Ally 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Does this not represent tapping up? Surely they are having talks without permission from NUFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6787 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Well thats confirmed it as a money-driven move, if he cant agree terms with the Champions League holders. Edited December 31, 2012 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I hope he finds a club that want to pay his wages....or he might stop playing for a move and decide his knee is giving him gyp. I hope he realises that his "advisors" are self serving sycophants, puts the whole lot of them out on the street, renegotiates a contract with Newcastle and goes on to win Footballer of the year. but I'll admit my hopes may be a tad unreasonable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So does he play on Wednesday if nowt happens in the next couple of days? It'll be an awkward one for him if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Does this not represent tapping up? Surely they are having talks without permission from NUFC? There's this release clause you might not have heard about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Can't see him getting a game in January like....or am I a cynic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4858 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So does he play on Wednesday if nowt happens in the next couple of days? It'll be an awkward one for him if he does. Doubt it will be awkward, we all know the win is priority 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17721 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Doubt it will be awkward, we all know the win is priority 1 If he's determined to go protecting that knee of his may be a bigger priority for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 So meeting was unproductive, can't see anyone, maybe QPR apart, now being to meet his wage demands. Doubt he will be in the squad wednesday night tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7190 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The problem now is Ashley won't splash 8-9mil on Remy until he has the Ba cash, and other teams are already sniffing around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 If he is to go, I hope he agrees a deal to Liverpool, scores a hattrick against Everton, breaks down in the warm down session after the game, signs the Liverpool contract, then Doctor reveals it's worse than they feared and is out for the rest of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 There's this release clause you might not have heard about Yes but surely the clause is only activated if a £7.5m bid is made? Unless there is another clause that lets his entourage speak to whoever they like.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I assume a £7.5m bid has been made though. It's personal terms that can't be agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoCo85 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Is he pricing himself outta a move? Only a very attractive offer will take him away it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoCo85 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Is he pricing himself outta a move? Only a very attractive offer will take him away it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Pricing himself out of a move anywhere at the moment, but I think the 'we'll talk to other clubs' line is probably bollocks to force Chelsea's hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I assume a £7.5m bid has been made though. It's personal terms that can't be agreed. George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes To repeat, as of y'day no club had met £7.5m get-out clause, but same happened in summer: Ba touted everywhere without #nufc knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46162 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Well thats confirmed it has a money-driven move, if he cant agree terms with the Champions League holders. When was it ever about anything other than money though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17721 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 5live sports monkey said the same half hour ago......there hasnt been any club who has made an offical offer of £7.5mill to activate the release clause, and in so doing getting the right to speak to the player's agents. Same as the Ferguson thing on Boxing Day....no one in football is punishing either the likes of Chelsea or Ba's agents for this. But then I imagine NUFC would have to make an official complaint, and if you start to try to gain a bit of power back from players' agents in general then theyre very likely not to want to do business with you again. Thats how they keep the power. Cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 When was it ever about anything other than money though? If it was at all about football why would he want to leave a team he can appear in the Europa league for, to go and play in one where he couldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 0 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Pricing himself out of a move anywhere at the moment, but I think the 'we'll talk to other clubs' line is probably bollocks to force Chelsea's hand The trouble is that I'd guess he's worth @ £20 million which leaves @ £12 million to spend on wages over 3 years. After that he'll still only be 30 with a resale value of @ £5/6 million. After what we paid, which was also due to a 'get out' clause, we should be prepared to pay a bit more to keep him, at least until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The £300k fine they got for tapping up Cole was clearly no deterrent. Obviously not gonna be when it's a tiny fraction of the transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The £300k fine they got for tapping up Cole was clearly no deterrent. Obviously not gonna be when it's a tiny fraction of the transfer fee. I wonder, if Ba's representatives contacted Chelsea, does that circumvent the tapping up laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7190 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Unlikely. Talking to players under contract is illegal, whoever speaks first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Unlikely. Talking to players under contract is illegal, whoever speaks first Fair dos One of Ba's representatives is coming up on Sky Sports. One "Barry Silkman"... and if that name doesn't make your skin crawl I know what will. Scumbag Agent Barry Silkman Caught On Tape Wishing Bobby Robson's Cancer Spreads In 2001, Silkman sued Newcastle United over the transfer of Chilean striker Clarence Acuna. "I got f***ed by Newcastle and I ended up taking them to court. I settled for 25 grand when they owed me 100 grand. "I took a player (Acuna) there (Newcastle) on trial. His club wanted $2.5m but I said don't pay it because they have got to sell the player. "He ended up signing for 900 grand and yet they (Newcastle) still f****d me. Bobby Robson was my first manager at Fulham. I'd always kept in contact and I said ‘Bob how could you let them f*** me?' "You know what he said? ‘You don't count. I'm the only one that counts. That's your hard luck." "So you know what I said to him? I said: ‘I have a wife and a young daughter and a f*****g mortgage and you've turned round and said that to me. "I said: ‘See that cancer on your nose? I hope it spreads all over your face and that you live a f*****g long, long, long life because the longer you live the more you will f*****g suffer. "‘There's only one God and he's looking down at us two now and he's saying ‘Whose side am I on?' And let me tell you, Bob, it ain't f*****g yours because I have never f****d anyone in my life. F*** knows how many people you have f****d', and I walked out.'" Silkman negotiated with then Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd over his commission on the Acuna deal. "Freddy Shepherd came on the phone to me and went over the deal with me. I said: ‘Do I get it in writing?' and he said, ‘Yes, you will have it in writing.' "When I went to the lawyer... I had it all on tape. I sent the tape to a journalist, 17 minutes and 18 seconds of him (Shepherd) saying to me: ‘I will never do you up, I will always look after you, I'm not that type of person. If we are going to sign the player I promise you, I guarantee you you will get paid.' "I had the conversation on the Saturday morning and they signed him (Acuna) on the Tuesday. I took him there on trial, I paid for everything but they (Newcastle) never even offered me the money I had laid out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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