Deano 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) ...Nolan, Barton, Jonas and Enrique are sold. Presuming we get figures of around 4mil for Nolan, 4mil for Barton, 8mil for Enrique and 8mil for Jonas. Aye the team spirit that was forged may well be dispanded but in terms of qualit on the pitch who realistically would you be happy with that we got in as replacements? Enrique: M'Bengue 6mil OR Warnock 3mil to go into the 1st team and Neil Taylor as back up 1mil Barton: Cabaye 4.5mil Nolan: Gardner 5mil Jonas: N'Zogbia 10mil That there is pretty much replacing each for the same amount as we'd get for all of them. Leaving the 35mil to still be spent on ADDITIONS...STx2 and a RW. Edited June 15, 2011 by Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22189 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 let's just say....if i flap my arms, will i fly to the moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) So rather than adding to the squad and giving us depth we're going to still have squad of the same size? Weak and pissy, couple of injuries and we're fucked... again... oh, and no team spirit to help out this time either. Great, because let's face it, that £35m still won't get spent - additions my eye. Edited June 15, 2011 by Armchair Pundit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 So rather than adding to the squad and giving us depth we're going to still have squad of the same size? Weak and pissy, couple of injuries and we're fucked... again... oh, and no team spirit to help out this time either. Great, because let's face it, that £35m still won't get spent - additions my eye. Cant you read? Man and i had you down as the intelligent type. Replace with the money we'd receive from outgoings and ADD to the squad with the 35mil. Simples. Alex really has been busy on you lot like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) ...Nolan, Barton, Jonas and Enrique are sold. Presuming we get figures of around 4mil for Nolan, 4mil for Barton, 8mil for Enrique and 8mil for Jonas. Aye the team spirit that was forged may well be dispanded but in terms of qualit on the pitch who realistically would you be happy with that we got in as replacements? Enrique: M'Bengue 6mil OR Warnock 3mil to go into the 1st team and Neil Taylor as back up 1mil Barton: Cabaye 4.5mil Nolan: Gardner 5mil Jonas: N'Zogbia 10mil That there is pretty much replacing each for the same amount as we'd get for all of them. Leaving the 35mil to still be spent on ADDITIONS...STx2 and a RW. Theres been a lot of talk of this team spirit, but has anyone actually been in amongst it to say it's been there? I've seen Barton interviewed after a few matches saying it's there, but is that just with the scouse brotherhood? I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of his mouth tbh. Obviously touting for a move himself now by the tweet and opening his mouth with sob stories about wanting to win a trophy with the club etc since Nolan is away. Edited June 15, 2011 by @yourservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 So rather than adding to the squad and giving us depth we're going to still have squad of the same size? Weak and pissy, couple of injuries and we're fucked... again... oh, and no team spirit to help out this time either. Great, because let's face it, that £35m still won't get spent - additions my eye. Cant you read? Man and i had you down as the intelligent type. Replace with the money we'd receive from outgoings and ADD to the squad with the 35mil. Simples. Alex really has been busy on you lot like. Fucking hell you're brainwashed! Forgive me, I'm not going to trawl through the threads but I'm pretty certain that it was universally agreed that we needed to expand the size of the squad? A good chunk of the £35m is gone - It signed Ben Arfa on a permanent deal and also extended Tiote's contract. I mention Tiote deliberately as he's gone on record to say how much playing with Nolan has improved his game. Squad morale has been shot to shit on the grounds of how this has been handled - Barton's comments on Twitter should highlight that plain and simple. There's no way on god's green earth the likes of Enrique & Jonas will want to stay now that the club have signalled their intent. And who, that is anything decent, is going to want to join this circus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I don't think Jonas would mind staying, he seems like a really good pro, and imo is a great player to have as a squad member. He is rarely injured; he often relieves pressure in games with his runs; he usually puts in a good shift and contributes defensively at times; he can play in a few different positions if required. He gets grief because of his lack of end product, but if he was a superb crosser and striker of the ball he'd be with a CL team. He made a valuable contribution in light of Ben Arfa's injury last season imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Don't try and twist this TN. This summer should have been about adding to the squad that did surprisingly well for us overall last season. Instead we look to be ripping out the spine and replacing them, using valuable resources, time and effort in the process. All of those players you list are no better than those they'd replace, aside from N'Zogbia. The image of the club is damaged by stuff like this and it sends out an awful message to potential new incomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Don't try and twist this TN. This summer should have been about adding to the squad that did surprisingly well for us overall last season. Instead we look to be ripping out the spine and replacing them, using valuable resources, time and effort in the process. All of those players you list are no better than those they'd replace, aside from N'Zogbia. The image of the club is damaged by stuff like this and it sends out an awful message to potential new incomings. Fuck sake. Nolan and Barton are 29. If we can bring in younger players of good quality on cheaper wages then why not? These things happen and i just dont see how whinging and crying is going to make any fuckin difference at all. Just accept it a look at ways we can still improve. Personally i think Jonas will stay. Barton could follow suit to West Ham and Jose will move abroad. Cabaye will be our new creative force through the middle (i hope) Guthrie and Gosling will move into Nolans squad place if we dont bring in someone like Gardner and we would need a quality left back as replacement for Enrique...Warnock would to short term but i'd much rather we got M'Bengue. A match day 18 of... ---Krul--- Simpson---S.Taylor---Coloccini---M'Bengue ---Cabaye---Tiote--- Jonas---------Ben Arfa---------N'Zogbia ---Erdinc--- Subs: Harper, R.Taylor, Williamson, N.Taylor, Gosling, Gardner and Ba ...Would be an improvement in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 IF being the operative word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 IF being the operative word. Ok so we are going to sell Nolan, Barton, Jose and Jonas and not bother bringing anyone in at all.......Better? Fuck off man seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Do football players suddenly become quadriplegics between the ages of 29 and 30? What the fuck is wrong with having a few experienced players amongst what is already a young squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Do football players suddenly become quadriplegics between the ages of 29 and 30? What the fuck is wrong with having a few experienced players amongst what is already a young squad? you and your wacky ideas! Everyone knows thew way to a successful Premiership campaign is to have little experience of the league or even the country. A healthy mix of young homesick foreigners and Championship nobodies never did Sir Alex or Arsene any harm did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33944 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I tell you what it is, People like Deno/tiotenutz/whatever would have been twatted for coming out like shite like this at the match when I was younger. That, really is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) That's wrong though: as annoying as he is, I cannot support violence against people, especially the mentally handicapped. Edited June 15, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Honestly Deano you are wasting your time with most of these negative normans on here. They avoid all memories of Barton and Nolan knocking back extended deals in January. They avoid the types of players who we are currently trying to bring in, 80 days before the window closes. They avoid looking at the depth of the midfielders already on the books and linked with. They avoid the fact that Barton has cooked his own goose at talk ins and in the press. And they avoid the fact that Enrique has wanted champions league football for some time now. They avoid all of this, rant and rave, mention nothing of the potential of the footballers Graham Carr may well have in the Gosforrth Park as we speak..... Yet come August when the younger fitter better team is raring to go, they will be frothing with excitement. (Apart from the usual suspects who will have moved on to fortelling of the doom and horrors awaiting us at Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 with nolan out is the others jonas barton and enrique are they sold we should have a thread with players confirmed sold and bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I've never done this, but in light of his abysmal Twitter patter: You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Christmas Tree. · View this post · Un-ignore Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33944 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 That's wrong though: as annoying as he is, I cannot support violence against people, especially the mentally handicapped. I'm not condoning violence against anyone, just stating that his motives would've been scrutinised a little forcefully once upon a time. More fucking bothered with mobile phones and fantasy football than their own fucking eyes. Some on this MB are as much NUFC fans as I am a fan of take bastard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Honestly Deano you are wasting your time with most of these negative normans on here. They avoid all memories of Barton and Nolan knocking back extended deals in January. according to the club, meanwhile according to the players, agents, press and co they were not good or even fair deals. They were designed to piss off players the club didnt want and allow mongs on message boards to wank themselves silly at the "good business" They avoid the types of players who we are currently trying to bring in, 80 days before the window closes. show me a proven goalscorer to replace the two we've now lost and maybe I'll start to think differently. They avoid looking at the depth of the midfielders already on the books and linked with. which poster/twitter account did you nick that one from? You wouldnt know a depth of midfield if it came with a full statistical breakdown attached. As for linked with, wooohooo maybe we should be waiting until after these "quality links" are signed before we sell our existing midfield players. They avoid the fact that Barton has cooked his own goose at talk ins and in the press. unlike you of course who ignore the fact that every time Dekka opens his gob hes proven to be a lying little waste of oxygen And they avoid the fact that Enrique has wanted champions league football for some time now. And what do the good clubs do when they have players like that? yes, they prove to them that they have the ambition and plans to match the players needs. Thats what proper football clubs do, we are no better than Wigan with Whelans "any player that wants to leave I will help, we understand that we're shit and they want proper clubs". Saying that though, why would Enrique go to Liverpool if he wants CL? They avoid all of this, rant and rave, mention nothing of the potential of the footballers Graham Carr may well have in the Gosforrth Park as we speak..... you can have all the potential in the world, it doesnt prove a thing. Potential talent needs to feed off quality experience, as said elsewhere Tiote has waxed lyrically about the effect Nolan has had on him, no doubt hes not alone. The new crop of players wont get that. For every Tiote we sign theres two James Perch's and a Xisco. Yet come August when the younger fitter better team is raring to go, they will be frothing with excitement. (Apart from the usual suspects who will have moved on to fortelling of the doom and horrors awaiting us at Christmas. Only time will tell dipshit only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 It's amazing how some dipshits on here have the IQ to turn a PC/Phone/Laptop to write the shit they're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 That's wrong though: as annoying as he is, I cannot support violence against people, especially the mentally handicapped. I'm not condoning violence against anyone, just stating that his motives would've been scrutinised a little forcefully once upon a time. More fucking bothered with mobile phones and fantasy football than their own fucking eyes. Some on this MB are as much NUFC fans as I am a fan of take bastard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Honestly Deano you are wasting your time with most of these negative normans on here. They avoid all memories of Barton and Nolan knocking back extended deals in January. according to the club, meanwhile according to the players, agents, press and co they were not good or even fair deals. They were designed to piss off players the club didnt want and allow mongs on message boards to wank themselves silly at the "good business" Really? I think you'll find Nolan has said he did demand 5 years when he knocked us back in January, but now wants us to believe he was only playing hardball. They avoid the types of players who we are currently trying to bring in, 80 days before the window closes. show me a proven goalscorer to replace the two we've now lost and maybe I'll start to think differently. Lets let them complete that task first eh? They avoid looking at the depth of the midfielders already on the books and linked with. which poster/twitter account did you nick that one from? You wouldnt know a depth of midfield if it came with a full statistical breakdown attached. As for linked with, wooohooo maybe we should be waiting until after these "quality links" are signed before we sell our existing midfield players. I think we had Nolans replacement, Cabaye, before we sold Nolan....Isnt that the clever way to do it. They avoid the fact that Barton has cooked his own goose at talk ins and in the press. unlike you of course who ignore the fact that every time Dekka opens his gob hes proven to be a lying little waste of oxygen Which has nothing to do with Barton... And they avoid the fact that Enrique has wanted champions league football for some time now. And what do the good clubs do when they have players like that? yes, they prove to them that they have the ambition and plans to match the players needs. Thats what proper football clubs do, we are no better than Wigan with Whelans "any player that wants to leave I will help, we understand that we're shit and they want proper clubs". Saying that though, why would Enrique go to Liverpool if he wants CL? But we have no ambition to break into the CL any time soon. I think most of us, including Enrique know that. They avoid all of this, rant and rave, mention nothing of the potential of the footballers Graham Carr may well have in the Gosforrth Park as we speak..... you can have all the potential in the world, it doesnt prove a thing. Potential talent needs to feed off quality experience, as said elsewhere Tiote has waxed lyrically about the effect Nolan has had on him, no doubt hes not alone. The new crop of players wont get that. For every Tiote we sign theres two James Perch's and a Xisco. Cant live on yesterday though can you? Pardew wants a fast attacking midfield that doesnt include Nolan. Tiotes game might even improve again with better fitter players around him. Even Alex thinks we saw the best of Nolan last year. Yet come August when the younger fitter better team is raring to go, they will be frothing with excitement. (Apart from the usual suspects who will have moved on to fortelling of the doom and horrors awaiting us at Christmas. Only time will tell dipshit only time will tell. I think I know what you will be coming out with in August. Your getting a bit of a track record for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 ...Nolan, Barton, Jonas and Enrique are sold. Presuming we get figures of around 4mil for Nolan, 4mil for Barton, 8mil for Enrique and 8mil for Jonas. Aye the team spirit that was forged may well be dispanded but in terms of qualit on the pitch who realistically would you be happy with that we got in as replacements? Enrique: M'Bengue 6mil OR Warnock 3mil to go into the 1st team and Neil Taylor as back up 1mil Barton: Cabaye 4.5mil Nolan: Gardner 5mil Jonas: N'Zogbia 10mil That there is pretty much replacing each for the same amount as we'd get for all of them. Leaving the 35mil to still be spent on ADDITIONS...STx2 and a RW. The players I would want are unlikely to come to us, realistic targets could be; Realistically I'd go for; Enrique: van aanholt 6m or Ryan Bertrand 4m Barton: Keep him, it's simply not worth selling and he clearly wants to stay. Nolan: Ireland 4mil Jonas: Bentley or SWP 6m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33944 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 ...Nolan, Barton, Jonas and Enrique are sold. Presuming we get figures of around 4mil for Nolan, 4mil for Barton, 8mil for Enrique and 8mil for Jonas. Aye the team spirit that was forged may well be dispanded but in terms of qualit on the pitch who realistically would you be happy with that we got in as replacements? Enrique: M'Bengue 6mil OR Warnock 3mil to go into the 1st team and Neil Taylor as back up 1mil Barton: Cabaye 4.5mil Nolan: Gardner 5mil Jonas: N'Zogbia 10mil That there is pretty much replacing each for the same amount as we'd get for all of them. Leaving the 35mil to still be spent on ADDITIONS...STx2 and a RW. The players I would want are unlikely to come to us, realistic targets could be; Realistically I'd go for; Enrique: van aanholt 6mReally? £6M? or Ryan Bertrand 4m Barton: Keep him, it's simply not worth selling and he clearly wants to stay. Nolan: Ireland 4milSo spend the Nolan money on a waster who wont get 1/3 of his goals? Jonas: Bentley or SWP 6m Far overpriced for the pair of them, especially Bentley. I'd rather Jonas, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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