nothing more than a youtube video of me having a kickabout

[Christmas Tree 4858]

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

I'd stick with Obertan on the right at the minute. He hasnt set the world alight by any means but he does get about getting tackles in and can creates as his run and pass for Ba to set up Best, showed.

[2bias 3]

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

In the interests of balance, how would you feel if we got none of the above?

 

Gutted but not surprised.

 

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

Not being funny mate but you have nothing to base that off. The current set up in midfield is working well so why put someone in who has only one "competitive" match to his name against a league 1 club.

Nothing?

 

Marveaux is left footed and best position is LM.

 

Jonas is right footed and would be better on the right.

 

Arent you the kid who used to actually have good banta on msn on matchdays?

 

As I said I'm not being funny with you. Marveaux hasn't played consistent competitive football for a long time. And my point was the midfield are doing well at the minute and I don't think it would be wise to change it.

Also i'm not a kid. Can't remember my msn login so I haven't been on there in awhile.

[2bias 3]

Marveaux should be playing on the left and Jonas on the right. Obertan off the bench. Simples.

 

Imagine that with Santon RB and Cissokho LB with a new striker....i'd fuckin cum in my pants.

 

I'd stick with Obertan on the right at the minute. He hasnt set the world alight by any means but he does get about getting tackles in and can creates as his run and pass for Ba to set up Best, showed.

I like the way the club have now labelled Obertan as a forward now

[acrossthepond 878]

'It's a pretty simple point that doesn't need all the rants.' More of the ad hom that you try to employ to make it sound like you have a clue and I'm the one who's unreasonable. The 'pretty simple point' is that Jonas is our best winger on current evidence and needs to be starting every game. If you want to play Marveaux over Obertan and see how that goes, I would be very happy with that plan, but I just demonstrated how Jonas is obviously not the one responsible for our problems scoring goals and you're talking about someone who you've seen play exactly once and who you know nothing about, but who should replace our international winger who's been part of the first XI for going on 4 years.

 

This is the same as when you tried to say Ferguson was fit to replace Jonas, then tried to say LuaLua was fit to replace Jonas. Meanwhile, one can't get a game over Jonas OR Ryan Taylor, and the other is on loan in the Championship. You didn't actually know how good or not those players were, because you'd never seen them, but you just don't like Jonas for irrational and wrong reasons (because, not to harp on this point too much, you know nothing about football) and so you want him out of the team.

 

Jonas jonas jonas. Enrique hasn't been great? It's Jonas's fault, not that his head's been turned by a more ambitious club than ours. We can't score? It's Jonas's fault, not that our strikers are awful and Barton and Nolan are gone. It's raining? Well, Jesus Christ, it must be Jonas's fault.

 

You don't have any idea what you're talking about, as per usual, and your anti-Jonas crusade is probably the thing that most clearly indicates how little you really understand about this game. So why don't you leave discussing it to people who have some inkling and stick to talking about cooking and gardening? Thanks.

[snakehips 0]

'It's a pretty simple point that doesn't need all the rants.' More of the ad hom that you try to employ to make it sound like you have a clue and I'm the one who's unreasonable. The 'pretty simple point' is that Jonas is our best winger on current evidence and needs to be starting every game. If you want to play Marveaux over Obertan and see how that goes, I would be very happy with that plan, but I just demonstrated how Jonas is obviously not the one responsible for our problems scoring goals and you're talking about someone who you've seen play exactly once and who you know nothing about, but who should replace our international winger who's been part of the first XI for going on 4 years.

 

This is the same as when you tried to say Ferguson was fit to replace Jonas, then tried to say LuaLua was fit to replace Jonas. Meanwhile, one can't get a game over Jonas OR Ryan Taylor, and the other is on loan in the Championship. You didn't actually know how good or not those players were, because you'd never seen them, but you just don't like Jonas for irrational and wrong reasons (because, not to harp on this point too much, you know nothing about football) and so you want him out of the team.

 

Jonas jonas jonas. Enrique hasn't been great? It's Jonas's fault, not that his head's been turned by a more ambitious club than ours. We can't score? It's Jonas's fault, not that our strikers are awful and Barton and Nolan are gone. It's raining? Well, Jesus Christ, it must be Jonas's fault.

 

You don't have any idea what you're talking about, as per usual, and your anti-Jonas crusade is probably the thing that most clearly indicates how little you really understand about this game. So why don't you leave discussing it to people who have some inkling and stick to talking about cooking and gardening? Thanks.

 

Jings, ATP, had a knock back from your lass or summat?? Settle, man, settle

[Christmas Tree 4858]

'It's a pretty simple point that doesn't need all the rants.' More of the ad hom that you try to employ to make it sound like you have a clue and I'm the one who's unreasonable. The 'pretty simple point' is that Jonas is our best winger on current evidence and needs to be starting every game. If you want to play Marveaux over Obertan and see how that goes, I would be very happy with that plan, but I just demonstrated how Jonas is obviously not the one responsible for our problems scoring goals and you're talking about someone who you've seen play exactly once and who you know nothing about, but who should replace our international winger who's been part of the first XI for going on 4 years.

 

This is the same as when you tried to say Ferguson was fit to replace Jonas, then tried to say LuaLua was fit to replace Jonas. Meanwhile, one can't get a game over Jonas OR Ryan Taylor, and the other is on loan in the Championship. You didn't actually know how good or not those players were, because you'd never seen them, but you just don't like Jonas for irrational and wrong reasons (because, not to harp on this point too much, you know nothing about football) and so you want him out of the team.

 

Jonas jonas jonas. Enrique hasn't been great? It's Jonas's fault, not that his head's been turned by a more ambitious club than ours. We can't score? It's Jonas's fault, not that our strikers are awful and Barton and Nolan are gone. It's raining? Well, Jesus Christ, it must be Jonas's fault.

 

You don't have any idea what you're talking about, as per usual, and your anti-Jonas crusade is probably the thing that most clearly indicates how little you really understand about this game. So why don't you leave discussing it to people who have some inkling and stick to talking about cooking and gardening? Thanks.

 

Honestly I dont know why you bother. You clearly have no interest in discussing football and are just here to release pent up frustration.

 

I'll try one last time.

 

Do you understand fans of the same team can have different opinions?

 

Do you understand that genuine Newcastle fans do exist who dont like Jonas?

 

Do you understand that 30 passes and none into the box from a winger is an issue?

 

Do you understand that Marveaux played a blinder, set up goals and scored for the reserves? (And yes I know its just reserves)

 

Do you undesrtand that against Scunthorpe in an otherwise poor performance, he did well in Jonas's position?

 

Do you realise that his record until last year was excellent?

 

Do you realise he was on the verge of signing for Liverpool?

 

 

If you understand all or even some of the above, then you may comprehend that it is not UNREASOABLE for some fans to call for him to play instead of Jonas.

 

You may also on reflection realise that such a view doesnt quite justify your ranty posts or name calling and that you are only heading for a coronary.

[acrossthepond 878]

Not opening that last post, you have no clue what you're talking about and you aren't even trying to refute anything I said, so I'm done.

[LoveTheBobby 1]

ATP living up to his 'crazy bald nutter' tag there

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Wouldn't you be angry if god wouldn't let you have a wank? Eternal damnation for that one.

[LoveTheBobby 1]

think you're right , maybe needs to clear his tubes out .

[acrossthepond 878]

think you're right , maybe needs to clear his tubes out .

 

Just one day left....

[LoveTheBobby 1]

[Ayatollah Hermione 14094]

The French Wayne Routledge tbh, let's not kid ourselves.

[ToonFanatic 0]

Liverpool can have him if they want.....

 

I am a keen ligue 1 follower, he is a decent player. Nothing else. Mind you, I've hardly seen him play due to his woeful injury record. Read enough about him. Oh well, still support the lad.

[2bias 3]

The French Wayne Routledge tbh, let's not kid ourselves.

Lol bloody hell

[Gejon 2]

Wtf

[Aeris 0]

I wonder if he will be the new Laurent Robert. I certainly miss those early 2000's.